2023 LH US Open Cup

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  1. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  2. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lamar Hunt US Open Cup - TheCup.us
    Here's a USL League Two update regarding who's in line for Open Cup NEXT YEAR (#USOC2023). With 16 divisions this year and regular season division champions getting priority for Open Cup, here's the list of all division leaders by PPG and tiebreaker order.
    #USOpenCup 2023 Priority List for #USLLeagueTwo (as of 6/20/22):
    1. Carolina Dynamo U-23
    2. Seacoast United Phantoms
    3. Ocean City Nor'easters
    4. Des Moines Menace
    5. Manhattan Soccer Club
    6. Asheville City Soccer Club
    7. Nona Soccer Academy
    8. Lionsbridge FC
    9. Park City Red Wolves SC
    10. Corpus Christi Football Club
    11. Texas United
    12. Ballard FC
    13. AFC Ann Arbor
    14. Southern California Seahorses
    15. FC United Soccer Club
    16. Fort Wayne FC
     
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  3. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    TheCup.us
    @usopencup

    Jun 19
    National Amateur Cup: Northern Virginia FC defeated Newtown Pride FC (CT), 2-2 (5:4 in pks) to win the #USASA Region I Amateur Cup last night. NoVa will join Beaman FC (TN) in Chicago, IL for the national finals on August 5-6. The other regional champs are TBD.
     
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  4. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank you for this. As a result, it led me to poking around and discovering that Round Rock has a team that's been in USL2 since 2020!
     
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  5. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lamar Hunt US Open Cup - TheCup.us

    BREAKING National Amateur Cup Update:
    USASA Region III Amateur Cup champion Beaman United FC (TN) has been disqualified from national contention.
    Runner-up ASC New Stars (TX) will move on to August's national finals in Chicago.
    It was found that players on Beaman United maintained professional status while competing in the amateur cup.
    Following an appeal, this has been confirmed by U.S. Soccer.
    ASC New Stars will now compete for it's 2nd ever #USOpenCup berth.
    Read up on that here:
    https://thecup.us/.../2011-meet-the-usasa-asc-new-stars.../
     
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  6. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lamar Hunt US Open Cup
    National Amateur Cup Finals have moved! The final four teams will now meet at Bavarian United Soccer Complex (Heartland Value Fund Stadium) in Glendale, WI, between Aug. 6-7.
    The semifinals draw takes place this weekend during United States Adult Soccer Association Soccer Fest in Chattanooga, TN.
    The four regional champions looking for a national title & a 2023 #USOpenCup spot are:
    Region I: Nova Fc (VA)
    Region II: Milwaukee Bavarian SC: UPSL, Majors and Reserve (WI)
    Region III: ASC New Stars (TX)
    Region IV: Los Ángeles Strikers (CA)

    [​IMG]
     
  8. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    The U.S. Open Cup Open Division handbook and overall schedule are out for 2023:

    https://www.ussoccer.com/2023-open-...2K5ppDOguilKrIV9avqN0t1rTytVusELFYcZ78mh30buo

    2023 Qualifying Tournament
    First Round - September 17-18, 2022
    Second Round - October 15-16, 2022
    Third Round - November 19-20, 2022
    Fourth Round - December 17-18, 2022

    2023 U.S. Open Cup
    First Round: March 21-23 = Amateur teams enter
    Second Round: April 4-6 = Division II teams enter
    Third Round: April 18-19 - most Division I teams enter
    Round of 32: May 9-10 - Seeded Division 1 teams enter
    Round of 16: May 23-24
    Quarterfinals: June 6
    Semifinals: August 23
    Final: September 27

    Round of entry for Division III teams will be determined by total number of teams qualified.
    Seeded teams are CCL entrants and next best based on MLS 2022 East (2) and West (2) standings.
    Specific games can be held outside the scheduled dates with approval by Tournament Commissioner.
     
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  10. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Let's look at possible numbers in the pro division for 2023.

    MLS: 25 eligible teams now + St. Louis in 2023 = 26
    USL-C: 23 eligible teams now + OKC and Queensboro in 2023 = 25
    USL-1: 11 eligible teams now + Lexington and Spokane in 2023 = 13
    MLS-NP: Rochester is the only one we know of now = 1
    NISA: 9/10 eligible teams now + ? in 2023 = 10 or 12, maybe

    That's around 75-77 pro teams.

    If we work backward:

    Round of 32: 8 MLS seeds + 24 winners
    3rd Round: 18 MLS teams + 30 winners
    2nd Round: 25 USLC teams + 35 winners
    1st Round: 13 USL1 + 1 MLSNP + 12 NISA + 44 Open Division teams

    That could be a total of 121 teams in the tournament.

    Obviously if they have some DIII teams start in the 2nd round that changes the number of Open Division teams.

    Anyone have other numbers?
     
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  11. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have, honestly, utterly lost track. How does this (# of pros, total #) compare to previous cups?
     
  12. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    #12 newtex, Jul 26, 2022
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2022
    2022 tournament: 103 teams total, 71 pro division
    2021: 102 total, 65 pro CANCELLED
    2020: 100 total, 62 pro CANCELLED
    2019: 84 total, 52 pro
    2018: 97 total, 42 pro
    2017: 99 total, 43 pro

    Things really jumped in the last couple of years as far as pro teams.
     
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  13. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    An interesting consequence if Sacramento wins the 2022 Open Cup.




    If that happens, then the round by round breakdown could look like this:

    Round of 32: 7 MLS + Sacramento seeds + 24 winners
    3rd Round: 19 MLS teams + 29 winners
    2nd Round: 25 USLC teams + 33 winners
    1st Round: 13 USL1 + 1 MLSNP + 12 NISA + 42 Open Division teams

    That could be a total of 119 teams in the tournament.

    Obviously if they have some DIII teams start in the 2nd round that changes the number of Open Division teams.

    So Sacramento could possibly knock out a couple of Open Division teams. If they win the Cup. We'll see what happens.
     
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  14. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's a very interesting impact that I hadn't even considered. I'm still rooting for Sacramento.
     
  15. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lamar Hunt US Open Cup - TheCup.us
    update for National Premier Soccer League for #USOC2023. We are expecting the league to receive 8 slots for the cup, but should the league receive fewer slots, this is the order the teams would be invited to the competition.
    1. FC Motown / Crossfire Premier Soccer winner (national champion)
    2. FC Motown / Crossfire Premier Soccer loser (national runner-up)
    3. Muskegon Risers (national semifinalist, 2.6 PPG)
    4. Tulsa Athletic (national semifinalist, 2.42 PPG)
    5. Jacksonville Armada FC U-23 (regional finalist, 2.83 PPG)
    6. El Farolito Academy (regional finalist, 2.4 PPG)
    7. Appalachian FC (regional finalist, 2.1 PPG)
    8. Cleveland SC (regional finalist, 2.08 PPG)
    Should any of these teams decline their invitation or become ineligible to take it, they would be replaced by the next best team in regular season points per game in their region. The full regional rankings can be found here:
    https://thecup.us/.../2023-us-open-cup-which-npsl-teams.../
     
  16. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lamar Hunt US Open Cup - TheCup.us is at Bavarian Soccer Club.
    Glendale, WI ·
    NATIONAL AMATEUR CUP: Nova Fc & Milwaukee Bavarian SC: UPSL, Majors and Reserve will play for the Fritz Marth trophy today at 2 PM CT. The winner of that game earns a spot in #USOC2023. Each side won their respective semifinal on Saturday for this chance.
    Article by Ty Stulo: https://thecup.us/.../nova-fc-bavarian-sc-advance-to.../
    Region 1 champion NoVa, the defending Eastern Premier Soccer League champion, won over ASC New Stars via it's fourth straight penalty kick shootout in this tournament. Meanwhile hosts and Region 2 champion Bavarians bested upstart Los Ángeles Strikers.
    Bavarians, a historic side and recent power in the Midwest Premier League, are looking to become the second United States Adult Soccer Association national champion to directly qualifying for the #USOpenCup.
     
  17. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    TheCup.us
    @usopencup
    3h
    Bavarian United SC is back on top! The Wisconsin side wins the 2022 #USASA National Amateur Cup over Northern Virginia FC, 1-0. This is Bavarian's sixth national amateur title and first since 2018. Bavarian automatically qualifies for the 2023 #USOpenCup! #USOC2023
     
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  18. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    2023 U.S. Open Cup Local Qualifying
    Home team first.
    Times are ET

    The 2023 Local Qualifying tournament starts soon. There will be 4 rounds to get this group down to 9 entrants into the Open Cup tournament proper next spring.

    First Qualifying Round
    East Region
    Saturday, September 17
    Philadelphia Ukrainian Nationals (PA) v. West Chester United SC (PA) 10:00 am
    Oyster Bay United FC (NY) v. New Jersey Alliance FC (NJ) 2:30 pm
    Florida Soccer Soldiers (FL) v. City Soccer FC (FL) 4:00 pm
    Club de Lyon (FL) v. Deportivo Lake Mary FC (FL) 4:00 pm
    Juventus Academy (FL) v. Doral SC (FL) 7:00 pm
    Germantown City FC (MD) v. Aegean Hawks FC (MD) 7:00 pm
    SC Vistula Garfield (NJ) v. New York Pancyprian Freedoms (NY) 7:30 pm
    Nova FC (VA) v. Steel Pulse FC (MD) 7:45 pm
    Lansdowne Yonkers FC (NY) v. Manhattan Kickers FC (NY) 8:00 pm

    Sunday, September 18
    Ruggles Pro FC (MA) v. Boston Street FC (MA) 1:00 pm
    Vereinigung Erzgebirge (PA) vs. Philadelphia Lone Star FC (PA) 2:00 pm
    Lancaster City FC (PA) vs. Lancaster Elite (PA) 3:00 pm
    Team Tevez (DC) v. DCFC (DC) 4:00 pm
    New York Greek American SC (NY) v. Newtown Pride FC (CT) 5:00 pm
    Clearwater Chargers SC (FL) v. Florida Premier FC (FL) 6:00 pm
    Kensington Soccer Club (PA) v. United German Hungarians (PA) 7:00 pm
    Miami United FC (FL) v. Florida Brothers (FL) 7:00 pm
    Real Central NJ Soccer (NJ) v. Jackson Lions FC (NJ) 7:00 pm
    Scots-American Athletic Club (NJ) v. Queensboro FC II (NY) 7:30 pm
    Miami Soccer Academy (FL) v. O'Shea's FC (FL) 8:00 pm
    International Soccer Association (FL) v. West Palm Beach Academy CF (FL) 9:00 pm

    BYES: 1927 SC (IN), Beaman United FC (TN), Bowling Green FC (KY), Brockton FC United (MA), Chicago House AC (IL), Christos FC (MD), FC Birmingham (AL), Gainesville City FC (FL), Hurricane FC (FL), IASC Boom (NY), Kalonji Pro-Profile (GA), Metro Louisville FC (KY), Mint Hill FC (NC), Naples City FC (FL), Naples United FC (FL), Orlando FC Wolves (FL), Sahara Gunners FC (NY), Santa Cruz FC (MA), South Carolina United Heat (SC), TCSA (GA), Tobacco Road FC (NC), Unations FC (MA), Valhalla FC (OH)


    West Region
    Saturday, September 17
    Houston FC (TX) v. Galveston Pelicans FC (TX) 2:00 pm
    FC Fort Worth (TX) v. D'Feeters Kicks Soccer Club (TX) 7:00 pm
    LA Monsters FC (CA) v. Irvine FC (CA) 7:00 pm
    FC Denver (CO) v. Harpos FC (CO) 10:00 pm
    FC Arizona (AZ) v. Valley FC Raiders (AZ) 10:00 pm
    Laguna United FC (CA) v. Olympiacos CA (CA) 10:00 pm
    UC Davis Club Soccer (CA) v. Davis Legacy SC (CA) 11:15 pm

    Sunday, September 18
    Athletic Club of Sloan's Lake (CO) v. Peak Eleven Football Club (CO) 4:00 pm
    Colorado Rovers (CO) v. Azteca FC (CO) 6:00 pm
    Inter San Francisco (CA) v. Marin County Union SC (CA) 7:30 pm
    Outbreak FC (CA) v. A.S. Los Angeles (CA) 8:00 pm
    Rebels Soccer Club (CA) v. Escondido FC (CA) 9:00 pm
    OC Kings FC (CA) v. Capo FC (CA) 10:00 pm
    Trojans FC (CA) v. Orange County FC (CA) 11:00 pm

    BYES: Alamo City Soccer Club (TX), BattleBorn FC (NV), Bellevue Athletic FC (WA), Boulder United FC (CO), Coronado Athletic Club (AZ), D10 Lions FC (TX), Desert FC (CA), Elk Grove Blues (CA), Legend Football Gold (WA), Modesto City Football Club (CA), Olympians FC (AZ), Real San Jose (CA), Temecula FC (CA), UDA Soccer (NM)

    The 2nd Round is October 15-16.
     
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  20. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    #20 newtex, Sep 9, 2022
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2022
    I didn't take the time to break this down yesterday.

    There are 21 matchups in the first round for the East and 23 teams on bye so after the first round it will be down to 44 teams.

    The West has 14 first round games and 14 teams on bye for a total of 28 left after the first round.

    The 2nd and 3rd round will get us down to 18 teams left after the 3rd round: 11 East and 7 West. I guess the regions will sort of go away for the 4th round and they'll match teams up as geographically as they can at that point to get to 9 finalists.

    Looking at the map that might be a team from Texas meeting up with a team from the Midwest or Southeast. We shall see.
     
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  21. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Queensboro FC
    @QueensboroFC

    5h
    Queensboro FC is excited to announce that we will compete in the Lamar Hunt U.S Open Cup
    @opencup
    , the oldest ongoing national competition in the United States
     
  22. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lamar Hunt US Open Cup - TheCup.us
    Yesterday the first #USOC2023 qualifying matches took place across the country. In total, 17 teams punched their tickets to next month's second round. Here are the results:
    Saturday, September 17:
    * West Chester Predators (PA) defeated Philadelphia Ukrainian Nationals Soccer Club (PA), 2:1
    * Houston FC (TX) defeated Galveston Pelicans FC (TX), 10:1
    * City Soccer FC (FL) defeated Florida Soccer Soldiers (FL), 3:2
    * CLUB De LYON FC (FL) defeated Deportivo Lake Mary Football Club (FL), 3:0
    * Oyster Bay United FC (NY) defeated New Jersey Alliance FC (NJ), 2:1 (AET)
    * Juventus Academy Miami (FL) defeated Doral Soccer Club (FL), 4:3
    * Germantown City FC (PA) defeated Aegean Hawks FC (D.C.), 2:1
    * DKSC Badtop (TX) defeated FC FORT WORTH Soccer Club (TX), 5:1
    * Irvine FC (CA) defeated LA Monsters FC (CA), 3:0
    * SC Vistula Garfield (NJ) defeated New York Pancyprian Freedoms (Eleftheria-Pancyprian Soccer Club) (NY), 1:0
    * Nova Fc (VA) defeated Steel Pulse FC (MD), 0:0 (1:3 PK)
    * Lansdowne Yonkers FC (NY) defeated Manhattan Kickers (NY), 5:0
    * Rebels SC adult (CA) defeated Escondido Fc (CA), 2:1
    * FC Denver (CO) defeated Harpos FC (CO), 2:1
    * Valley Football Club Raiders (AZ) defeated FC Arizona (AZ), 5:1
    * Laguna United FC (CA) defeated Olympiacos CA (CA), 3:0
    * Davis Legacy Soccer Club (CA) defeated UC Davis Men's Club Soccer (CA), 4:3
     
  23. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    First Round Results:

    2023 U.S. Open Cup Local Qualifying
    Home team first.
    Times are ET

    First Qualifying Round
    East Region
    Saturday, September 17
    Philadelphia Ukrainian Nationals (PA) 1-2 West Chester United SC (PA)
    Oyster Bay United FC (NY) 2-1 (aet) New Jersey Alliance FC (NJ)
    Florida Soccer Soldiers (FL) 2-3 City Soccer FC (FL)
    Club de Lyon (FL) 3-0 Deportivo Lake Mary FC (FL)
    Juventus Academy (FL) 4-3 Doral SC (FL
    Germantown City FC (MD) 2-1 Aegean Hawks FC (MD)
    SC Vistula Garfield (NJ) 1-0 New York Pancyprian Freedoms (NY)
    Nova FC (VA) 0-0 (pks 3-1) Steel Pulse FC (MD)
    Lansdowne Yonkers FC (NY) 5-0 Manhattan Kickers FC (NY)

    Sunday, September 18
    Ruggles Pro FC (MA) 0-0 (pks 12-13) Boston Street FC (MA)
    Vereinigung Erzgebirge (PA) 2-1 Philadelphia Lone Star FC (PA)
    Lancaster City FC (PA) 2-3(aet) Lancaster Elite (PA)
    Team Tevez (DC) 2-4 (aet) DCFC (DC)
    New York Greek American SC (NY) 3-3 (pks 11-10) Newtown Pride FC (CT)
    Clearwater Chargers SC (FL) 0-4 Florida Premier FC (FL)
    Kensington Soccer Club (PA) 0-3 United German Hungarians (PA)
    Miami United FC (FL) 3-1 Florida Brothers (FL)
    Real Central NJ Soccer (NJ) 2-4 Jackson Lions FC (NJ)
    Scots-American Athletic Club (NJ) 0-5 Queensboro FC II (NY)
    Miami Soccer Academy (FL) 2-1 O'Shea's FC (FL)
    International Soccer Association (FL) 5-3 West Palm Beach Academy CF (FL)

    BYES: 1927 SC (IN), Beaman United FC (TN), Bowling Green FC (KY), Brockton FC United (MA), Chicago House AC (IL), Christos FC (MD), FC Birmingham (AL), Gainesville City FC (FL), Hurricane FC (FL), IASC Boom (NY), Kalonji Pro-Profile (GA), Metro Louisville FC (KY), Mint Hill FC (NC), Naples City FC (FL), Naples United FC (FL), Orlando FC Wolves (FL), Sahara Gunners FC (NY), Santa Cruz FC (MA), South Carolina United Heat (SC), TCSA (GA), Tobacco Road FC (NC), Unations FC (MA), Valhalla FC (OH)

    West Region
    Saturday, September 17
    Houston FC (TX) 10-1 Galveston Pelicans FC (TX)
    FC Fort Worth (TX) 1-5 D'Feeters Kicks Soccer Club (TX)
    LA Monsters FC (CA) 3-0 Irvine FC (CA)
    FC Denver (CO) 2-0 Harpos FC (CO)
    FC Arizona (AZ) 1-5 Valley FC Raiders (AZ)
    Laguna United FC (CA) 3-0 Olympiacos CA (CA)
    UC Davis Club Soccer (CA) 3-4 Davis Legacy SC (CA)

    Sunday, September 18
    Athletic Club of Sloan's Lake (CO) 3-0 Peak Eleven Football Club (CO)
    Colorado Rovers (CO) 1-3 Azteca FC (CO)
    Inter San Francisco (CA) 5-0 Marin County Union SC (CA)
    Outbreak FC (CA) 0-0 (pks 4-2) A.S. Los Angeles (CA)
    Rebels Soccer Club (CA) 2-2 (pks 1-3) Escondido FC (CA)
    OC Kings FC (CA) FFT Capo FC (CA)
    Trojans FC (CA) 1-3 Orange County FC (CA)

    BYES: Alamo City Soccer Club (TX), BattleBorn FC (NV), Bellevue Athletic FC (WA), Boulder United FC (CO), Coronado Athletic Club (AZ), D10 Lions FC (TX), Desert FC (CA), Elk Grove Blues (CA), Legend Football Gold (WA), Modesto City Football Club (CA), Olympians FC (AZ), Real San Jose (CA), Temecula FC (CA), UDA Soccer (NM)

    The 2nd Round is October 15-16.
     
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  24. TOEPOKE

    TOEPOKE Member

    Bayern Munich
    Germany
    Sep 7, 2021
    How is the next round decided? Is there a formula, draw, or the LH Open Cup handle this in house?
     
  25. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    The USSF makes pairings by geography for this tournament. If it is close then they flip a coin.

    EDIT: I should have added that teams have to apply to host. So they have to take that into consideration as well.

    We should see the 2nd round pairings soon.
     
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