Covid-19: Vax Americana

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  1. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
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    30%??

    Thats an incredibly low bar.
     
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  2. SamScouse

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    Jun 1, 2015
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    Even if you could manage to stay away from them - how do you stop them mingling with you?
     
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  3. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    a. I do quite a good job of not mingling with anybody.
    b. I haven't been vaccinated.
     
  4. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

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    ??

    I thought we were talking about how things could/should develop over the next year or so .... weren't we?
     
  5. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    Nr Kingston NY
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    You were?
     
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  6. SamScouse

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    LOL misread the thread. :)
     
  7. soccernutter

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    Y'all keep an eye on Covaxin. It is made by an Indian company, is being made in pill form, and is showing to be quite effective v. 3 of the 4 bad strains (Indian, Brasilian, and British, I think). There is another company out there which is at Phase 2/3 of testing their pill as well (forget the name of the company/vaccine).
     
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  8. soccernutter

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    Near the mountains.
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  9. soccernutter

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    There are so many places too look.
     
  10. soccernutter

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    Nobody tag brummie. ;)
     
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  11. soccernutter

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    SuperBowl/NCAA M Basketball touny/Rugby WC/Cricket WC, particularly if India is playing...;)
     
  12. BocaFan

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    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I would agree that the same would could be true with COVID long term. But the prevailing thinking right now is that if we hit x per cent vaccinated people in the US then we can achieve herd immunity. Like, immediately. And regardless where other countries stand.

    Also, since measles doesn't really mutate I'm not sure the comparison works.
     
  13. soccernutter

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    Philosophical or logistical?
     
  14. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

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    I can answer for him: logistical. He's "complained" about it often. I'd be upset too.
     
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  15. Kazuma

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    Jul 30, 2007
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    It's not limited to Florida, though. It's a progressive school where this mindset is prevalent. See the measles outbreak in NYC at a private progressive school, the whopping cough outbreak at a school in Canada, and a chicken pox outbreak in North Carolina. There's a reason the antivax movement is associated with affluent left wing enclaves.

    Much as I'm more left leaning than my parents, I'm grateful they didn't send me to such schools. (Although my mom did consider sending me to Catholic school).
     
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  16. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

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    Which whooping cough outbreak?

    If it's the Fredericton one from 2019, care to explain how that's connected to an affluent left wing enclave?
     
  17. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    If not reading is misreading then yeah.
     
  18. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    The crazy thing is that Dutch births are up big in March 2021...not enough to balance out 2020, but enough to say "Brummie was wrong." I thought births would stay down in all 2020.

    Although the reason why births are up in March is precisely why they will collapse again in August and September...
     
  19. Paul Berry

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    United Kingdom - Historical Birth Rate Data
    Year Birth Rate Growth Rate
    2021 11.377 -0.490%
    2020 11.433 -0.480%
    2019 11.488 -0.480%
    2018 11.543 -1.540%
    2017 11.724 -1.520%
    2016 11.905 -1.490%
    2015 12.085 -1.480%
    2014 12.266 -1.450%
    2013 12.447 -0.150%
    Link
     
  20. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
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    Not that one, this one, which is unsurprisingly from a Waldorf school.

    Just to add, the reason I say affluent left wing enclaves is that these types of schools are not cheap, tend to embrace a more progressive mindset (95% chance there's a "In this house we believe" yard sign), and tend to live in more well off places. I can't speak for Calgary, but I would not be surprised if the students and parents lived in well off neighborhoods.
     
  21. russ

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    As I'm sure you're aware the progressivism in those areas is largely of the White Savior variety.
     
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  22. chad

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    [​IMG]
     
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  23. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
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    Wealthy, yes, sure.

    A left wing enclave though? Highly unlikely. Not in Calgary.

    From a political stand point, Alberta is very much like our (insert a random red state in the US Bible belt). They have elected a left leaning government once in the last 70 years.

    I dont have a particular opinion on your overall point. But there is no way this school is a progressive left wing hub.
     
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