Bundesliga 2021/22- 22 women chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end a German team wins

Discussion in 'Germany Mädels: NT and Frauen-Bundesliga' started by Lohmann, Jul 1, 2021.

  1. Bauser

    Bauser Member+

    Dec 23, 2000
    Norway
    Club:
    Fredrikstad FK
    Nicole Billa is top class. I feel she is a bit underrated internationally. Consistent top performer for some years in the Bundesliga now.
     
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  2. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    #552 hotjam2, Oct 10, 2021
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2021
    here's the full Bayern HOF replay. As usual, the HOF coach seems to want to play two completely different halves; Unfortunately te first half looks bad as he plays them with 4 central mids, double fwds, but no wingers. Naturely Bayern dominates the half. Finally a more sensible configuration in the 2nd half which helps HOF gain more possession. But the injured Buehler at first doesn't get replaced by another CB, causing to give up another goal.
    Still don't get why Batfink don't feel Dallmann should be in his projected, 23 player Euro squad; she's easily the mvp of this match with two steals that lead to the Schulller goals/leading teh fast break leads to the 3rd
     
  3. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Potsdam beomes alive today with their 5-0 victory over Bremen 3rd one by Chiemilski might just be goals of the season so far/Cerci picking up her game
     
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  4. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Yes... and judging from her new role and vastly improved performances as a forward, I'm going to stand by my take on Roord's continued irrelevancy within Wolfsburg's mid-field plans...:whistling:

    She's not a #10, she's not a DM. But she's come to Wolfsburg as a box to box CM, when the club already has 2 impressive candidates for that role. It was gamble trying Roord as a forward, but a gamble that seems to have worked out perfectly judging her back to back scoring performances, no?

    I mean, as a CM she only got in the way of others, but as a forward within Wolfsburg's team I feel like she's got a more defined role for her attributes to function now; honestly... her attributes as a forward being very reminiscent of Freigang.

    But it was Rauch, and then Janssen, who failed to make simply clearances on both Chelsea's second half goals. Wedemeyer actually having a very solid individual performance as CB in that match, and probably combining alongside Janssen better than Hendrich - Janssen Vs. Bordeaux...:cautious:
     
  5. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    ...:confused: So, constantly seeing comparisons to the English league, based around opinions the Bundesliga weak, because a strong Bayern finally emerge, and win the league once over a 5 YEARS of 2nd place finishes. Or reading baseless comments where you suggest English clubs continue stealing Bundesliga talent, is just me interpreting stuff incorrectly.. OK.

    You even picked the two English clubs your favorites to win the WUCL lol.

    After criticizing them for weeks, I'm finally giving credit to a strong Wolfsburg performance; where they turn a poor start, into a performance they can feel genuinely disappointed not to end the game with a convincing victory. You reply...

    "let’s not get ahead of ourselves; both Wassmuth’s goals came from ‘blind long balls’(yep, that same blind long balls that put Gold medals around Canadian shoulders! lol)"

    This pretty much rendering Wolfsburg's display to moments of luck lol. Roord finds a role she can be effective, Waßmuth could have ended the match with 3 goals, they finally have a mid-field, with Wedemeyer and Rauch appearing like genuine defenders.

    Reducing all that to Wolfsburg were simply as good as Olympic's level Canada...o_O
     
  6. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member+

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Potsdam-Bremen 5:0(4:0)
    Weidauer(3), Ehegötz(9,37), Chmielinski(16), Cerci(90+1)

    Jena-Freiburg 1:5(1:3)
    Schumacher(2) - Kayikci(12,29,38), Memeti(51), Minge(86)

    Essen-Frankfurt 0:2(0:1)
    Freigang(41), L.Ostermeier(79og)

    Wolfsburg-Köln 3:0(1:0)
    van de Sanden(36), Roord(72), Huth(85)



    2.Bundesliga
    Leipzig-Andernach 0:1
    Henstedt-Ulzburg-Bocholt 2:4
    Nürnberg-Elversberg 0:1
    Ingolstadt-Gütersloh 3:5
    Hoffenheim II-Bayern II 0:1
    Wolfsburg II-Frankfurt II 1:2
    Duisburg-Meppen 3:0

    Highlights Wolfsburg-Köln


    Highlights Essen-Frankfurt
     
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  7. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I remember a lot of expectation surrounding the emergence of 16-17 yo Wieder at Bayern. So after injuries, and changing clubs, it good to see her finally producing such strong performances for Leverkusen right now.

    As a club though, if they really wanted to challenge for a 3rd place finish, they should have done more to try and replace the lost quality of Tanaka within their team.

    But if players like Wieder can step up, it could still be a good race to see who can challenge Hoffenheim for 3rd place this season.
     
  8. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member+

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Borussia Dortmund had a good start in Kreisliga. They won their matches so far 8:0, 4:0, 15:0, 4:0 and a 12:0 in regional Cup. Schalke 04 (Team Blue) are only in second place despite 4 wins and 25:0 goals because their second team (Team White) has five wins and 47:0 goals.
     
  9. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    new Bundesligabteam of the week/ My personal gripe; the biggest game was marred by some horrible coaching from Hoffenheim(rather than give 4 BM players credit)
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  10. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
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  11. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    3-0 halftime for WOB, but not much imagination or input so far by their mids, more like bidding their time as they wait for Servette’s back line to make mistakes
     
  12. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Wolfsburg 5-0 final but at times looking disinterested. Wassmuth was on fire in the 1st half with two goals & an steal that led to an Huth goal, but than stayed to far on the flank to get involved in the 2nd. Some horrid passing by sub Doursoon didn’t help either. Could add Roord not looking good at AM. So seems like WOB has more life in it or wakes up if their pushed back a little. Otherwise it’s this kind of dreary match you get from them
     
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  13. hotjam2

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    Nov 23, 2012
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    Real Madrid
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  14. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Watching a second half where Beerensteyn is being allowed to play centrally, so Schüller receives the ball playing as a right winger...:speechless: What is it with this weird obsession for Bayern's coach to constantly put other players ahead of Schüller...?

    I can see they haven't even moved out of first gear during the 2nd half, but it's seeing things like this, that continue to leave me with serious doubts about Bayern's coach in this particular competition...:cautious:
     
  15. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Bayern could/should have imposed themselves better in the 2nd half, leaving me asking more questions concerning they way their best goal scorer (Schüller) continuously wasted by her coach...:unsure:

    I want to see Bayern's coach finally allow his team to play without carrying the burden of his own weird tactical insecurities; but a solid win overall, after the tactical horror show that took place in their tournament opener Vs Benfica.
     
  16. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    final score 4-0 Bayern.. Didn't see the 2nd half as I switched over to Barca-Koge game since it was still tied at halftime BM's passing was overall a lot crisper than we saw from Wolfsburg yesterday, just need to work more on the final touch

    here's youtube link to Hoffenheim-Arsenal
     
  17. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Hoffenheim had 45 mins to correct it's tactical error of starting with a 4-4-2, and now going on their scoring rate this season, it feels like the games basically finished before they've even started playing.

    ZERO mid-field presence, against a side that doesn't even look to dominate the ball, is honestly ridiculous. And facing an Arsenal side that's not even immensely impressive, Hoffenheim's choice to throw away it's standard 4-3-3 again, to instead switch to a 4-4-2, really doesn't make any sense to me...:confused:
     
  18. hotjam2

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    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    2-0 halftime, HOF trying to hang in there, but the experience of Arsenal is taking over & giving up an goal in the last few seconds might of sealed the deal
    HOF shouldn’t of started with the double fwds. I mean what’s the point when there’s no service to them. Hopefully Corley can come in for the 2nd half. Shame the CB Buhler got injured last game(as Specht looked uncomfortable in there)
     
  19. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Honestly... trash PK aside, Hoffenhem's facing an opponent who's clearly being allowed to have the mid-field all to themselves, and yet this game was completely in the balance until the late 2nd goal basically ended this as a contest.

    I still don't feel Arsenal aren't impressive... which is the only reason why I feel Hoffenheim can still make something happen in the second half. But they HAVE to change from the 4-4-2, to a 4-4-3.

    seriously... for a team known for it's 4-4-3, I have no comprehension how anybody can see Arsenal play, and not identify the need to control the mid-field battle...:confused:
     
  20. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    3rd time Arsenal scores/3rd time Specht was guarding, lol
     
  21. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Ughhh... I can't watch anymore. They started the second half as poorly as the ended the first....:confused: And their coach rested payers for this lol.

    After the poor 1st half against Frankfurt, the 90 mins underwhelming display Vs Bayern, and this even worse performance against Arsenal, I think Hoffenheim's coach has found his limits in making this continue to work with such a limited squad depth.
     
  22. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Hoffenheim haven't been playing well, but I feel like this performance was worryingly devoid of any kind of fight/extra effort...:unsure: They're not reacting to anything like this an important match.

    All three goals were weak, no mid-field presence for most of the match. You can even count the amount of times Brand touched the ball on one hand, and she's facing a FB who's nothing but SUPER mediocre.
     
  23. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    HOF played well for about 15 minutes after they gave up the 3rd one. but they subbed out Linder & Dongus and Arsenal took command again(and with that gave up another goal)
    The inexperience of HOF showed as their players looked nervous out there. Arsenal is an multi talented squad/some with World Cup ‘finals’ experience.

    But I agree; this coach wants to play two different halves. Unfortunately he tends to screw up the first half so badly that’s it’s hard to make n comeback in the 2nd half. I would of played 4-3-3 as well(with Linder playing higher on the right wing) Corley starting at AM/Dongus & Hagel behind her


    Brand had the best chance & provided the best service. But beginning to think your right, she needs better team mates & a better coaching and training staff

    the mediocre FB your talking about couldn’t be Maritz? who as an 18 year old got plenty of starts for Wolfsburg(and that includes CL finals)
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    So WOB & BM win, HOF looses
    well as Meatloaf used to sing Two out of Three Ain’t Bad!
     
  24. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Just finished watching this match, and while I feel it exposed Wolfsburg's low squad depth, your definitely right about it also showcasing them looking rather disinterested as a team most of the time too.

    Huth is the only AM option with Popp missing, Roord has to remain the forward in Pajor's absence, with the link between Huth, Roord - Waßmuth being rather impressive at times, suggesting more to come. But wow... seeing Knaak wasting everyone's time on the left wing, really highlighted a problem Wolfsburg probably wont be able to fix this season.

    Plus I also found it interesting seeing Janssen as captain, even though she continues to make really odd individual mistakes. As VDS remains a sub, so Knaak can continue her magic act of never producing ANYTHING to justify her preference with coaches lol. Seeing Doorsoun's short FB cameo end up being so bad, am I the only one wondering if she'll be at the club next season...:cautious:

    The sooner Bremer comes back to full health, the better it will be for Wolfsburg's attack this season. But seeing Smits, and Svava, again...:thumbsdown:
     
  25. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    It was all very... very... wrong. I turned off long before the 4th goal, as it was clear to me their coach had already given up.

    Their season so far being a constant battle to find a way to win games, or simply not lose games, they honestly haven't performed very well. It seems like their last 3 matches became all too much for them, never possessing a squad big enough in depth to cover for the injuries, I at least expected a better tactical plan to come into focus..:confused:

    Like watching Feldkamp trying to replace Bühler...:thumbsdown:. Not enough depth for a squad already missing starters like Hartig, and Krumbiegel.
     

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