Not surprised about Maryland either. Leone was 27-60-19 overall, 9-43-10 in Big Ten. But he was really handcuffed his first 2-3 years. Maryland administration handled that 2016 hire terribly with how long they waited and lots of kids that Jon Morgan recruited ended up jumping ship before Leone got there. Leone's cupboard was pretty bare when he arrived and it takes a while to recover from that. But having said all that the program should have shown more growth in year 6 than an 0-7-3 Big Ten record. Tracy Leone is wonderful person and coach in her own right and hopefully the Leone family will be all right through all of the transition. Sometimes I wonder if it really makes sense to jump to a "bigger" stage. I think Leone would have continued to do well at Harvard had he stayed there. Feel the same way about Barnes at GW before going to Miami, or Adams at Rice before she went to Syracuse. Agreed about LMU. That program is capable of doing well. 1-7-1 in the spring, and now 0-16 ouch. Should be able to win a couple games just with some luck.
Yes, perhaps it is CM or a close relative! My impression exactly, details are too close to home for it not to be!
The Creighton coach never played WOMEN's college soccer. That is a significant quality that these female coaches have. The Creighton coach is the most brazen example of the good 'ol boys club. In fact, I saw an internal email the AD wrote and inadvertently copied a candidate on. He said he was hiring his guy no matter what, when it was brought to his attention that his guy did not meet the minimum qualifications.
Sounds like you’re just not a fan of men in general. Playing college soccer is not a prerequisite to being a successful coach whatsoever.
That is all you have in response to my full message? You omitted a bit. And, yes, actually having played on a women's college team certainly would give one great experience and insight when coaching females.
Please feel free to take the gender stuff to another thread. I think you'll find one here if you look. Been discussed ad naseum. This is exactly correct from @SoccerTrustee I talked recently about 'fit' in a program for the coach just like for the players. Leone is a Maryland guy with a good resume but it was poor timing and his skillset at that career stage was not suited to the task at UMD. His quote in the release showed some class. Those other examples are also a caution to the good mid-major coach out there looking to move up. UMD could and should be better but there are no guarantees. They will look for folks like the kind you mentioned but my bet is still that Shannon will come back. KY has the same kinds of challenges, that is- a nearly total rebuild in a super tough P5 conference, but in a bit worse soccer area.
You are correct, but when it comes to this particular forum and who will be a candidate for a position and why the gender aspect of the hire is relevant. For example, I would say there is a possibility that Maryland and Kentucky will look to hire female candidates regardless of who is interested. So that is relevant to this forum. Anson himself could have applied for Wyoming or Colorado State and not gotten a look at either. When it comes to the back and forth comments about gender I do recall there is a thread for that so thanks for the reminder!
I get it. Just becoming like we are reading 2 threads at the same time. And right when seats are actually getting hot! For UMD, they've gone for the big name HC before and not closed the deal. We could make a list of good mid-major coaches, as they should be, to consider or go after - Navy, UCF, USF, VCU, SLU, etc. I don't think they will get a legit proven female P5 HC like Izzo-Brown but you never know. The stability of many D1 conferences is in question right now and there are folks out there with ties to schools or regions that surprise you. Leone was one of those for UMD. If I was in charge, I'd offer Dave Nolan right there at Georgetown whatever he wanted and do it asap. Joe Mallia at Loyola would also be a great local and safe choice. What I predict will happen, is they will spin their wheels with several candidates and Shannon will just be there in the end to take it. If you just want a proven player, I think Carli Lloyd is available. I mean they already call UMD the College of NJ-South! She could bring Meg Ryan from Rutgers with her, who should also be a candidate. All total speculation folks! Which I believe is still what the hotseat thread is about.
As long as persons who have no idea about what goes into specific hiring decisions for these head roles make absurd claims that deserving coaches are only hired because of their sex or gender, you're going to have to put up with me refuting it.
We can move the gender discussion to the appropriate thread if you like but it’s widely known that Colorado state, Arizona and Wyoming were firm in their decision to only hire a female. Colorado State hired a firm to headhunt a female head coach; they contact female assistants from WVU, Gonzaga, Cal, and Texas (obviously). No males. I am not saying the Colorado state coach doesn’t deserve the position as she has extensive experience as an assistant I’m just saying the hire was going to be a female at all costs. If a mod wants to shift this post to the appropriate thread I’m totally good with it.
I think there is a way to request a mod to move posts I’m just not sure how. For the younger generations to figure out. Looking at the Maryland gig any thoughts as to if Meg Ryan would be a candidate for the position? I would assume Akron will be opening in the next month. They were poor under the previous coach and seem to have gotten worse since 2015.
Expecting to hear an Atlantic 10 job open soon. As for the Terps if Shannon Higgins-Ciroski wants the job then I think this process would be pretty quick for Maryland. Sasho just tells AD Evans to hire his wife and then would imagine it's a done deal. She did relatively well in the 6 years she was the head coach there previously and that would be a good hire for them should she come back. If not, then I agree coaches at VCU, Navy, and Loyola could and should get looks. Mallia has big time experience from his time at UCLA so that gives him an edge. Or Maryland could interview Meg Ryan from Rutgers, Katie Shields from St. Louis, or the WVU assistants. They always get looks and interviews and then end up turning down the offer anyway and just waste time for all involved. My guess is if Higgins-Cirovski wants it Maryland can move on that quick and make a good hire.
Anson should not get any jobs in soccer. Lucky to have the ones he has now in the current climate after the lawsuit he settled.
Guess there is some truth to this after all…ULM forfeits all their non conference games, because of ineligible players. I think it was one of the players that came from Lincoln memorial with him. Wonder why she was deemed ineligible, don’t see these type of things often. So ULM now has a poor record with loses against many swac teams due to the forfeits.
Can’t say I’m overly surprised. Arizona finally won a conference game yesterday. Impressive how quickly that program has gone down hill.
The player in question graduated high school n 2012. Now "high school" in different countries potentially means very different things than in the US. Additionally, she had previously been at another institution prior to LMU and she was a junior in 2019 (at LMU) so she would've lost the year regardless of COVID to the second transfer (unless they found some other waiver). Seems to be a lot of questions overall regarding this whole situation. Bottom line, someone messed up.
Evans has nothing to do with this hire. Shawn Flynn is heading up the search committee. Great guy, soccer guy. Know him pretty well
Chris McLain of Villanova resigns... https://villanova.com/news/2021/10/...s-as-villanovas-head-womens-soccer-coach.aspx
This bigger issue here is that the Creighton coach had ZERO collegiate coaching experience and was at a super small club he started in TN. Didn't surround himself with good seasoned coaches either who understood how to recruit or have established networks. He recruited his family who weren't capable of playing there, then moves them into a staff coaching position year later - what do you think the players thought of that? Program is in shambles, best player last year transferred to TCU and she had a freaking Jays tattoo on her lip - it was her dream school to attend.