2022 WC Qualifiers

Discussion in 'Ecuador - National Team' started by Primitive Ways, Jul 17, 2018.

  1. javer

    javer Member

    Sep 11, 2012
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Not saying we should take 4 gk to the WC but those are our 4 main options to look at. Dominguez never had that starting Position secured so Galindez will be his competition and that 3rd GK spot can go to either Ramirez or Ortiz who if either of them go in great form can really give Dida and Galindez some competition as well.
     
  2. javer

    javer Member

    Sep 11, 2012
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    #3327 javer, Jul 20, 2022
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2022
    He needs one more year and has to get nationalized.


    There pretty stacked in midfield I was hoping he would go to a Euro league or Brazil.
     
  3. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    He's good, too!

    We have a decent amount of serviceable goalkeepers in Ecuador, but the issue will always become if they can handle the pressure. More than any other position on the pitch, the GK is the one role where nervousness or a lack of self confidence can negatively affect the entire scoreline.

    Assume a striker fails to perform, a midfielder or defender can score on a set piece or counter to mitigate. The game can end in a win or tie.

    If a striker fails to mark his man, a midfielder or defender can take the ball away and distribute to alleviate pressure from an opposing squad. The game can end in a win or tie.

    If a defender or midfielder fails to mark on the backline, a good goalkeeper can save the shot.

    If a goalkeeper makes a mistake, even an elementary one, a win can be a tie, and a tie can be a loss. This is probably the most accountable position on the pitch with the exception of a guy who is forced to take a penalty kick. I can't imagine the pressure.
     
  4. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I don't think he had solid minutes lately to make him as visible or desirable. Objectively speaking, considering all the skepticism around the overall quality of MLS play, you'd have to be a true standout to make the leap anywhere that isn't back to Ecuador, or to a similar-quality league....at least to a place where one can grow.
     
  5. javer

    javer Member

    Sep 11, 2012
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    LAFC paid only 300k and his price tag isnt that high. Was hoping a smaller Euro league or team could swoop in even if it was only a loan the Championship for example could have been a good option since alot of MLS players went there recently not to mention Austria, Norway, Belgium, Scotland, Greece as the other Euro Leagues scouting MLS recently.
     
  6. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    #3331 The Machine, Jul 20, 2022
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2022
    If the World started tomorrow, this would be the list:

    GKs - Dominguez, Galindez, Ortiz
    CBs - Torres, Hincapie, Arreaga, Porozo, Leon
    RBs - B. Castillo, Angelo Preciado
    LBs - Estupiñan, Palacios

    RWs - Mena, Plata
    LWs - Sarmiento, Romario Ibarra, Alvarado
    Center mids - Moises, Gruezo, Franco, Mendez, Cifuentes

    Strikers - Enner, Estrada, J. Caicedo, Campana

    There's two wild cards - Arboleda and Ayrton Preciado. If Arboleda recovers in time then he'll go in place of Leon or Porozo. If Ayrton Preciado recovers his form then it would come down to him and Alvarado.

    Left back is a position that's of concern to me. Estupiñan is the starter and Palacios is the backup. Do we have an adequate replacement should either of them get injured? Chala and Chavez come to mind but they haven't been part of the process.

    Nilson Angulo and Patrickson Delgado are two players to keep an eye on. If they play well for their respective clubs then I don't think Alfaro would hesitate in taking them to Qatar.
     
  7. Primitive Ways

    Primitive Ways Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
  8. Primitive Ways

    Primitive Ways Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    FEF uploaded a couple pics of Alfaro and Campana on Twitter. He’s definitely going.
     
  9. Allan_Somewhere

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Pacho starting out on the right foot in Belgium and Ordóñez off to Brugge.

    I'm thankful that Belgium is giving our players a chance.
     
  10. Primitive Ways

    Primitive Ways Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Is Aucas the best team right now?

    I wonder how Farias would fare if he went to a NT with resources. I haven’t watched much Aucas but I think he is still undefeated.

    BTW, I think FEF made the right call by not appointing Celico as coach. I don’t see a style of play in Barcelona or perhaps it’s the players he lost.
     
  11. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I don't think it's fair to pass judgment on Celico just yet. He's not the one who built the squad. Due to BSC's deficit adding players mid season wasn't feasible. I think they only added Fidel Martinez. He may not be the player he once was. Letting go of Cortez was a bad move from a footballing standpoint. He was their best player early in the season.
     
  12. Allan_Somewhere

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Yeah in the second phase Aucas has been steamrolling teams.

    Wouldn't be surprised to see them in the final.
     
  13. javer

    javer Member

    Sep 11, 2012
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    They made alot of move in the first phase. Brought a bunch of Ecuadorian players back from el exterior, signed alot of promising young players in liga pro now Farias and Vizuete are taking over.

    https://www.ecuagol.com/noticias/co...ro-del-cuerpo-tecnico-de-cesar-farias/185977/
     
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  14. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Farias is a very shrewd coach. Adding Sixto to the staff is a great pick-up. Aucas has been a sleeping giant for quite a while. They have a large fan base and there's a mysticism around the team, which is probably due to the indigenous identity and the strong working class identity built by the team.

    I'm very excited to see Sixto back to coaching. He's been wronged by the FEF and never really got a fair shake at the Ecua club level...he's always inheriting someone else's mess. He knows the youth system well.
     
  15. javer

    javer Member

    Sep 11, 2012
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Would be nice to see Ecuadorian football launch these guys into better leagues. Either way it still great for our football. Aucas has been producing and selling players and have been making heavy moves in the transfer windows they will reap rewards soon. Vizuete can scout El Nacho and Imbabura players would love to see that kind of partnership be formed so that they can really grow their academies.
     
  16. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Aucas definitely needs to catapult their team into the 21st century. Their formativas need better infrastructure and the stadium is in desperate need of an almost complete remodeling job.
     
  17. Primitive Ways

    Primitive Ways Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Martinez became a ghost after he missed that PK. Dude scored a nice gol but then disappeared.

    I think loaning Cortez was the right decision. The media would have convicted the guy whether he is guilty or not and adding extra pressure just because Barcelona.

    Am I the only one who thinks they are not using VAR properly? They stop for every single play.
     
  18. Allan_Somewhere

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Their sporting director deserves a lot of credit for being able to have Quiñónez, Ade, and Galindez on the same team. Hopefully they keep building and keep the league competitive.

    A stronger league will bring in more views and hopefully improves their level of play in international tournaments too.
     
  19. Allan_Somewhere

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    You guys think Porozo will displace Torres if he doesn't move teams?

    Because Torres level has dipped since Almada left.
     
  20. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Anything is possible but as of right now I wouldn't bet on it. That being said I expect Porozo to be the starter in a year or two. Dude is going to be a beast once everything clicks.

    Losing Arboleda was a big blow. Nothing against Torres but personally I didn't think Arboleda deserved to lose his starting spot.
     
  21. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    It's unfortunate Jhonny Quiñonez got injured at the end of last season. He's a better player than Carcelen. I haven't seen him play this season but if Aucas keeps doing well then I can see him getting an opportunity in a friendly.
     
  22. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    VAR usage in Ecuador is a joke. Refereeing as a whole in the country is abysmal.
     
  23. Allan_Somewhere

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Torres does have one thing that both Arboleda and Porozo (at the moment) don't have: accurate long balls. He's the only one who can break defenses like that.

    But I think Porozo will displace him once he learns to play long balls and him moving to the French league will help him develop that.

    He's a really good player but injuries seem to always stop him when he's gaining consistency.
     
  24. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I'm looking forward to seeing how Porozo's game develops now that he's moved to the French league. Being able to play long balls is important but I feel like the NT has become too reliant on that. We can become predictable and strong teams can design defensive strategies to offset that.

    Quiñonez has suffered two serious knee injuries. I don't recall how he suffered the first one. He was playing in Europe at the time. Choclo Quintero was the cause of his second knee injury. I can't say he's injury prone but having two serious knee injuries at this young an age isn't ideal.
     
  25. Primitive Ways

    Primitive Ways Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I hope Moises wrecks United this Sunday.
     

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