I want players who want to represent the USA. Forget the sport. That is merely the vehicle you have open to you to honor the USA. If you want to play on team USA but your national allegiance lies with some other country then I would rather have someone else.
Chriiiist. Well, suffice to say I don't see it that way, I guess. But my point is like -- a lot of people don't see it that way even though many Americans might. Soccer is not just a vehicle for the approbation for the glory of the USA (again, Christ) -- it's actually an end unto itself. But in your mind, a guy like Dest has to give up allegiance to his actual birth country to put on a US jersey?
Note............................American citizens born abroad are just as much American citizens as you or I. There's no litmus test required for their intentions. Performance level is the ultimate decider. Who's willing to fight in a WCQer on the road in a Central American jungle, and who looks like they don't really want to be there?
Yup that's really the decider for me. Who wants to show up for the WCQ in Honduras and give it their all and who wants to show only when it's time for the World Cup. For me if you put in the sweat equity with the group and go through everything that comes with qualifying, you're definitely committed to the cause.
This is exactly what is wrong with far too many in society today. Any opinion is fine as long as its the one currently in vouge. I don't tell you how you should think about this. Nor that what you think is wrong. I merely stated how I feel. Nothing more or less.
Yea...and he replied to it, disagreed with a little old-fashioned Bigsoccer oduim and impoliteness then asked you a question. This reply is so vague and vapid he could literally just reply to you with the exact same thing.
Here lets try again. This is what I want in players wearing the US jersey. 1. Players who are proud of our country and want to represent it. Soccer happens to be their avenue. 2. If a player is more proud of another country then I would prefer they play for that country. 3. I want to field the best team of players that want to represent the USA not the best team of players who just happen to be eligible. Here's my bottom line. To me this is about playing for your country. If its just about having the best team out on the field thee is an entire world of soccer for that its called club programs.
What about a player who is very proud to play for the US and gives his all for us in every match but might’ve been prouder to play for the country where they grew up? The scenario where they’re a really strong player for us but not good enough for France or England? Or where we just gave them opportunities earlier than they would’ve gotten when there was uncertainty if they’d ever make it to their country of birth’s full national team? This isn’t so cut and dry as you make it. People feel proud of their heritage to multiple countries in a genuine manner all the time and can be extremely professional and high impact players. For what it’s worth I don’t find a “general” position like yours to be totally unreasonable regarding not wanting pure mercenaries or feeling uncomfortable with a player like… Pefok (who barely speaks English). That said, I personally disagree and as long as they are willing to give their all for the USMNT and always answer the call I’d rather give guys like Dest and Musah (who spent a combined ~zero time in the US) the shirt. By your definition we wouldn’t have the following core players by my estimation: Dest, Musah, Brooks, and ARob. There are other guys to mention that have either not committed yet (Balogun) or are fringier commits (Otasowie) that could join that group. It’s fine if that’s your opinion (again I disagree) but I just think we should be clearer about this when we either criticize other country’s dual recruitments or make statements about our own squad.
I agree with this. We have one of those guys running the entire program right now. Also, would you rather have had Tim Chandler or John Harkes in your World Cup squad?
Profile of Cowell where he says he’s undecided between the US and Mexico https://theathletic.com/2777583/202...hquakes-mls-usmnt/?source=user_shared_article. But the way he describes getting called up for the Gold Cup, he does not seem like someone who is at all a flight risk.
I don't have a subscription, so I didn't read the article, but he feels like a guy who is playing the dual nat card a bit to force USMNT call-ups slightly earlier than he would otherwise get them rather than someone really fond of El Tri.
There isn't even a quote from him saying that Cowell is undecided. Not that it isn't true I'm sure he told the interviewer that. He did mention his conversation with Berhalter on coming to join the team at the Gold Cup and how exciting that was. However, he was upset for a few days because Arriola wasn't really hurt but being able to train for 2 or 3 days was cool.
Why is everyone stressing over fringe CONCACAF NT players in MLS when the USMNT has pulled in top dual nat core players from top Euro club teams? These are some of the players you all know were eligible to play for top foreign national teams: Dest (Holland), Brooks (Germany), Musah (Italy/England), Pefok (France), etc.
I don't know if it's stressing over it at least for me, it's not wanting the United States to be the development hotbed for our chief regional rival.
Efrain Alvarez only has to see who is in front of him in the USA LW pecking order to make up his mind for Mexico. The problem is, he is not that good even for Mexico's standard. Is a bit early but so far he looks to be going the Jonathan Gonzalez way.
I agree about Pepi, he is coming into his own. You are forgetting about Jonathan Gomez, he looks legit to me. He will be going to Real Socieda in La Liga, and if he catches on fire...He will be highly sought after because of his youth and ability to control the ball in tight spaces as a LEFT BACK, yes a position of need in our team. GB should be courting this kid now, he has nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Was he? from the pictures that I saw, he had a somber demeanor. I didn't see him jumping around with delight. He may have been a mole.
Do you think Gomez is playing in the USL because he is not good enough? You are wrong! He didn't want to sign the standard 3-year deal with MLS. He knows he is good enough to go to Europe and once he turns 18 he will be going to Real Sociedad in La Liga.
I mean he’s a good prospect but so are a lot of US youth players who have signed in Europe. It’s no guarantee of success. I’m not saying he won’t make it but there’s a big difference between signing with Real Sociedad and seeing first team minutes with them.
i am agnostic on gomez until i see him play anywhere. ive been assured hes the best american left back ever born (all caps, exclamation mark). but seriously- count me in. 100% court him. jan camp (if there is one), feb friendly window? engrave the invitation if you want. ...but minutes in world cup qualifying rosters arent courtship- its taking someone you met online for your first date to your brothers destination wedding in greece where the only 9 "guests" will be immediate family- in including your officiant grandpa. you can either earn minutes with us or be bought with them by from mexico. i have zero interest in ransom demands from 18 year olds. and ill note theres no reason at all to attribute that in any way to gomez, im speaking generally.
I wonder what he thinks about the "Put0" chants we have to go through or the throwing of stuff and cussing at our fellow Americans. It goes both ways.