06/24/22 FC Cincinnati vs Orlando City SC TQL Stadium (7:30PM ET) REF: Guido Gonzales Jr AR1: Adam Garner AR2: Lyes Arfa 4TH: Armando Villarreal VAR: Daniel Radford AVAR: Mike Kampmeinert 06/25/22 Seattle Sounders vs Sporting Kansas City Lumen Field (3PM ET) on ABC REF: Alex Chilowicz AR1: Jeff Hosking AR2: Corey Rockwell 4TH: Chris Ruska VAR: Edvin Jurisevic AVAR: Mike Kampmeinert D.C. United vs Nashville Audi Field (5PM ET) on ESPN REF: Lukasz Szpala AR1: Jason White AR2: Justin Howard 4TH: Luis Arroyo VAR: Carol Anne Chenard AVAR: Rene Parra CF Montréal vs Charlotte FC Stade Saputo (7:30PM ET) REF: Nima Saghafi AR1: Kathryn Nesbitt AR2: Jeffrey Swartzel 4TH: Marcos DeOliveira VAR: Daniel Radford AVAR: Jonathan Johnson Toronto FC vs Atlanta United BMO Field (7:30PM ET) REF: Jon Freeman AR1: Chantal Boudreau AR2: Adam Wienckowski 4TH: Fabrizio Stasolla VAR: Kevin Terry Jr AVAR: Diego Blas Houston Dynamo vs Chicago Fire PNC Stadium (8PM ET) REF: Ismir Pekmic AR1: Frank Anderson AR2: Tiffini Turpini 4TH: Brad Jensen VAR: Sorin Stoica AVAR: Robert Schaap Inter Miami vs Minnesota United DRV PNK Stadium (8PM ET) REF: Victor Rivas AR1: Jeffrey Greeson AR2: Gjovalin Bori 4TH: Alyssa Nichols VAR: Jorge Gonzalez AVAR: Jeremy Hanson Austin FC vs FC Dallas Q2 Stadium (9PM ET) REF: Allen Chapman AR1: Andrew Bigelow AR2: Ian McKay 4TH: Jeremy Scheer VAR: Malik Badawi AVAR: Tom Supple Real Salt Lake vs Columbus Crew Rio Tinto Stadium (10PM ET) REF: Mark Allatin *MLS DEBUT AR1: Corey Parker AR2: Kyle Atkins 4TH: Silviu Petrescu VAR: Edvin Jurisevic AVAR: Eric Weisbrod San Jose Earthquakes vs LA Galaxy Stanford Stadium (10PM ET) REF: Ramy Touchan AR1: Logan Brown AR2: Brian Poeschel 4TH: Elton Garcia VAR: Jose Carlos Rivera AVAR: Rene Parra Portland Timbers vs Colorado Rapids Providence Park (10:30PM ET) REF: Rosendo Mendoza AR1: Jeremy Kieso AR2: Eduardo Jeff 4TH: Brandon Stevis VAR: Younes Karrakchi AVAR: Mike Kampmeinert 06/26/22 Los Angeles FC vs New York Red Bulls Banc of California Stadium (3PM ET) on ABC REF: Joe Dickerson AR1: Ian Anderson AR2: Chris Elliott 4TH: Matthew Corrigan VAR: Edvin Jurisevic AVAR: Jonathan Johnson Philadelphia Union vs New York City FC Subaru Park (6PM ET) on FS1 REF: Armando Villarreal AR1: Matthew Nelson AR2: Jose Da Silva 4TH: Guido Gonzales Jr VAR: Jorge Gonzalez AVAR: Mike Kampmeinert Vancouver Whitecaps vs New England Revolution BC Place (8PM ET) REF: Filip Dujic *MLS DEBUT AR1: Micheal Barwegen AR2: Gianni Facchini 4TH: Silviu Petrescu VAR: Geoff Gamble AVAR: Jeremy Hanson
Curious to me that this wasn't called offside (not on the tap in but in the APP) Sure looked to me that CIN #9 was right in the ORL GK sightline for that shot; He still made the save but coughed up a rebound. I can see why it wasn't called but just seemed curious. Lucho Acosta makes it happen, Brenner finishes the goal!@fccincinnati find the break-through. pic.twitter.com/GgE10QnCfy— Major League Soccer (@MLS) June 25, 2022
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Probably for this reason. Offside is generally considered an objective decision but it’s difficult to remove subjectivity from involvement. The offside positioned player is 12ish yards away from goal which is on the longer side of involvement. It also does not appear the goalie dives late, or hesitates. For these reasons, I’d lean towards not offside as an answer but either way this is a check complete
that’s a good point - he is pretty far away and doesn’t seem to affect the GK’s response (he made a great save on a deflected ball)
Haven’t watched a huge amount of DCU-NSH, but pretty impressed with Szpala. Solid misconduct and foul recognition. Even as DC fights to get back into it, the game is in good control through 65 minutes.
Thought he did fine. And he had a funny moment near the end when NSH delayed taking a CK and he had to wait for somebody to actually go toward the ball to have a player to caution for delay
Montréal's second goal tonight is an interesting offside case that went to review and ended up standing as a goal. I think it's offside by interfering with an opponent, but I don't think I ever saw an angle from behind either goal, and I would wager that was the sticking point vis à vis proving impact on the goalkeeper, at least in the eyes of the referee.
ABC announcers say no VAR for this game (LAFC-NYRB) due to communication problems between Atlanta and the stadium. It seems like it was inevitable that this would happen eventually
A similar thing happened to Elfath’s game in Kansas City a few months ago. There, functionality was also restored after a few minutes.
I can't recall one... He pushed an NYCFC player away from the Philly player on the ground at least twice and then said a few things on the way off and(when the red card was shown). Did he let the trainer finish attending to the injured player then show the red card or was it for the additional confrontation on the way off the field?
this game really melted down. I suspect at least 7 or 8 mins maybe 10 of stoppage time [only 6, I am a bit surprised]
I guess I was asking would he let the trainer stay on if he was going to send him off? Not like he is irreplaceable - I don't think he was a neurosurgeon but I suppose I could be wrong.
The final thing that set him (the trainer) off was that Castellanos pushed him and said something while he was still kneeling next to the player who was down.
If it was any other team, you would guess the trainer objected to something Acevedo may have said and somewhat defended his actions. If you watch this guy in other Union games when there's an injury, he and the assistant trainer trot out like a bouncers in a bar and clearly love the attention (I think the fist bumps with the fans on the way to the locker room gives that away). https://www.mlssoccer.com/video/red...union-head-trainer-paul-rushing-gets-sent-off
All that may be true, but Acevedo getting out of all that without a card is pretty amazing. I think the Union players, at the end of that clip, were saying he should have seen red for the push to the throat/face. I think many would say they have a point. Not on Villarreal given all that was going on. But I’m wondering if the VAR team missed that, felt it didn’t quite reach the clearly wrong threshold, or finessed some other standard given the totality of events.
The players are always going to be given more slack than a trainer. If the referee had to give red cards for that little scuffle the coaches would be on the phone with PRO immediately regardless of what a trainer did or didn't do. I find it fascinating people in other places going "Well the players did this, so they deserve red cards too!" Just seems like they've never managed anything above a 7/11.
This issue isn't involvement "in a little scuffle" or any broad comparison to what the trainer did (or even the idea that there can or cannot be different standards). The issue is very specifically what Acevedo did at 0:22-0:24 in the video linked to above. He puts his hand on an opponent's neck/chin and pushes it back with some force. I don't think we will get PRO's opinion on this one, because of the totality of events and highlighting this aspect just isn't good for business (whether they think it was the right or the wrong call). But I wish we would. Because knowing exactly what is and what isn't "clear violent conduct" in the video age is very, very helpful to aspiring referees. This is the type of thing we want punished with consistency and we don't want referees in, say, USL, over-punishing or under-punishing this. It's a forceful hand to an area above the shoulders, but it's not necessarily a throat grab and it isn't to the face. But it does make the opponent's head jerk back. So is there enough grey area here that makes it not a clear red? Or was this a miss by the VAR? That's an answer that I think is very useful for officials who work and who want to work at the professional level.