They Needed a Minivan but Got a Gio: Reyna at Nottingham Forest (Olf Borussia Dortmund)

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  1. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    When Pulisic is out we get Arriola. So it's pretty clear who we most need to be available in November.
     
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  2. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
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    GB plays Gio at RW most of the time... I see CP's backup as Aaronson. All that being said... I would prefer that GB play Gio at the 8 or 10.
     
  3. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    If Gio is a wide player then he is a bench player. He just is not good enough at the position to displace Pulisic, Aaronson or Weah (or, in Gregg's eyes, Arriola). If he is an 8/10 then he is in the conversation for a starting spot with guys like Musah, McKennie, and Busio. Either way, we can play without Reyna better than we can play without Pulisic at the moment.
     
  4. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just agree to disagree.
     
  5. golazo68

    golazo68 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 21, 2004
    Brazil
    Ideally, Pulisic, Musah, Reyna, McKinnie can all be on the field and not static and all alternating in the middle and wide (at times) that would be Berhalter's coup de grace if he pull this off- because IMO that would be the best use of their abilities and youth. However, I think that requires a higher-level coach to incorporate this to be honest. Given Gregg, we may have to stay with the more static designations, which leads to a lot of either/or's in the lineup.

    Yes, Reyna's best position is clearly central of park, with some defensive responsibilities- but providing
    a main link to attack, and getting forward as well. But also empowered to be able to push wide on occasion and have Pulisic or Musah play that central role in the middle.

    Same thing for his club. He has to bide his time, but the Reus position is his ideal one.
     
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  6. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    There ya go.

    ----------------Weah-----------Pulisic-------
    ------------------------Reyna-------
    -----------Musah--------------McKennie-----
    -----------------------Adams-----
    ---Jedi----------------------------------------Dest-----
    ------------Robinson------Richards----
    -----------------------Steffen------
     
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  7. golazo68

    golazo68 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 21, 2004
    Brazil
    Swap Pepi for Weah and put in hyphenated Richards/Brooks
    and coach the prime 5 attackers to play total football, switching positions often
    (and include Dest and Jedi sometimes picking spots to bomb flanks) and I would love it.....
     
  8. frankburgers

    frankburgers Member+

    May 31, 2016
    Wrong lol.
     
  9. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Egg's system uses three guys in midfield, two wingers/wide forwards, and a striker. No #10.
     
  10. Fat&Old

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    Whoever americans play for
    United States
    Aug 19, 2021
    Pepi for weah and this is our best XI imo.

     
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  11. Fat&Old

    Fat&Old Member

    Whoever americans play for
    United States
    Aug 19, 2021
    Also, appologies. I thought I was in the N&A forum.
     
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  12. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
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  13. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
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    I like it. When you have no true 9, don’t bother playing with one. Get your best players on the field.
     
  14. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In the running for the Golden Boy award:

     
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  15. wrench

    wrench Member+

    May 12, 2007
    NYC
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    Arsenal FC
    Only one. Yank? We need more young Yanks in Europe!!
     
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  16. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That list looks really similar to my FIFA career mode roster. Buy 'em when they're young and cheaper.
     
  17. golazo68

    golazo68 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 21, 2004
    Brazil
    I see Reyna's biggest strength as playing between the lines. For that, he needs to play a lot more centrally.

    The greatest example being the goal against PSG. He was barely 17 at the time.
    Go see the tape of how well he did in that situation.

    But you can see it in other games as well. He has uncanny ability to find the gaps, turn quickly and advance, and play a great ball while being closed down at pace- a ball with precision and the right amount of pace. He is lethal like this.

    As a winger, his ability to affect the game are unnecessarily limited. The touchline as a defender. That limits his space & options as does the offside rule. As does the angles on the field available as a winger. He is also dependent on someone else making the right pass to him, at the right time- when he is actually the one of the best on his team to do that very same thing (pass).

    To me, his is more like the American version of Zidane who should be conducting the orchestra centrally. Force team to collapse on him in the middle which will create space for his wingbacks on Dortmund or USMNT. Even in tighter spaces, he is careful with ball and can still create and spring attacks.

    If a team does not collapse on him and plays him straight up- he's going to kill you with finding the gaps and his precision in passing and/or shooting from top of box with power and accuracy. As well, playing more centrally with take advantage of his abilities as strong in 1v1 duels.

    Offensively, let him trail plays and blasts shot from top of box when defense overshifts on his teammates. He is not a Dempsey-type late arriver in box, but more as a top-of-box option on attacks.

    Shame Reus still seems to have something in tank. It is halting Reyna's progression in taking over this role on Dortmund. If I were PSG or Man City or Madrid, I would try to acquire Haaland and Reyna and take the bet that they will be the world's best 1-2 combo centrally for next 10 years. Literally whatever they spend on those 2 will be well amortized, IMO, over the years.
     
  18. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    If we're to have a #10 going forward (unlikely, Berhalter doesn't play with a #10), Reyna is much more likely to fit the role than Pulisic.

    To play centrally at the top level he needs to develop strength, and learn to guard the ball. It's doable. He's only 18.
     
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  19. golazo68

    golazo68 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 21, 2004
    Brazil
    Are we talking about Reyna? He's sturdy and guards the ball well. Very especially for his age.
    He will only go from good>>to very good>> (to possibly) great in this.
     
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  20. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Yes, he's good at it already.

    But we want top class, don't we?
     
  21. USA-Zebuel

    USA-Zebuel Member+

    Mar 26, 2013
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    Colón de Santa Fe
    This works better anyways. Reyna as the 10 and CP on the left.
     
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  22. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Dest has a better case than some on that list.
     
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  23. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hmm. Not sure he’s a true “10”, but what team plays with a 10 anymore? He’s got bite on defense and can play the ball back in the midfield, farther away from opponents goal than you usually see a 10. Maybe an 8/10 hybrid. I also think he could do well as a second striker, playing alle spalle. Regardless, it’s in the middle- he has remarkable strength on the ball and amazing vision for his age.
     
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  24. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
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    First thing I noticed with him is how great he is on the tirn in either direction. Hope he gets healthy soon.
     
  25. Nastrabrahmus

    Nastrabrahmus Member+

    Mar 29, 2012
    San Diego, CA
    Not in the squad this morning. So much for back after the break
     
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