Official 2022+ Samurai Blue thread

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Samurai Warrior, Jan 7, 2022.

  1. HTCONEM8

    HTCONEM8 Member+

    AC Milan
    May 16, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    After today's results, KSA might not play to their fullest against Japan in their upcoming match; even if they lose, they would still remain on top. Good news for JNT, I guess.
     
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  2. KATO

    KATO Member

    Nov 26, 2011
    Manchester
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Of course, Nagatomo is one of the greats of Japanese football. Playing so many years at the elite European level and captaining Inter Milan etc.

    But this obviously doesn’t save him from scrutiny when he plays badly and doesn’t guarantee he can start for the JNT forever.

    He represents everything wrong with Moriyasu. Just making a team based on their “name”, being afraid or too stupid to experiment on fresh faces.
     
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  3. Kakeru

    Kakeru Member+

    Manchester United
    Japan
    Feb 22, 2016
    Montréal, QC, Canada
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Bob Barker has an opinion on Osako:
     
  4. mushu21_2

    mushu21_2 Member

    Manchester United
    Vietnam
    Sep 1, 2018
    Problem is, assuming they'll get the result against China, they won't need to play their fullest against Australia too, even at home.
     
  5. HTCONEM8

    HTCONEM8 Member+

    AC Milan
    May 16, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    True.
    The only thing that puts them on the edge is China beating them which I really don't see it happening.
    But, something tells me we won't know the qualified teams up until the last round and KSA would drop points eventually.
     
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  6. HTCONEM8

    HTCONEM8 Member+

    AC Milan
    May 16, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    #56 HTCONEM8, Feb 1, 2022
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2022
    The starting lineup:

    Shuichi Gonda
    Hiroki Sakai
    Yuto Nagatomo
    Shogo Taniguchi
    Ko Itakura
    Wataru Endo
    Hidemasa Morita
    Ao Tanaka
    Junya Ito
    Takumi Minamino
    Yuya Osako

    As expected, Moriyasu does not disappoint. He's as stubborn as always.
    Undecided if I still want to watch the game :(
     
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  7. gamban98

    gamban98 Member

    Dec 7, 2013
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nagatomo in the line-up again? What a terrible day to have eyes. ******** Moriyasu.
     
  8. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
    Club:
    JEF United Ichihara
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Can anyone give me a stream? All I got is some Russian one...
     
  9. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Ito is goldworth :).

    My Stream is down. Anyone habe any Stream please :)?
     
  10. HTCONEM8

    HTCONEM8 Member+

    AC Milan
    May 16, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    HT: 1-0 for Japan.
    I hope they would go for more goals to secure the victory. The match is tight and it can go both ways.
     
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  11. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Ito is a genius, love him.
     
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  12. HTCONEM8

    HTCONEM8 Member+

    AC Milan
    May 16, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    #62 HTCONEM8, Feb 1, 2022
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2022
    Haha..
    I guess the more you vent on forums, the better the outcome will be.
    Overall, a good performance against the group's top team at the moment. Now, on to Australia!
    And yeah! Junya Ito is a beast.
     
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  13. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Dear God,

    thank you for creating Junya Ito.

    Yours,
    Dax
     
  14. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    So Ito saved Japan today? Good result.
     
  15. HTCONEM8

    HTCONEM8 Member+

    AC Milan
    May 16, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    My wildest scenario that I imagine it might happen is: KSA loses or draws against China and Japan draws against Australia which makes the final round more interesting :geek:
     
  16. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    China losing against Vietnam now. Never have I seen a team with so much resources and money not develop a single cm year after year. Tragic.
     
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  17. Testator

    Testator Member+

    Glasgow Celtic
    Croatia
    Sep 5, 2017
    Croatian coast
    It is a weird thing to practice defensive World Cup tactics against Saudi Arabia. But in itself, being a defensive manager at the WC is not a bad thing. However, Japan must never try a deep block. Rather, a mid-line block at least, to avoid being bombarded by crosses. Pressing forwards like Maeda or Furuhashi should play, at the expense of a midfielder (I know Osako is going to play) to help disrupt the build-up. This should frustrate posession-oriented teams.
     
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  18. Kanarienvogel

    Kanarienvogel Member

    Nov 15, 2019
    ONly saw the second half, looked good, fast start, score the 2-0, then always in control. Again IMO looked better than vs the weaker teams.
    Will see the first half later on youtube.

    Still no reason to keep Moriyasu...Big change vs Australia, then he started using substitutes earlier, both looked good, but now he's basically in some sort of pre-programmed mode to do the same formation and substitutions at roughly the same time each match. Are we sure he's actually human and not some badly programmed robot? Today Minamino should have come out at least 10 minutes earlier, was obvious he didn't have much energy left, but clearly that wasn't in the Moriyasu program, so he stayed in while clearly tired. Moriyasu's lack of flexibility is incredible. And doubt his game plan will work as well in the WC, if Japan qualifies, which they should now. It works best vs team at the SA-Australia level I fear. Vs weaker teams harder to get chances based on speed, vs stronger teams remains to be seen, but I fear the defence won't hold well enough, and once Japan is behind... hard to come back with a game based on speed alone. Hopefully I'll be proven wrong. Anyway, thanks to the bot we already know who start vs Australia, and who will be called up basically too. Central defence in, Mitoma and Furuhashi in most likely, ah.. not sure who will be out. Logic would be Doan+Asano, but Moriyasu isn't going to drop Asano...

    And while Ito had a good 1,5 games (didn't see the first half, so might be 2) he's still an utter mediocrity, but now starter until 2040 probably. What made him good vs China was that he hardly attempted any dribblings, no Ito-dance followed by him losing control of the ball, and he was passing instead of crossing. Since his crosses tend to go directly into opponents legs or anywhere, but nowhere near another Japanese way too regularly..
    Today outstanding goal and excellent pass to Minamino after his high speed run. Low pass. Finally figured out what he's good at, low passes. Now if he manages to be off the embarrassing dribbling attempts (when it's not on speed) and high crosses, I have no problem with starting him. But I'm convinced at the WC his weaknesses will be exposed again, if Japan is behind vs some second/third tier team with a good defence.

    As for everybody's darling, Nagatomo, what made him horrible today? Second half he looked good to me until the program asked for his substitution. And can't refrain from mentioning that Nakayama was pretty bad today... after he came on some sort of highway opened up on the left side. And offensively... cute little frustration jump after losing the ball, instead of running back immediately. WEll, not so good games happen... but imagine it happened to Nagatomo...

    Biggest + of the day: Uchida commentating. Less cheerleading time for Matsuki and he's a joy too listen too, he knows what he's talking about. Which isn't always true for ex players either...But 4 guys IMO too many...
     
  19. HTCONEM8

    HTCONEM8 Member+

    AC Milan
    May 16, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Haha
    Fun fact, The Japanese National team are known in the Middle East as "The Computer Team/A.I. Team" :ROFLMAO:
     
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  20. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Junya Ito is not medicore he is very very good almost every game.

    He has round about 30 scorerpoints this season for Genk and JNT and the season is only on half time.

    He delivers every year. A real joy to watch.
     
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  21. Kakeru

    Kakeru Member+

    Manchester United
    Japan
    Feb 22, 2016
    Montréal, QC, Canada
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Junya Ito is one of the most solid players in the Belgian league. If people took time to watch him or the league, I think some bigger clubs would have gone for him by now, especially when right wingers are in demand for whatever reason.

    In any case, it's a really huge win today. Hopefully that will sets us up in the right mindset ahead of the final stretch towards qualification. It matters little as to how and more as to how many at this stage.
     
  22. HTCONEM8

    HTCONEM8 Member+

    AC Milan
    May 16, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    There goes my wishes for a dramatic, last gasp, three-way race final round.
    Australia now need to win at home against Japan and away against Saudi Arabia and hope goal difference be in their favor. Not impossible but I have my doubts they can do it.
     
  23. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    #73 Dax, Feb 1, 2022
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2022
    Oman - Australia 2-2.

    Recap of the situation:

    Saudi 19, Japan 18, Aussie 15

    Let's assume the Saudi beat China next round, they go to 22.
    Then there's Japan - Australia: if Japan wins, they are qualified and Australia is 3rd.
    If Japan draws, they go to 19 and Australia to 16. But since the last round is Japan - Vietnam, it's very likely still enough to qualify.

    If Japan loses, it's Saudi 22, Japan 18, Aussie 18. With Aussie having a goal difference that will be at very least +4 over Japan.
    And, the last round it will be Saudi - Australia, but with the Saudi already qualified and playing for nothing. So if both Japan and Australia win, Japan will be 3rd.

    tl;dr Japan needs at least one point from the next game
     
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  24. gunitinug

    gunitinug Member

    Sep 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    @Dax yep you are correct. just a point in the next game vs australia will probably be enough to secure the second place.
     
  25. KATO

    KATO Member

    Nov 26, 2011
    Manchester
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Nagatomo played a great game. I hope he plays like this every game after being criticised by the media and fans so much last week.

    Whatever happens against Australia, I’m not convinced they’ll beat an already-qualified Saudi Arabia.

    No one likes to lose a WCQ at home especially against an AFC rival (their last game against Australia was quite heated), they have a proud home record to defend.
     
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