German Fraulein National Team 2020 & beyond

You do realize, if MVT facing the same kinds of uneven odds, and accomplished the same kind of success as Gallai, she'd be hailed as one of the finest wnt coaches right now...

Hoffenheim Vs The ENTIRE player pool of Germany lol... MVT hasn't beat anyone renowned, not produced football to impress anyone, and done so having the choice of the best players in Germany's impressive player pool.

Gallai has beat teams with far larger budgets, with far more established history for success, and done so using an style of football that's impressed many neutral observers; who've regularly praised his team for their ability to punch above their weight class.

If MVT does this, Germany aren't heading into these Euro's widely ignored for their chances of being genuine contenders...

 

But when this happens to Germany's players, it's perfectly fine...

I never understand this obsession for various wnt players to be constantly pushed into random positions... But in Germany's case, it's become a legitimate handicap, seeing the amount of distrust various coaches have had for the general quality of the national player pool.

With a league and national player pool like Germany, there should NEVER be an excuse/need to force a scenario talented youngsters like Oberdorf, Lattwein, Nüsken, Lohmann, placed into defensive roles. It just hurts the team, and damages players confidence.

 

Yet England created as many chances as Germany did when facing Switzerland... and did so with 59% possession, compared to Germany's 66%. Dude... both England and Germany literally displayed the exact same amount of intensity lol.

Germany didn't showcase anymore a exceptional display of energy Vs Switzerland, and for most of the first half didn't look close to leaving 1st gear either. Again, your trying way too hard to establish factors that don't exist here.

I said this... and you managed to conflate it with my appreciation of Popp's potential as the teams main #9. But yes... being more efficient at getting the ball wide, should be a very important focus of MVT tactical efforts.

 

Two CB's actually defending correctly, versus various CM/AM's being forced into CB roles, defending like their wearing clown shoes. Wow... big shock, glad MVT was able to waste numerous years wrestling with this quantum physics level conundrum...

 

Seriously... are we still playing this ridiculous game, where questions of suspect conditioning allowed as one of MVT's various poor excuses lol. Just look at the stats of Wolfsburg and Bayern players in the WUCL, and you see them featuring in the top of the charts concerning factors that require individuals strong physical conditioning.

German clubs not deploying systems they're expected to use a Barca like death by a thousand passes approach, it should be obvious conditioning not a factor for many of MVT players.

This still remains a really bad excuse for MVT's inability to construct team around a clear system. And I'm not hearing any of this once the tournament starts, knowing MVT has access to the top two CM's in Europe last season for successful tackling rates...

 

Wow... celebrating the absence of the opponents best players, before MVT have a chance to face them lol. Germany under MVT aren't a great team, but their players are talented enough to want to face the best opponents possible.

And honestly... I've been waiting a long time to finally get a CM playing Oberdorf in wnt jersey, facing the best CM's in the world; meaning Putellas missing this Euro's encounter, a rather annoying scenario right now lol...

 

Sorry... I can't agree with any of this. A tournament not filled with powerhouse wnt's, or any truly overwhelmingly dominant players. Praying for the demise of rivals best individuals is not only weak, but completely unnecessary for any side who genuinely believes themselves capable of lifting this trophy right now.

Based on actual accomplishments, I wouldn't call Denmark, or Spain, genuine powers in women's international soccer... Their teams just have varying levels of high profile players right now, in a group alongside a German wnt nobody really knows.

If Germany actually preformed to their level... I don't think people would consider this group a major battle ground for knock out round qualification.

 

Cerci, Küver, Wieder, would not have been selected for the final 23. Leupolz being pregnant saved MVT from having to cut another quality CM. And hot take here... Marozsan getting injured, might have saved this team seeing anymore of the failed Dabritz - Marozsan CM duo...

Again... why are you talking about Wiegman in a topic concerning MVT? And what does this have to do with questions of Germany's conditioning after a season we've ALL witnessed German teams produce impressive performances in the areas of physical exertion; this equal, or even superior, to many European rivals too...?

Conditioning isn't the issue for these players. It's questions of technical, and tactical progress, which holds them back from their full potential in a wnt jersey.

 

... Hold on... I'm the one who had to tell you how little club football will cross over into wnt football; Me specifically speaking on Lyon's success having little to no effect on the French national team.

And now.... seeing me explain why German players aren't lacking in areas of strong physical conditioning, your answer is to ignore facts, and randomly repeat back to me, what I've previously told you about the history of WUCL success lol...

Projecting your own random opinions on Germany potentially over-exerting themselves against Switzerland, only to ignore England producing the EXACT same levels of dominance in their victory over the same opponent a few days later lol.

 

The numbers don't lie... Lattwein - Oberdorf produced top tier stats last season, where their ability to make successful tackles as CM's would even see them finish #1 & #2 among Europe's elite. So... again... how does that relate to foreign talent on their team...?

You speculated on German players conditioning, using the same horrible excuse we saw MVT throw out during the mini tournament horror show. I show clear evidence to counteract those views, and now it's irrelevant because... foreign players lol.

 

@hotjam2 you know who runs the most (distance covered) based on their various clubs/wnt programs style of play... Spanish players. But guess what, they don't come close to the best in successful tackles made, balls recovered, or players with the highest top speed.

So... is anybody dumb enough to start questioning the conditioning of Spanish players, of course not. Same way your not questioning Japanese players, as anyone paying attention here will understand it's dependent on HOW teams play, that typically relates to factors of conditioning.

Germany's senior wnt need better tactical advancements in coaching, to push the more technically demanding football, that will finally unlock the best from their player pool. Give the players a real system, and success will follow.

 

Martina Voss-Tecklenburg, Germany coach: "Other nations don't know exactly what we're capable of at the moment. That can be a huge advantage for us. It will be very close at this European Championship and it will also depend on the luck of the game and the little things. We will have cool opponents who can really do something."

Just bolding almost everything because it's so baffling lol. MVT claims that other nations don't know what Germany's capable of at the moment lol. As if she knows it herself. Then she thinks it will be an advantage, and she's already using luck and other factors for her team's inevitable failure...

yikes

 

And why is it that Däbritz is so highly regarded in the media? Like, no doubt, she's a great player, able to compete at the highest level, but I don't really see why she's considered such an amazing midfielder as if she was the very best in the game. I'd have no problem benching her for Oberdorf, Lohmann, Lattwin, and let's throw in Nüsken too

I read an article that she does a lot of work in the shadows of the game, which might be true, but honestly, Däbritz hasn't been as amazing in the midfield role for neither club nor country imo... like obviously a class player, but she's not that amazing imo

 

LOL... I said I'd noticed the exact same thing a few days ago, where foreign media didn't seem to know anything about Germany's wnt...

But it's really strange seeing MVT trying to turn this wider apathy for her coaching, into a positive factor for her players right now; when all it does is confirm her German wnt, basically unrecognizable to many as a legitimate German wnt anymore lol.

She has the spine of a resurgent Wolfsburg form the core of her wnt team, and thinks it's positive nobody knows what these players will be capable of within a wnt jersey...

 

I completely agree... as I'm also very lost on the new found elevation in Däbritz's status. (I don't believe she's anywhere near the quality of Oberdorf, or Lattwein, in a CM role...) However, Däbritz is in her late 20's now, having just moved to Lyon, after spending time at PSG. She's basically nearing the peak years of a player, within a wnt where it's true best players still very young, and clearly still unknown.

Lets be real... outside of Popp, Däbritz is this teams second most capped out-field player. Providing neutrals, media, a hard task assessing the potential of most players on this team.

 

8 goals, 9 assists, as a CAM for PSG last season, shows she had a good level of productivity. But I also know Hagel produced 12 goals, 5 assists, as a CAM for a much weaker Hoffenheim, so...

I don't know what media think they see Däbritz contribute in these so called "shadows" lol, but Magull is factually a better CAM, with a host of players being superior CM options; I just find it dumb watching MVT doing everything possible, not to use an obvious star like Oberdorf in her most effective position...

 

I don't know how long this will remain on YT, but a day before the Euro's start for Germany, this documentaries first episode provides real evidence on why Germany have struggled under MVT...

Watch the part around 28mins, covering Oberdorf and the match Vs Bulgaria... not only is this truly insightful, but mainly provides 100% confirmation on MVT's biggest flaw, coaching players who clearly don't like her style of touchline remote controlling; clearly no confidence in a legitimate system.

I'm honestly shocked hearing what Oberdorf says, and the way that she says it. With MVT openly stating there's been issues with so many of her players being forced into roles they don't feature/excel within club football...

 

I remember seeing a completely undeserving Krumbiegel being given numerous match time for the senior team, where MVT was literally screaming at her relentlessly telling her exactly what to do, in games she appeared lost/beyond one's capabilities.

And seeing MVT do this to Oberdorf forced into a CB role, knowing Oberdorf a special talent as a CM, is honestly crazy... thinking MVT knows it's a bad scenario, but somehow persists with this in the reality of continuous inconsistent/poor performances.

 

Thankfully, the defense should be better now with Hegering - Hendrich becoming the main CB partnership for this team... but seeing MVT talk about Marozsan being a great CM is...; as it establishes a major concern with the notion this wnt being a balanced unit, featuring players functioning to their best abilities in roles they can truly excel, or dominate.

Possessing genuine talent, but without a system, and without an identity... Germany are going to need luck, or genuine providence, to get an MVT constantly screaming from the side-line, to actually construct a team that can win this tournament.

It's going to be the random luck of player selection, injury, suspension, that propels this group of players to success lol...

 

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No it`s because we have already seen the two weakest teams with Northern Ireland and Finland..