2022-23 - Arsenal Players on Loan

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by CarlosKaiser, Sep 2, 2022.

  1. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    Thought it might be useful to track Arsenal players on loan, outside of the Other Teams, U18/U21 or the Transfer thread. By my count, Arsenal have 24 total players on loan which I feel like is more than the club have ever had and perhaps represent a different approach to development. I've listed them below and separated by league tier, let me know if I missed anyone.

    First team players:
    Ainsley Maitland-Niles - Southampton (EPL)
    Nicolas Pepe - Nice (Ligue 1)
    Nuno Tavares - Marseille (Ligue 1)
    Pablo Mari - Monza (Serie A)
    Runar Alex Runarsson - Alanyspor (Turkish Super Lig)

    Auston Trusty - Birmingham (Championship)

    Youth players:
    Florian Balogun - Stade Reims (Ligue 1)
    Omar Rekik - Sparta Rotterdam (Eredivisie)
    Mika Biereth - Waalwijk (Eredivisie)
    Ryan Alebiosu - Kilmarnock (Scottish Premiership)

    Charlie Patino - Blackpool (Championship)
    Brooke Norton-Cuffy - Rotherham (Championship)
    Harry Clarke - Stoke City (Championship)
    Salah-Eddine Oulad M'Hand - Hull (Championship)
    Miguel Azeez - Ibiza (La Liga 2)
    Marcelo Flores - Real Oviedo (La Liga 2)
    Nikolaj Moller - Den Bosche (Dutch Eerste Divisie)
    Alex Kirk - Ayr United (Scottish Championship)

    Tyreece John-Jules - Ipswich (League One)

    Mazeed Ogungbo - Crawley Town (League Two)
    Arthur Okonkwo - Crewe (League Two)

    Tom Smith - Bromley (National League)
    Tim Akinola - Chesterfield (National League)

    Ovie Ejeheri - Chelmsford (National League South)
     
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  2. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    John jules is apparently doing well and we have balo and nuno killing it in France

    Blackpool fans like Patino and cuffy is doing well apparently

    some promising players that can carve a first team path one day
     
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  3. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know AMN & M'Hand have buy options. Runarsson & Mari might (don't recall). No other youth players do.
     
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  4. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also...

    Biereth started off really good. Haven't seen a report recently so not sure if he dropped off a bit or if I just missed.

    Flores doing well enough that he has been starting as a SS for Oviedo.
     
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  5. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    I think Mari has a buy obligation if Monza avoid relegation. Which...they currently have 0 points from 4 matches and a -9 goal diff.
     
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  6. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    according to bird, biereth is back at the club recovering from an injury.

     
  7. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    athletic had a piece a while ago on knapper and how we're forming relationships with certain clubs and managers to find solid landing places for loanees. it feels far, far more organised than it was previously.

    in the same way that eduteta seems to be more ruthless with letting people go, it feels like they're more willing to come up a bit short (in personnel) for the sake of long term development rather stick with wenger's "but we might have an injury" philosophy. i am 100% on board.
     
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  8. ArsenalJake

    ArsenalJake Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    Charlotte
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If this is true, does Mertesacker get a nod for this, or does this sort of thing more happen at the front office level?

    Your assessment does seem to be the case. I too am all for it, for now. The only way a big club can be 2 deep at every position like City or Madrid is if players can be sold on the idea of competing for 4 trophies a season. We aren't there yet.
     
  9. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    no, different. apparently, people think mertesacker has done a great job as academy head, though. he seems to be in step with eduteta and focus heavy on character/makeup. and the kids coming up seems to be more than just
    athletes but also have footballing instincts.

    the loan manager is ben knapper and he seems to be doing a solid job. letting kids go out seems to be eduteta being comfortable with coming up short on personnel in case of injuries.
     
  10. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    I could be mis-remembering, but I believe in an interview with Per that he suggested he has input on which players are ready for loan moves. With most of the the academy kids it makes more sense for him to have input than Arteta and probably as much input as Edu.
     
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  11. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
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    Arsenal FC
    that wouldn't surprise me. but finding the right place and establishing relationships with specific organisations is apparently knapper's job.
     
  12. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Reims up 1-0 late in the second half today on another Balogun goal.
     
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  13. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    The Short Fuse with updates on all loanees:

    https://theshortfuse.sbnation.com/2...1-folarin-balogun-marcelo-flores-miguel-azeez

    https://theshortfuse.sbnation.com/2...sley-maitland-niles-arthur-okonkwo-pablo-mari

    https://theshortfuse.sbnation.com/2...epe-nuno-tavares-auston-trusty-charlie-patino

    Auston Trusty might be interesting, played every minute for Birmingham in the Championship so far. Left footed CBs are all the rage. Maybe if Rob Holding decides to move on next summer Trusty could back up Gabriel?

    Charlie Patino is back from injury and scored against Millwall today.
     
  14. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    i found this to be an interesting bit.



    like, we know he's a good on-ball defender and a solid, if not particularly creative, maintainer of the ball. but this quote suggests to me he's not particularly aggressive in chasing down the ball out of possession and, for me, that feels like it might be the telling thing why he never could find long-term purchase with arteta, given how important that is with him.
     
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  15. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    most notes i've seen have lean towards what the article suggest - that is it's a move to cycle MLS talent into english and european football - but, i mean, if he can show some things in the championship, not a lot would be asked of a CB4/CB5 and, like you said, he's left-footed.
     
  16. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Auston Trusty has apparently been a collapses for Birmingham City.
     
  17. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    as in not good?
     
  18. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    *colossus

    autocorrect owned me lls
     
  19. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    heh. that is amazing to hear, though. holding is reaching an age where it wouldn't be terribly shocking for him to want first team action this offseason.
     
  20. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Yeah my friend who works with the club and sees them at training g says he’s a nice guys (loves ai and the sixers lulz) and has been excellent for them in the championship

    even though their form has been up and down
     
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  21. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    Balogun with another goal today, 6 goals and 2 assists for the season.
     
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  22. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Need to subtract the penalties, but .64 npxG + xA/90 for the season is very, very good.
     
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  23. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Assuming Balogun continues his current form and has reached the double digits in goals by January, for a team in danger of relegation, does the prospect of having him back next season impact Arsenal’s January business?
     
  24. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    i don't see how it would. striker does not appear to be a target for eduteta but rather winger and defensive midfieder. and balogun and nketiah does not affect the type of winger that would be targeted.
     
  25. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    i don't know how good crewe is in relation to their league but, holy hell, that's impressive returns.

     
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