German Fraulein National Team 2020 & beyond

Discussion in 'Germany Mädels: NT and Frauen-Bundesliga' started by hotjam2, Feb 26, 2020.

  1. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    She seems to be the only one passing over the middle while the other players tend to pass to the outside. Not saying its poorly made decision, they made many chances doing that way but couldn't convert or finish. Not to mention that penalty in the first half.
     
  2. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I only watched the first half & thought Germany looked hopelessly stuck in first gear. So whether it was by design or not, the blame falls 100% to their coach, MVT. We’ve seen similar 1st half in the previous Serbian match. but at least woke up or MVT stopped experimenting & let them play in the 2nd half(as they scored 5 times).

    meantime watched the England vs Northern Ireland matched coached by Sabrina Wiegman, played at an much more frenzied, blistering pace & you can see the results as the NI players barely could get to the ball/or even if the had the ball, it was stolen right from under them by the hustling Lioness

    but back to the match; got to say, Israel wasn’t bunkering & brought their backline a bit up, giving MVT an window of opportunity to high ball it over(as there was some space behind the back line to work with) but very, if feeble attempts were made to take advantage of it
     
  3. Thomsen

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    The movement is also terrible and the players don't seem to understand their role on the pitch... supported by Martina screaming all match long, instructing her players to do whatever she's got in her mind
     
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  4. hotjam2

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    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    return match with Isreal today, shoiuld be be shown on ARD tv/stream(it be geo blocked for me). All I can say is I know who Batfink really wishes would be coaching the team
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  5. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member+

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  6. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany

    Israel`s second highest defeat in their last 42 games. So please nobody complain that it wasn`t a 12:0:unsure: although it would have been possible if the many chances in the second half had been better used.
     
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  7. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member+

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  8. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Definitely shifted gear up an couple notches, as well as pressed an heck of a lot more than the first game. Leupolz & Freigang way more active & aggressive as starters than Marozsan & Schuller were in the first match. Marozsan will be holding the team back if she continues instead of Leupolz, she often seems stagnant in there.
    Feel Germany still needs to work on getting their attackers more open space to work with. All the goals came in crowded/close quarters & though they were nice passing goals, it’s still was against an easy team.
     
  9. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member+

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
     
  10. hotjam2

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    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    WOW Germany got by far the toughest group! Why were 3 group qualifier winners placed in the same group?

    Spain seems to be nearly everyone’s pre favorite. Denmark could be an easy dark horse candidate (all their up & coming players remind me of pre -2017 Holland). Finland don’t got big names, but their athleticism could get them past MVT faves Oberdorf & Hegering(if they are the starting CB’s)

    Guess the only good thing is MVT will be canned if she can’t get her team out of group play
     
  11. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member+

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    All four teams have won their qualifying group! Euro 2022 qualifier are only responsible for 40% of the UEFA coefficient. World Cup 2019 and qualifier have 40% while Euro 2017 and qualifier have 20%.
    If would be more likely if Germany don`t qualify for the quarterfinal from an easy group.
     
  12. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Like I said... Germany drew 0-0...:whistling:;)

    Highlighting the similarities in the recent awful 0-1 victory over Israel, this Jones era match against Hungary left many of the same negative feelings with me.

    MVT really isn't any better than Jones.
     
  13. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Blissett seems to know enough to understand just how much this Germany team still punching below their actually weight class.

    I have given up waiting for anything positive to happen anymore. I'm just waiting for the inevitable next tournament failure, followed by even worse decisions being made on the wnt's future leadership.
     
  14. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Everything I'm seeing doesn't create a narrative where this team has any genuine chance for success under MVT. And I still believe it's going to be Ariane Hingst who's next in line to replace her post Euro's flop too.

    So 4 Years after WC failure... MVT still hasn't established a new team, with there being no sign of her addressing persistent concerns with defense, and the mid-field; meaning Germany are all set to go to another tournament, without there being any genuine plan for improvements, that would help obtaining success over a 4 year period...:speechless:

    You can just feel it... everyone knows there's serious problems with the wnt, but it's like your supposed to ignore it, while people who could make a difference are forced not to address it.
     
  15. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    GOOD! If Germany hope to accomplish anything, they'll need to prove it to themselves, as much as everyone else. Meaning the tougher the competition, the better.

    No easy matches, nowhere to hide. We will finally see If MVT can create a scenario where her awful practices actually help these players navigate the group stages.

    If Germany enter this tournament with Däbritz - Marozsan in the same mid-field, or use any of Oberdorf, Lattwein, Feldkamp, as the teams CB's, you can forget Germany making it out of the group stage.

    The idea Germany's senior team headed into major international tournaments now with little hope of challenging for the trophy, always sounds ridiculous to me; but knowing their history within the Euro finals, thinking they have a realistic chance not even escaping the group stage...:speechless:
     
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  16. hotjam2

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    Nov 23, 2012
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    Real Madrid
    #616 hotjam2, Oct 30, 2021
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2021
    That game vs Hungary(maybe late 2016)was essentially an B squad, with only Kemme & Mittag started on the Olympic team(though here Mittag is experimenting with being an AM.
    To be fair some of them became regular starters under Jones. But looking at that back line Doursoon-Peter-Henning-Blasse, and the the two fwds, Kayiki-Petermann…..and you can see MVT has so much more to work with.
    Kemme still only 30 years old, but retired officially in early 2020, she never could come from an ACL two year previous to that.
    This was essentially an problem with German woso last decade; a lot of injuries(Kemme, Kessler, Bremer, Lotzen, Kulig)& than some retiring since the low paychecks wasn’t worth coming back(could add as well early retirements for Alushi & Sasic). And than notice the retirement of Hungary’s Jakobfi though she just turned 30 & was WOB’s leafing scorer last season)

    So a lot of other countries have as well problems of early retirements to do woso’s ridiculous low pay, but Germany’s stuck defending its high #2 ranking
     
  17. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Since it was his first flop(2018 WC), Jorgie didn’t get immediately fired. but noticed how quickly he was outta there after his 2nd flop?(euro 2021). So MVT would have two flops(unless her idiot bosses didn’t think bowing out in the quarters isn’t a flop for the #2 ranked team in the world)

    If your superstitious; Spain’s woso NT has flopped their last four major tournaments …..but so has everybody else flopped who they met in group play in all four of those major tournies(Germany 2019, was the only team to make passes the first round playoffs)

    so albatross hanging above everybody that plays Spain?…. or does everybody just gets too exhausted chasing the ball from their tiki tacky, over passing?
     
  18. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    #618 Batfink, Oct 30, 2021
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2021
    Seriously... this isn't even amusing anymore. HUNGARY!

    All those asinine excuses, for a senior German wnt performing against a weak opponent so horrendously, they needed an own goal to beat HUNGARY...:confused::speechless::thumbsdown:

    Is this the same awful logic people willing to use now, whenevr deflecting criticism anybody show for MVT's even worse efforts coaching these women...?
     
  19. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Most coaches don't/won't engage the tactical battle with Spain's mid-field. And this is where Germany will be exposed if they head to the Euro's with MVT's persistently horrible tactics, and perplexing team selections.

    Germany have the players to effectively neutralize Spain's desire to dominate possession of the ball, but I don't believe MVT has the coaching ability to not only select the correct players, but to also formulate the tactical approach to allow her players to compete with the Spain's impressive pass and move philosophy.

    Anyway, MVT's going to face Spain prior to the Euro's in a friendly, and then you'll see for yourself exactly what I'm talking about...:coffee:
     
  20. Klingo3034

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    Oct 11, 2019
    When is that friendly?
     
  21. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
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    Real Madrid
    It’s a spring mini tourney(around the time of SBC) featuring Germany, England & Spain
     
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  22. Klingo3034

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    Oct 11, 2019
    That will be interesting to watch for sure! Whose the 4th?
     
  23. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member+

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Probably the Netherlands.
     
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  24. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    any confirmation on this? Wiegman’ would know the Dutch inside out, so it would be best for the Holland to avoid playing them unless they absolutely got to

    still don’t get how England got such an easy group schedule? They did not have to qualify. Their only ranked #8 by FIFA(4th in Europe)They’ve lost their last two matches to #10 Spain. If they qualified as the last #1 seed(fair enough) than the 2nd tier opponent should of been(just below them) Spain. Instead they get the rather easy Norway, plus arguably the two weakest teams to qualify for the Euros; Austria & N Ireland

    Something tells me it’s fixed that England will win the Euros
     
  25. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member+

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    England would have to play a team from the Germany group in quarterfinal and Netherlands or Sweden in the semifinal. Austria is weaker than Russia, Belgium or Finland?:cautious:

    Nothing official about the Netherlands yet. During one of the games against Israel it was mentioned that they will be likely the fourth team.
     

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