Ricardo Pepi thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by schrutebuck, Sep 9, 2021.

  1. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Admitting a mistake is impossible for a lot of people. So they double down and look even more foolish.
     
  2. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    It's definitely something Mike would have said. But iirc the story was relayed to me by another person who was close to KCJr.
     
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  3. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    By the way, KCJr. can be seen on the FCD training ground at times working with kids.

    He opened a soccer school at the nearby Performance Indoor Training Center. I don't know if that's still going on, though. That was pre-COVID.
     
  4. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    To quote Rumsfeld, they are known unknowns.
     
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  5. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Ok so you picked two players. Lewa and Kante.

    how about Bayern’s typical starters

    neuer: schalke starter at 20
    Pavard: spot starter at Lille then starter at Stuttgart basically at 20
    Upamecano: starter at Salzburg at 18 move to Leipzig right after one season and starter pretty quickly.
    Sule:starter at hoffenheim basically at 18
    Davies: we know
    Kimmich: starter at Leipzig from 18 but not in bundesliga til 20
    Goretzka: schalke starter at 18
    Gnabry: Arsenal farting around break out at Bremen at 21
    Muller: starter at Bayern at 20
    Coman: spot player at juve at 18 contributor at Bayern by 19.


    Point being is lewa and kante are outliers. If Pepi plans on being best in the world being in a challenging environment by age 20 is important, on average.

    go ahead mention drogba or other outliers
     
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  6. Shaster

    Shaster Member+

    Apr 13, 1999
    El Cerrito, CA, USA
    Pepi needs to go Europe. Look on Busio’s progress.
    In MLS, the defense give too much time and space to strikers. You can receive the ball then finishing your morning caffe, then shot to score.
     
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  7. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First, I picked Lewa because of the chatter in this thread targeting Pepi as a Lewa replacement. Secondly, in your missive I see a number of "basically" starters, "spot starter(s)" and even a 2nd division player to prove your point. But thirdly - and most importantly - you did all that writing to ultimately say that Pepi must be in a challenging environment by age 20. Pepi is now 18. Did you not read where I wrote that he can use another season at Dallas, with the pressure of being the man, and leave at 19 without missing out on development? Last I checked, 19 is less than 20. But please, carry on ... you are on a roll.
     
  8. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Ha yeah I posted that and then forgot to say btw I know you likely don’t disagree with this plus I realize he still has time to age in MLS and progress as you are saying.

    ended up more argumentative sounding vs discussion adding if you will.

    that being said, it is always a bit of a trigger for me when folks mention top level development outliers like Lewa or Kante. They’re more uncommon as top players than common so I do think we should want a player like Pepi getting into tougher competitive environments before he’s 20/21 if he can.

    the other failure of my post was to note how many of those names at 18/19/20 were on mid-level teams in the bundesliga getting lots of playing time before bayern and Pepi has to be careful to, just as you said and I totally agree, make sure he’s in a position to get playing time.
     
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  9. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
  10. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Pepi is already 5th in goals in a season for an FCD player. He's 18.
    [​IMG]
     
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  11. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd like to see him bag more but I can't help but think that with US games too he will be pretty worn out.
     
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  12. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Seems like we might start hearing news of formal bids for Pepi soon....................
     
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  13. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  14. 50/50 Ball

    50/50 Ball Member+

    Sep 6, 2006
    USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Look at the damage playing MLS as a19 year old did to Busio and Adams!
     
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  15. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The funny thing is I have already seen the argument, numerous times, that he has become a completely different player after 6 weeks at Venezia -- again, trying to completely discount that he massively developed at KC. We would no doubt see the same argument about Pepi, if he played well abroad.
     
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  16. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which is ridiculous. However, being in a new team/structure/tactical setup/league all contribute to learning different things than you already have. Different clubs/leagues have different demands on a player, and this will only help make a player more well-rounded.
     
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  17. The Clientele

    The Clientele Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Very much of an aside, but what a wonderful way to be 19. Busio is living a dream. Playing in Italy, in Venice of all places, and thriving. He’s going to look back on this period of his life fondly.

    I’m stoked he is doing well. I like Busio on the National team.
     
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  18. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Haven’t seen that argument much. Totally agree with you.
     
  19. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    There's been an awful lot of that going around...
     
  20. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    I'm not sure this says much. For one, the league is better now. And two, it's the manner of his play. There's a reason European teams (and good ones) are interested. You can't say that for a lot of the guys on that list.
     
  21. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some posters like to infinituple down on being wrong. Like a certain poster that hates Matt Turner, and anyone else in MLS.
     
  22. I've been screening the last two weeks the Amsterdam newspaper "de Telegraaf" with direct access to the Ajax board and the one that always gets news first to get the scoop and nothing about Pepi.
    Doesnot mean there's nothing with certainty, but it seems to me highly doubtfull.
     
  23. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Absolutely. There are a bunch of young men right now in the very enviable position of being able to make a lot of money playing soccer in some wonderful European locales to an appreciative audience while they're young and in peak physical health with hopefully their whole lives as well as careers ahead of them. Of course, as tends to be the case with humans, especially those without a lot of experience to fall back on, we tend not to fully appreciate what we have until we don't have it any longer. I hope they do. As people as much as players.
     
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  24. The Clientele

    The Clientele Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly what I was thinking and feeling. Some of these guys are in great situations. I look back at my earlier years and realize how good I had it.

    The problem with youth? It’s wasted on the young!

    Regarding the October window of games, I suspect we’ll see Busio play at least 50% of these games. That’s my prediction.
     
  25. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Reasonable prediction, imo.
     
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