American expansion possibilities

Discussion in 'NWSL Expansion' started by WPS_Movement, Dec 28, 2012.

  1. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    2 and half hours is long drive between the two. Enough gap that there be enough fans for both teams.
     
  2. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    IF it happens, they can play here at Memorial Stadium.
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  3. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    I'm hoping for future NWSL teams San Antonio and Austin and where they can play.
    Toyota Field in San Antonio
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    Austin Bold stadium
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  4. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    How is that "close to each other"

    I can think of any number of MLS pairs (not in the same city) that are closer. Both Raleigh-Durham and Charlotte are over 2 million pop each and I don't know of anybody that drives from Charlotte to see the Courage.
     
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  5. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Portland and Seattle are short of three hours away from each other -- more or less depending on traffic.
     
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  6. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
    So depending on the new owners of Real Salt Lake, we could have Utah and Charlotte in by 2024. Maybe for 2025 we get Oakland and Cincinnati.
     
  7. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
    The supposedly new owners for Real Salt Lake have mentioned their intentions to bring back the Royals. Let's see if and when it happens.
     
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  8. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Have they? I haven't seen any chatter of it on Twitter, and the RSL ownership thread has some posters speculating as such but no links directly saying the prospective owners are interested.
     
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  9. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
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    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
     
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  11. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Makes sense. Utah is a near lock for 2024, so I bet they'd want a 14th team by 2025 if possible. Three years to get one good expansion candidate coming to the table shouldn't be too bad. No need to go too quickly, especially with the new CBA.
     
  12. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
    Curious with the new increase in salary caps if those rumored MLS teams(Cincinnati, Austin, Minnesota, Atlanta) that once had a hint of interest in getting a NWSL team are backing off now.
     
  13. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I would be surprised if Atlanta (who's not only one of the richest MLS teams but is also backed by an NFL team) is going to be at all concerned about a salary cap increase that still keeps things well under $2mil. The others, IDK, but I'd be surprised if the salary cap increase really scares anyone off - I think anyone who was thinking of investing in NWSL was expecting the league to grow over time, after all.
     
  14. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
    Obviously Utah is #13. Cincinnati's talks come and go, but in terms of fan support, they should be #14. Atlanta and Austin, when ready, should be #15 & #16. Possibly have the NWSL at 16 teams by the 2027 season?
     
  15. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I don't have much faith in either Cincy or Atlanta. Austin is the only one of those "other three" who's shown any peep of interest recently.
     
  16. babykhris

    babykhris Member

    Philadelpia Union
    Nov 30, 2008
    Philadlphia,PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One city I never hear expansion talk about is Philadelphia. Is there any interest here???
     
  17. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Interest from who? From fans - absolutely. But from an interested ownership group? Not a peep. I think the Union sent out a single interest survey, like, four or five years ago, and that's been about it. But there's never been any hint of an interested ownership group having approached NWSL in any of the expansion rumors since NWSL was founded. The Pittsburgh Riverhounds actually tested the NWSL waters way back in the early years of the league, but that's been it from PA.
     
  18. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
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  19. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    Maybe, if they have some big investment groups to support it. Not to mention large attendances. The stadium they are playing has a capacity for 5500.
     
  20. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Any chance? Sure, there's always a chance. But this is a W League team, not even a Super League team, so despite the amount of professionalism they're giving to the team in the ramp to launch, I don't see them having any higher ambitions at all.
    Large attendances (or rather, the lack of) don't matter, just the ownership group. And the ownership group seems too disperse (it's a community-owned team) to have the clout for higher ambitions.
     
  21. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005


    So potentially Bay Area/Oakland and Utah Royals for 2024?
     
  22. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    That is... probably one of the most-thinly-written articles I've ever seen on ESPN.

    I would believe there's respectable expansion interest; I have trouble believing the "overwhelming" part. We thought we had "overwhelming" expansion interest after the 2015 WWC, when there was talk of going form 9 to 14 in just three or four years (which is still insane, and I'm glad it didn't happen that fast). If we add two pairs of team in '24 and '26... that would sound appropriate to me.

    Also, please NAME DROP. It's not very convincing to say "oh there's lots of interest" with no means of corroboration.
     
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  23. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
    NYCFC expansion team? Doubt they'd play at Yankees stadium just due to scheduling constraints.

     
  24. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Article doesn't mention NYCFC at all. In fact, it seems more like an NY-based site asking the commish if there's a possibility of a second NY-based team (because that's their readership) rather than her giving any hints that there's interest there. Newsday is based in Long Island, so Red Bull Arena is definitely a bit of a trek for them.
     

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