England Senior Team General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Jul 11, 2021.

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  1. Jimmy Skitz

    Jimmy Skitz Member+

    Leicester City
    England
    Nov 4, 2020
    Who is replacing Southgate then and when?
     
  2. Port Vale Fan

    Port Vale Fan Member

    May 30, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Guardiola is being lined up after Qatar.
     
  3. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Is he? Where did you hear that?
     
  4. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Probably just guessing. Guardiola has said that he wants to go into international management but it's supposedly Brazil that he wants to manage apart from Spain.
     
  5. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Why would he want to manage Brazil
     
  6. He's going to succeed LvGaal after Qatar. He always wanted to coach the Origin of modern football.
     
  7. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Nah. Hes gonna manage England
     
  8. He also wanted back to Barcelona and the Orange Squad more or less offers him that too;)
     
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  9. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    I think England or Spain is most likely. Spain for obvious reasons, and England because we'll pay him more than anyone else.
     
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  10. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    He also probably has a closer affinity to England over everyone else bar spain
     
  11. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Leno dropped for Ramsdale today.
     
  12. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    I'm not sure Guardiola would be a fantastic international manager, since he left Barcelona anyway his champions league management is often really quite poor and leads to his sides being turned over by worse teams.

    Certainly if he was to succeed it would surely have to be with Spain who at least have the players to do what he wants, something that would be a huge obstacle managing England given the central midfielders we have.
     
  13. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    City normally play to ball winning players in fernandinho and rhodri. Sometimes one so I don't see it that differently from rice and Phillips plus we have more technical midfielders in by then like Bellingham
     
  14. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    #889 MrSnrub, Sep 11, 2021
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2021
    Rodri is really more of a passer than he is a ball winning midfielder, he's far more of a Busquets type than anything England has. Fernandinho is less the usual Guardiola passer (though he is good on the ball) but he is generally paired with two very good passers.

    Even England's young central midfielders aren't really the type Guardiola tends to play. Bellingham really isn't some midfield metronome that Guardiola loves to have in his teams, his consistency of his passing is probably the worst part of his game. Maybe Foden will work his way into central midfield and is more in the profile of a Guardiola midfielder, though tellingly he's struggled generally when he's played central midfield in comparison to his wide performances for City.

    None of which is to say England don't have talented midfielders who can do well, but I'm not sure they would for the most part ever suit Guardiola.
     
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  15. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    They're the most iconic national team in football. I'm guessing that's the pull.
     
  16. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    He has zero connection to them. They're shite nowadays. They're half way across the world. They hardly have a ronaldo Rivaldo etc. But good luck to him
     
  17. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    BTW aj. Im not having a pop at u. Just this fallacy that everyone wants to manage Brazil just because they were good 20 years ago. Brazil barely have any top class players anymore. May as well manage Hungary because they were good in the 50s
     
  18. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    Brazil are currently one of the best teams in the world.
     
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  19. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    Who started this stupid Guardiola gossip and why are we even discuss it?
    Also rather have and English coach, let Guardiola go where he wants to.
     
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  20. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    At least Pep would use all our creative guys and play attractive football
     
  21. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC


    If this is true then maybe there could be some issues with Southgate’s man management skills. I mean if I was Chilwell, I think I might have been a bit miffed off at being left out for a right back. Not exactly a confidence booster.
     
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  22. Ste walker

    Ste walker Member

    Dec 2, 2016
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    I bet Chilwell was miffed when trippier started left back, Southgate baffles the mind at times especially when it comes to substitutions!
     
  23. TRS-T

    TRS-T Member

    Aug 21, 2014
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Agreed. We as a heavyweight national team should not be having a foreign manager. I hope that the FA would never do that again.
     
  24. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    The Chilwell stuff and no subs v Poland are more reminders of why I always feel you have to take the team morale and puff pieces about great man management skills with a big pinch of salt.
     
  25. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    How foreign is foreign? Would you accept Brendan Rodgers?
     

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