The Real Reboot Thread: Road to WC22

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Ger90, Jun 29, 2021.

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  1. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Dorsch is our version of Ngolo Kante, I'm desperate for him to do well in that position
     
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  2. AdiD

    AdiD Member

    Mar 11, 2011
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Just 2 weeks until Flick takes over
     
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  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Roberto Mancini on what can Germany learn from Italy: "Germany is still a great football nation.They always had good teams and great players. The German coaches were also always excellent. But everyone has to go their own way. We were in a similar position 3 years ago"

    Mancini: "Joachim Löw and his team were knocked out against England in the round of 16, but they didn't have the easiest group either. But honestly? In my opinion, the Germans didn't deserve to be knocked out. For me they played a great game against England"


    LMAO sounds like he thought Germany should have beaten England, nice jab.:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
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  4. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Mancini isn't wrong, we weren't at our best against England that's because of our poor set up, but we did have great chances in the first half to be leading !
     
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  5. Aderthan

    Aderthan Member+

    Schwarz weiss essen
    Germany
    Nov 17, 2020
    One thing for sure, Flick will make Germany great again. I'm already moved on from the tragic Euro 2020 campaign :thumbsup:, can't wait to see Flick's first assignment as the trainer.
     
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  6. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Flick will make Germany great again

    The Donald Trump of Football!!!!!
     
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  7. AdiD

    AdiD Member

    Mar 11, 2011
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    would have been much funnier i Flick would have got like 3 years like Mancini just for building a team. Read that Mancini tried like 40 players, even some from Serie B. Now Flick has to deal with Löws mess losing to NM forced to win.

    will be a real fun time after WC when Flick can focus totally on building a strong team before 2024
     
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  8. rj123

    rj123 Member

    The team with the most German NT players
    Germany
    Nov 21, 2010
    Winnipeg, MB
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Somehow, I get the feeling that you could have a meeting of the non-English national English NT fan club in a closet and still have plenty of room ....:);)
     
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  9. rj123

    rj123 Member

    The team with the most German NT players
    Germany
    Nov 21, 2010
    Winnipeg, MB
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    While there seems to be a lot of good up and coming talent, I don't think you need to go through the same process. The core is there, these are great players, championship quality, that are able to go far in an international tournament. What is required is a good/great coach that can take advantage of the qualities of the players and create a great team.

    Like everyone else in this forum, I hope Flick is that coach.
     
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  10. AdiD

    AdiD Member

    Mar 11, 2011
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    agree! Thats why Flick only needs 1,5 years;)
     
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  11. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    In terms of quality, Germany have a great squad, with several young players who have already tasted international glory at club level (Kimmich, Goretzka, Süle, Gnabry, Rüdiger, Havertz and Werner).

    Germany's last three years could be seen as a past-his-prime pilot driving a modern F1 car.
     
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  12. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    yeah fact is no one likes England. Basically only England NT fans are English.

    France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Argentina (although how much is Messi fixation), Brazil attract most outsider fans.

    usually almost all - about Germany is WWII crap that has 0 to do with sport and most not even alive back then lol.

    England NT everyone hates them and roots against them. Don't think I saw much of anyone online rooting for England that wasn't English. And all their hooliganism during tourney made more people dislike them.
     
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  13. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    I like the English, however I am totally indifferent to their NT, and didn't care if they won or lost.

    As for the English fixation on the World Wars and anti-German sentiment, that started during the 1980s from what I have read. The 1966 World Cup final had none of the anti-German rhetoric from accounts I read, because a lot of people had experienced the horrors of war and the mood amongst the English was more about forgive and forget.
     
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  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I have nothing against English people but its part of sport to shit on other teams. Laughing and mocking at England and 1966 fixation is fun as hell.

    like I currently have a disdain for modern day VFB Stuttgart but nothing against anyone from Stuttgart or the city.

    its not just England fixation on WW, how many times I've seen online or in real life about why would they support or like Nazis aka Germany? and this was 2000s and 1st half of 2010s.

    fact is Klinsmann and Low's fast attacking footy made TONS of people go from indifferent-dislike of Germany to liking. As older Germany teams seen as boring blablabla, false narrative that majority of 80s-90s Germany teams had no skills no stars, no world class players.

    "Its DAT German oil machine, crazy mentality that got them far and NOTHING else. "

    Almost same crap you saw with Germany U21 2021 and them winning U21, LMAO.

    I think Germany is country where most BS comes up about from them all.
     
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  15. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Speaking of sports rivalries, I am frankly surprised there's never been a football rivalry between England and France, considering they've been competing with each other on many fields for centuries.
     
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  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think its because no one takes England seriously, lol.
     
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  17. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Funny thing is, none of those players are young except for Havertz
     
  18. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    OK, let me rephrase. Players at the peak of their careers.
     
  19. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I think people misunderstand sporting rivalries quite a bit if they didn't grow up with them.

    e.g as a kiwi, germans always think i would support England which i find absurd.

    Most kiwis would even support Australia or South Africa (our big local rivals) over England.

    In my experience, Germans are usually Anglophiles and hold no strong rivalry with england, compared to the likes of france and italy, whereas England has a hard on for germany like you would not believe.

    In rugby, england have far more rivalry with the home nations than with france. Same in football - playing vs Scotland is far more of a grudge match than France.
     
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  20. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Yeah, people usually are shocked whenever they find out I root for Germany during World Cups despite having no ties of any kind to Germany, as they would expect me to root for fellow South American countries like Brazil.
     
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  21. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #521 Alex C, Jul 19, 2021
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2021
    As a foreigner in England, I was often called a nazi and shit but I also know a lot of English people are embarrassed by those attitudes. The country has a ton of issues right now with the rise of right wing populism leading to stuff like Brexit and a steep rise in racism and hooliganism. Pretty divided country so no surprise that all the violence and racism at Euro 2020 occurred, especially as a lot of people used the tournament as an excuse to drink heavily in public after 16 months of lockdown. Drinking all day = hooliganism central at night.

    Definitely the least popular NT outside of England, was funny seeing all the other Brits like Scotland and Wales celebrate almost as much as Italian fans lol. The reason France and most Germans don’t see England as a rival is due to the fact that other then when at home, England haven’t done anything in tournaments. Literally only ever won 1 k/o Euro match outside of England (v Ukraine).

    Btw I read that security at the stadium were accepting bribes from ticketless fans and the police did nothing to stop the stampede. Total joke.

    I expect UEFA to give them a stadium ban.
     
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  22. Aderthan

    Aderthan Member+

    Schwarz weiss essen
    Germany
    Nov 17, 2020
    Older generation of those from Commonwealth countries were actually rooting for England probably because of the influence of the English Premier League but in recent years many had switched their supports for other country.
     
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  23. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    7yo Thomas Hitzelsperger + Berti Vogts

     
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  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Nmecha,
    ... the national team: A classic center forward, as Nmecha can embody, was missing from the A selection in recent years. The new Wolfsburg would love to slip into this role in the future. "That's one reason why I moved to the Bundesliga. I'm sure I can get to this level." Until the World Cup in Qatar, which will take place at the end of next year? "That would really be a dream," says Nmecha. "To do that, I have to put everything in."
     
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  25. rj123

    rj123 Member

    The team with the most German NT players
    Germany
    Nov 21, 2010
    Winnipeg, MB
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Pretty much feel the same way. On a personal level, I like/dislike people on how they engage with me. So far, I have only positive things to say about any English folks I've met.

    It's the bloody football fans (and not all of them) and the tabloid media that ticks me off, with their insulting attitude towards Germans. I've seen it mellow over the years and that's good.

    It is also annoying to hear comments like "German machine" - these guys are lazy and can't bother to do any research and just resort to stereotypes.
     
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