Ukraine v Russia II

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  1. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    The FT's Ukraine page is un-paywalled and the editor Max Seddon has a good twitter page for following Moscow based news.
     
  2. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    This Russian yoot soldier won't be the only one

     
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  3. Yoshou

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    Russia's ever shrinking offensive goals from March to today.

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  4. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    Good find...



    I just hope he's right in all that.
     
  5. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    I tried accessing the FT's Ukraine page and it said I still needed to have a paid account from what I could see, Also, I'm not on twitter of FB. I'll check it later though.
     
  6. In that Bellingcat interview desertion was mentioned to be high and verified by the number of soldiers publicly prosecuted.
     
  7. Well, when do we see the blue arrows showing them legging out of the hornets nest?
     
  8. Brilliant Dutch

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  9. The Jitty Slitter

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  10. Yoshou

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    Depends what they mean by war.. Russia is not pulling out of the terrain they currently control, even if they get a new regime.. The only way this ends in a year is if Ukraine gives up on taking their territory back, or they figure out how to undertake an offensive against an enemy that isn't retreating.
     
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  11. Boandlkramer

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    Samma Weltmeister!
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    Who TF does Macron think he is?

    He’s in no position to be “bargaining” UKR “concessions”

    FOH

     
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  12. roby

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    #1187 roby, May 13, 2022
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    Is Macron related to Marshal Petain? :unsure:
     
  13. luftmensch

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    Saw this on my drive home today, definitely agree with the sentiment. And pretty hardcore for a Lexus.

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  14. Brilliant Dutch

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    Commiecast?? That should be safe to click for most of you then :ROFLMAO:
     
  15. Yoshou

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    If the bridges aren’t working to get you actoss the Donets…. Why not just drive the tanks across the river?? Surely that will work?

     
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  16. American Brummie

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  17. Yoshou

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    I can’t imagine it is good for Russia’s economy either.. while Russia is cashing in on the large spike in prices, they have, reportedly, already filled all of their storage for oil and natural gas, so they’ll need to cut production and, of course, lay people off..
     
  18. spejic

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    It's already dropped 10%. The International Energy Agency is predicting around 30% by the end of the year.

    https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-O...ay-Fall-To-18-Year-Low-On-EU-Oil-Embargo.html
     
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  19. spejic

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    In response to their joining NATO, Russia has cut off their supply of Finland's electricity. It's around 10% of the total, so it should be made up by neighboring countries without too much difficulty, especially as it's summer and use isn't as high. A new nuclear reactor should be working in September too.
     
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  20. American Brummie

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    You said it better.
     
  21. Belgian guy

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    Macron is unfortunately also representative of the POV of a lot of big business, who want this thing resolved and wouldn't mind seeing Ukraine giving up large chunks of their territory so they can go back to doing business in and with Russia. :rolleyes:
     
  22. I remember that other oil producers like S. Ar arenot keen on upping production.
    Well, maybe some weapon exports to them should be delayed/redirected.
     
  23. Today, 82 years ago on May 14th 1940 13:27, the Luftwaffe bombed Rotterdam to pieces.
    Rotterdam before:
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    Rotterdam after:


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    Zadkine's sculpture "Verwoeste stad" symbolizes the city with it's haert ripped out:
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    Today, we Rotterdammers not only think about the victims of that day, but feel connected to the fellow harbour city of Marioepol and pay respect to the victims of the current war.
     
  24. Brilliant Dutch

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    #1199 Brilliant Dutch, May 14, 2022
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    Looks like the Russians have lost the battle of Kharkiv and have retreated back towards Russian border

    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-61441664

    Russian forces withdraw far from Kharkiv, mayor tells BBC

    The mayor of Kharkiv, Ihor Terekhov, has told the BBC that the Russians have withdrawn from the Kharkiv city area in the direction of the Russian border.

    He says that Russian troops had only ever managed to enter a small part of the key north-eastern city once, and were not there for a long time.

    "The Russians were constantly shelling Kharkiv because they were staying very close to the city. And due to the efforts of Kharkiv territorial defence and Ukrainian Armed Forces, the Russians have withdrawn out far from the city area in the direction of the Russian border,” he says.

    "Now it is calm in Kharkiv and people are gradually coming back to the city. We provide water, gas and electricity supply to all the citizens. However, unfortunately, many residential buildings are destroyed or damaged. So, in the future we will have to do huge reconstruction.

    "There was no shelling in the city for the last five days. There was only one attempt from Russians to hit the city with a missile rocket near Kharkiv airport, but the missile was eliminated by Ukrainian Air Defence."
     
  25. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    We should get Brittney back and send our Merchant of Death, Erik Prince.

    Russia is looking to exchange the WNBA star in a prisoner swap for notorious convicted arms trafficker Viktor Bout, several state-owned Russian news outlets reported Friday, citing unnamed government sources.

    Bout, whose exploits earned him the nickname the “Merchant of Death,” flooded fierce conflicts in Africa and the Middle East with weapons, U.S. authorities say. He was arrested during a sting operation in Thailand in 2008, extradited to the U.S. and sentenced to 25 years for conspiracy to kill U.S. citizens, delivery of anti-aircraft missiles and providing aid to a terrorist organization.

    https://sports.yahoo.com/russias-as...y-be-notorious-arms-trafficker-004449470.html

    In case anyone forgot about Blackwater:

    The Nisour Square massacre occurred on September 16, 2007, when employees of Blackwater Security Consulting (now Academi), a private military company contracted by the US government to provide security services in Iraq, shot at Iraqi civilians, killing 17 and injuring 20 in Nisour Square, Baghdad, while escorting a U.S. embassy convoy.The killings outraged Iraqis and strained relations between Iraq and the United States. In 2014, four Blackwater employees were tried and convicted in U.S. federal court; one of murder, and the other three of manslaughter and firearms charges; all four convicted were pardoned by President Donald Trump in December 2020.
     

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