2021 CONCACAF Gold Cup Final - USA vs Mexico, August 1st, 2021

A lot of talk about the failure of Mexican football should be on the culture like Lozano just said in an interview of which this post is prime thing.

That Chicharito, the guy who is the leading scorer in Mexican football and had the 3rd or 4th best career in Mexican football is the problem just exposes you. That some ridiculous Martinoli BS

You believe it's players that bough there own hype because you're part of the mexican zombie horde of fans that believe it's was the players fault mostly because of Martinolli and are either not smart or falling for a guy who always had a media campaign for his friends and who is part of the Joserra school, a guy who did those campaign a la Televisa to sell his opinions and his staff as "the TRUTH". The Chepo excuse isn't debunked. If anything people blamed most of his players and he chose a different squad for the 2013 Gold Cup and he played just as shit. The Vucetich era was 2 games, 1 win and 1 loss and it wasn't great but the reason it was a tragedy at the time was all the games that we lost either games or points with Chepo. The fact he didn't win a game in Azteca in the hex and only won once outside. It's why the stupid Martinoli rant is so dumb, because he blames the players when he never was that against Chepo. When people blame the euros, yet the terrible defense was all Liga MX. When Carlos Salcido was one of the worst players game after game yet never got blame because he wasn't a "diva inflada". Chepo de la Torre was super rigid and he believed Mexico was Brazil in CONCACAF and should play "like Mexico" every game which mad the team the most predictable and he got outcoached game after game. If anything it was a kudos to the talent that we tied games and not flat out loss them. The big problem in that tenure wasn't the Costa Rica game but the Honduras Aztecazo (That Chicharito didn't even play) where we dominated the 1st half, Luis Fernandez Suarez figured out Chepo and changed in halftime and we lost a game that was the most absolutely must win. But there was no Martinoli rant against the players that day so......

It's amazing that you bought the Borgetti official game thing that just shows what the type of fan you are. If there ever is a player who benefited from the lousy opposition it's Borgetti. He scored 12 "official" goals against Dominica, St Vincent and the Grenadines and Belize. It's the ability of not going against context. No Chicharito, no Luis Hernandez, no Oribe Peralta or Raul Jimenez has ever played against a team as bad as Dominica. It's the worse team ever faced since I've been a fan. Then Mexico got the easiest Semifinal group ever and faced a team like St. Vincent. Chicharito, as a player who played in Europe and thus had to participate in FIFA A friendly had a lot better opposition in those friendlies than Borgetti so the dumb idea that because they are "official" suddenly means that it's tougher to score against St Kitts and Nevis than Paraguay, it shows the lack of analysis and the biased idea. If there is a player that should be the poster boy of when people say "Se infla los numeros por jugar contra CONCACAF" it should be Jared Borgetti. But Martinolli didn't rant against him so.....

It's funny that you bring up those networks when a big part of their problem is that they keep adding to these terrible culture of ignorant fans that you repeat verbatim their arguments. The problem of those players is that we constantly fail to send those players to Europe or take too long because of the mexican idea of "el proceso" or because clubs overprice their players and people that can't realize the fact that Liga MX has a small ceiling and unless the World economy drastically changes (which it doesn't like it will) then Mexico will NEVER be able to compete with the Top 5 leagues in Europe. The top football is going to be played in those leagues and that should be the priority because club football will always be the best in those leagues and that is where you thrive because it's where week in and week out your players play.

The US didn't really do anything because of 2018. It's a totally overblown event. Mexico had the same thing in 2013, we were just mega lucky to get a results after the terrible decision to keep Chepo while they had the bad luck that the ball bounced off Ochoa's head and that the ref screwed Costa Rica with a phantom goal. Thus we had the opportunity to bounce back in the World Cup and set things right and they didn't. The US had a talented US youth squad that started sending their young players to Europe as opposed to us. And in the end everybody is making it as if it's the typical problems when talent wise Mexico had to have beaten this US team and done better than they did in the Nations League but they didn't as they have done in 2021 because it's a bad job and it's on the coaching staff like the fact that with the same players Osorio could make a team that could defend set pieces and who never get scored on and now we have a team that can't defend them even worse than before.

El 29% de los goles que ha recibido la Selección Mexicana en la era del Tata, han sido a balón parado (indirectos + tiros de esquina). pic.twitter.com/3sQhyPLjZ3

— Statiskicks (@statiskicks) August 2, 2021

 

Almeyda's tenure is the most overrated and it's because of Chivas. If you look at him overall he did as good as Diego Alonso but people never talk about Alonso's Pachuca as they talk about Almeyda. I like the guy and have high hopes for him but he was nowhere near the "should have been hired before".

 

People should stop about us missing our players. Maybe it was against Canada but it's no excuse for the US. They flat out had a B squad at most this time.

De los que jugaron por Estados Unidos en la Nations League, solo Kellyn Acosta repite como titular. Dos que hoy arrancan (Lletget y Cannon) entraron de cambio ese día.

Por México repiten 7 titulares y uno que entro de cambio ese día (Pineda) arranca.

Es A vs B, no le muevan...

— Luis Fridman (@FridmanLuis) August 2, 2021

 

This post is terrible even for you. What the fvck are you talking about that the 7-0 and the 1-1 in Azteca have Javier Hernandez in common? Are you on crack? That's the dumbest thing I'v heard. Guillermo Ochoa was the goalkeeper in that 7-0, the freaking goalkeeper, and yet anybody who blames him for the goalkeeper is being mega stupid because only that way could somebody blame something on a player let alone the Center forward. Then again you say that he didn't "echarse el equipo el hombro" like a CF or a player like Borgetti did that. And LOL at using "it's Chepo's fault" like blaming the coach for having the team in 5th place of the Hex is something out there. Yep crazy talk.

Special Talent would have been embarrassed by this post. Take a breather to make a better argument please.