NISA (New NASL-allied D3 league) Mega-Thread

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  1. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    The franchise fee for USL-C is now over $10 million. The other expenses to start can be up to $10 million depending on the stadium situation.

    USL League One (3rd division) is reported to cost $3 to $7 million to get started.
     
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  2. Stuart95

    Stuart95 Member+

    Mar 11, 2012
    NoVA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can't see the college draft going away completely. The country is too big for academies to completely cover an there are also foreign players who pursue US college soccer.
     
  3. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Championship is $12 million, up from $1 million in 2015.
    League One expansion fee was $2 million last time I read up on it.
     
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  4. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    If NISA finally dies a slow death, CFC would be in a pickle. USL-1 already in Chattanooga with its own SSS. Could CFC jump to USL-C? Could they merge resources with the USL-1 team (doubtful) or would they relocate or simply go out of business?
     
  6. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or just drop to NPSL.
     
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  7. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Kind of forgot about them, they are probably more stable than NISA at this point:D
     
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  8. Fugitivo

    Fugitivo New Member

    Sacramento Republic FC
    Oct 18, 2017
    Midland, TX
    Well, another team in the NISA has bit the dust:

    Per NISA's website (sorry, not a big tech junkie).

    CHICAGO (August 26, 2022) – Today the National Independent Soccer Association announced Bay Cities FC suspended operations for the balance of the 2022 season due to financial constraints. Bay Cities home match versus Cal United Strikers set for this weekend has been canceled. NISA and the club are now focused on finding a new primary team owner.

    “We are definitely disappointed that Bay Cities FC needed to make this decision,” said NISA Commissioner John Prutch. “This is difficult for everyone across the NISA landscape.”

    NISA has revised the 2022 schedule and table with the eight remaining clubs. The competition committee has revised the table to reflect the following:

    • The league is now condensed into a single table
    • The standings have been revised using an average-points per game total (points earned divided by matches played)
    • The results of all Bay Cities FC matches have been left intact
    The league will complete the season with a single table format. The playoffs still will include the top six clubs with the top two clubs earning a bye.

    Please direct any media queries to Steve Johnson at stevej@nisasoccer.com.
     
  9. aleaguer

    aleaguer Member

    Feb 17, 2000
    Wichita, KS USA
    but what about the money they didn't have to spend on expansion fees? didn't they have that?
     
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  10. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    why isn't this league dead yet?
    join the NASL and all the alphabet soup of leagues we have ever had.

    Also, isn't there supposed to be a minimum number of teams for a league to exist?
     
  11. soccermilitant

    soccermilitant Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    St.paul
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But but but independent clubs and the magic of pro/rel
     
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  12. Fugitivo

    Fugitivo New Member

    Sacramento Republic FC
    Oct 18, 2017
    Midland, TX
    As long as we have people who think like Steve Juncaj, Rocco Commisso, Robert Palmer, and Peter Wilt, leagues of this kind will continue to exist in the US Soccer Pyramid.


    I believe 8 is the bare minimum.
     
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  13. Stuart95

    Stuart95 Member+

    Mar 11, 2012
    NoVA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From the USSF website, in addition to stadia, financial viability and common standards for all pro leagues, a Div 3 men's league must: have a minimum of 8 teams and U.S.‐based teams must participate in the U.S. Open Cup.
     
  14. aleaguer

    aleaguer Member

    Feb 17, 2000
    Wichita, KS USA
    counting new amsterdam and chicago along with the arizona club and now bay cities, plus detroit jumping and Stumptown folding, they have lost six teams in less than a year.

    yeah, going really, really well bringing pro soccer to every community in america.
     
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  15. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The irony of the "bring soccer to every community" thing was that NISA has mostly been secondary/tertiary teams in MLS/USL markets. It's not like they've been filling the gap in places like Cleveland, New Orleans, and Baltimore.
     
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  16. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    So tell me again, why USSF or whoever is afraid of lawsuits for anti-competition?
    Is there actually some legal precedence on this?
    All of this is what is really keeping the USA from having a logical, strong , top to bottom pyramid. And in my world, it should be 2 completely different pyramid-
    professional and amateur.
    This process of everyone, everywhere doing there own thing hurts the game in this country and fans, thus this is why fans get frustrated as well.
     
  17. smontrose

    smontrose Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Aug 30, 2017
    Illinois, NW Suburb
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think logical pyramid of any sort is ever going to happen. I think those are the top like it this way.
    From my perspective,parent if an 04 boy, I just want to see a few, several paths for development beyond u19 and alternative to college. Is college ball any good for anyone besides dudes already on the radar?
    Anyway... I think these lower tier brands and teams can only get traction if they find a way to actively partner with the local soccer communities and get butts in seats. Soccer families don't go to watch soccer.
    If your a high school boy why would you not be going to check out usl2, usl-c, or upsl??? I think these kids are burnt and brainwashed by parents thinking they gotta get to college soccer and that's the end plan.
    Same for the girls. Take your kid out to a local semi pro game of any sort of college games. Total eye opener.
    I am currently getting an up close and personal with usl2 and upsl and it's interesting! These organizations deserve support.
    But yeah, asses in seats.
     
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  18. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Why do you want to have a pyramid? Just because it is easier to understand?
    Seems pretty clear to me.

    USSF has standards for Division 1, 2, and 3 professional leagues. Right now MLS is D1 and USL-C is D2. That seems pretty clear. If USL-C wants to become a D1 league its a big hurdle but why shouldn't they be able to do so?

    USL-1, NISA, and MLS Next Pro are all D3. They aren't moving up or down although NISA might want to try. I don't see any problem with having multiple leagues at the same level.

    Or is it because you want teams to have mobility up and down? USSF is not going to be able to mandate that. They don't have any desire to do it either. They are a membership organization. They are going to do what the members want. Having teams associated with their choice of league is what most owners want.
     
  19. aleaguer

    aleaguer Member

    Feb 17, 2000
    Wichita, KS USA
    no one is ever stoked about litigation except lawyers.

    that said, why do you think ussf is 'afraid' of fly-by-night leagues making noise that they are going to sue for whatever reason?

    yes, non-cooperation is a problem in the american system. everybody thinks their idea is the best one.

    but there are more teams and especially more pro teams than ever in this country's history at this moment. who is being anti-competitive, again?
     
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  20. Fugitivo

    Fugitivo New Member

    Sacramento Republic FC
    Oct 18, 2017
    Midland, TX
    But I thought a league without all those hoops you have to jump through to prove sustainability would be.... viable?

    Also, Jacksonvile Armada fans can trash the Tebow project all they want. Their anger and blame should be shifted to Robert Palmer. Why? Well, the guy had the money to move the Armada to USLC or USLL1 but instead opted for the NPSL because pro/rel for USA and NBA, NFL, NHL, MLB, and even NASCAR.
     
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  21. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Armada ending up in Next Pro would be the definition of irony.
     
  22. aleaguer

    aleaguer Member

    Feb 17, 2000
    Wichita, KS USA
    awwww, the cosplay brigade is upset they're getting a team they don't have to go support if they don't want to, because their collegiate wood bat team is so authentic and has brought nothing but glory to the city.

    ya boy rp has accomplished precisely nothing he said he was going to do. but by all means, carry on.
     
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  23. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    By the way, since they won't be in the same league as the Armada, wouldn't being a fan of both be an option?
     

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