NSR: A gun on Every Corner: Discuss the NRA, Gun Ownership and All Those Non-Mass Shootings..

This is actually pretty hilarious/awesome.

Former NRA President duped by Parkland parents into giving fake graduation speech to empty chairs. He thought this was the rehearsal, but a simple Google search would have told him the high school doesn’t even exist. pic.twitter.com/RLZns6YCIB

— Mike Sington (@MikeSington) June 23, 2021

 

Jeezus H Christ, well that pretty much ruined my evening... Smh

This isn't normal. pic.twitter.com/EIzyEdtA2S

— PatriotTakes 🇺🇸 (@patriottakes) June 24, 2021

 

That is cute!

Nice father and daughter moment.

 

This story could also go on the police thread, but I will put it here since there is no "good guy with gun" thread.

So Ronald Troyke goes on a shooting rampage targeting cops, he left a document with comments like

He accomplishes his goal by killing one cop.

Then he goes back to his car to get his Swiss army knife (AR-15)

Then a "good guy with a gun" [Johnny Hurley] comes in with a handgun and shoots Troyke, stopping him from possibly shooting more people (more cops).

But then the Hurley makes the mistake of picking up the AR15, another cop that just got to the scene sees this and shoots Hurley.

At first police claim that Hurley was shot by Trosky, but after reviewing the video, they change their story and are now praising Hurley as a hero, I did not see in the article if the cop is facing any charges.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/26/us/arvada-colorado-police-shot-good-samaritan/index.html

This story is so "Merica!

 

Also shows one of the pitfalls of “good guy with a gun”. Cops can’t tell the difference between good guy with a gun and bad guy with a gun. In an active shooter situation, all they see is gun.

 

The moral of this sad story (aside from the all too obvious one), is that training must be more in depth (and recurring also) for police officers.
Proper assessment of the personnel and candidates is paramount as well: not everyone is fit for the job.

 

I was present for this last night https://www.wthr.com/article/news/c...eets/531-b2f34d20-4699-41b6-a517-39b991336154

Fortunately, police showed up en masse quickly to make a scary situation completely chaotic and scarier.

 

Was the gunfight in response to Louisville's late equalizer?

 

So a standoff in a Massachusetts highway with heavy armed men, who seem to belong to a sovereign citizen group results in 11 arrests after hours of negotiation.

A bit of a twist on the story.

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/07/03/rise-of-moors-moorish-american-arms-wakefield-standoff-i95/

 

Yes black sovereign citizens who claim to be from Morocco but not modern Morocco and are therefore not subject to US and states laws, sorry, US and state "codes and statutes", which of course is bs.

 

Here is the southern poverty law on the Moorish group.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/moorish-sovereign-citizens

 

The group was live streaming their standoff and claim they are not sovereign citizens or anti-government… just your standard, run of the mill militia. Something the police may not have batted an eye at if they we white.

Of course, I’m not sure what MA’s open carry laws are, so maybe the reaction wouldn’t have been different if MA’s open carry laws don’t allow such attire and armaments.

 

According to the cop in the video, the weapons must be stored securely in the trunk and the ammunition stored separately.

 

Patriots roll locked and loaded.Fcvk off,slaver!

 

I bet her neighbors buy ALL of her girl scout cookies

 

According to this it is legal on roads

But you need a state license to carry, and if you are asked by a cop, in many states you are required to show your license, this is what probably started the stand off.

Most likely a cop saw people open carrying long guns, so he asked them for their license, the people did not provide the cop with a license.

https://gunlawsuits.org/gun-laws/massachusetts/open-carry/

Yeah, this is probably if you are out of state and MA does not accept your states license as complaint with their own. Is similar here in Illinois, we do not accept many licenses from other states.

 

I looked through a bunch of websites to compile these rules:

- Only a person with a Massachusetts LTC or a formerly issued, valid Class A LTC may carry a loaded handgun or short-barreled firearm in a vehicle, provided the weapon is under the license holder’s direct control. For holders of previously issued, valid Massachusetts Class B LTCs, a handgun must be unloaded and secured in a locked trunk or locked container. Without an LTC, it is illegal to knowingly possess or control a firearm in a vehicle, whether loaded or unloaded, unless the possessor is at his or her residence or place of business or possesses the proper card or license for the firearm possessed.

- The state prohibits the illegal possession of assault weapons. To use machine guns and firearms, you must register with the department of police.

- It is illegal to brandish a firearm unlawfully in Massachusetts.

- Large-Capacity Rifles and Shotguns: All persons transporting large capacity rifles or shotguns under an LTC must transport them unloaded and in a locked case, locked trunk, or other secure container. Trigger locks do not meet the requirements of securing a large-capacity firearm during transport in a motor vehicle. Large-capacity firearms left unattended in a vehicle must be unloaded and in a locked case, locked trunk, or other secure container.

Non-Large-Capacity Rifles and Shotguns: Non-large capacity rifles and shotguns may be transported under an LTC or FID license and must be unloaded but are not required to be in a locked case while transporting. Muzzleloading or other Black Powder arms must also be unloaded while transporting. Note: Although locking cases are recommended, only large-capacity rifles and shotguns are subject to this transporting requirement.

The laws for transporting a firearm can be confusing. Basically, if you keep the firearm unloaded, and locked in a case in the trunk or rear storage compartment of a truck or SUV you will comply with the current law.

- Non-residents with a valid Massachusetts non-resident hunting license do not need a firearm license to possess or carry rifles and shotguns and ammunition during the hunting season.

- Non-residents do not need a firearms license to transport their firearms in or through the Commonwealth, provided the firearms are unloaded and enclosed in a case while traveling.

 

Didn't all the "good guy with a gun" bullshit meet its end a few years back when an Army guy (IIRC he'd been radicalized) started shooting on an Army base? If a fukking Army base is unable to find some "good guys with guns" to deal with an active shooter.....

 

Guns are not allowed on an Army base. You will never find a classic GGWAG there-- it will only be response teams...

 

How come he had a gun

 

Maybe he was a rule breaker.

 

He did something criminal. When you outlaw guns only criminals have guns-- you've probably heard that before.
But it doesn't seem to occur to most folks who say it that that actually is a desirable state of affairs, an improvement...

 

could be I guess.

 

did not know that.

 

You can't carry personal weapons on an army base but security personnel are issued with whatever they need to do their job.