Chicharito & Efrain Alvarez @ L.A. Laxatives

I'd put the MLS around Peru's level, TBH.

 

No way... MLS is alot better than the Peruvian league... I would put MLS below the Brasilian, Argentine, Mexican and Colombian league. The Uruguayan league has two or three decent teams at the top just like the Chilean league, but those league are a shellof what they once were. I think in the next couple of years MLS will be right up there with the Mexican League. The only reason it is not there yet is all the crazy expansion in the last three years. The talent level is spread out a little too thin, especially the defensive talent. The quality of defense has declined in the last couple of years. The talent coming into the MLS is on the offensive side. MLS is trending up, I don't see Liga MX trending down, but definitely not up.

 

With that expansion and lack of defense? That's not gonna happen.

 

El inicio de temporada de Chicharito:

➤ 5 goles.
➤ 2 partidos.
➤ 2 triunfos.
➤ Jornada 1: DOBLETE.
➤ Jornada 2: HAT-TRICK.
➤ MVP de la semana 1.
➤ MVP de la semana 2.
➤ XI ideal semana 1.
➤ XI ideal semana 2.
➤ Igualó el mejor arranque goleador de la MLS.

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Its already happening, look how close the results have been the last two years in the Concacaf Champions league with the Liga MX teams. Not saying MLS is better, but is is trending up and a lot of teams are now investing a lot more in their academies and also most teams have the money to sign better foreign players. The league is better organized, has more vision than Liga MX and it is just a matter of time till it surpasses Liga MX. Not celebrating that fact, but it seems inevitable.

 

MLS fanboys have been saying the same shit for 25+ years and nothing

 

Honestly a lot of people here like to deny things because of their hatred for the US.

Not saying MLS is better then Liga MX; because it’s not.

Although in the future that could be the case.

The US is a powerhouse when it comes to Entertainment & Sports. So it’s only a matter of time, till they catch up to Liga Mx.

Liga Mx just has to keep pushing to be better.

 

You can't do that with that model. You can't surpass another league by constantly diluting your talent level. You can't do that if you have a salary cap which could allow you to bring better talent instead of the occasional overpay for an over the hill guy or an unproven guy from somewhere else and you can't do that if you have stuff like P2P which hampers your capabilities to produce players (specially if the good guys you do produce, leave your league for peanuts). It's more likely than a league such as the Honduran, Costarrican or the Canadian caughts up with MLS than the MLS catching up with the Mexican or South American league.

 

Again, been hearing this since the late 90s. Still waiting.

 

First of all I'm not a fan boy of the MLS, bit when MLS first started or shortly there after DC United and LA Galaxy won the Concacaf. But MLS still did not grow until it changed their structure somewhat by forming academy teams and allowing more freedom for the investors to run their teams. Liga MX was pretty pedestrian in the 90's... I believe teams from Costa Rica won concacaf like three years in a row a believe. Liga MX was clearly better in tge 2000's, when in fact they had less foreigners per team... they proved it with great participation in Libertadores. But slowly MLS is catching up because of Mexico's failure to grow the league. Look we have 18 teams, about 8 to 10 have solid financial backing or ownership. Then we have teams that don't pay their players enough, don't pay players on time...don't value them yet keep them from going to another team etc... liga de expansion only has three or four solid economically teams and I'm being generous... unless Liga MX changes, it will definitely be passed up... not saying the US national team, that' a different story... just MLS will be better... not sauing it for 25 years as you said but have been saying for tge last two or three... as a matter a fact I thought MLS almost went belly up in the early 2000's.

 

Did you know MLS was actually struggling financially before the pandemic? Can't even begin to imagine how they're doing now.

Not sure why you're talking about the smaller Liga MX teams struggling economically as if that's any indication of the MLS catching up. If it wasn't for expansion teams injecting new money into the league (a trend that's not sustainable), MLS would already be deep in the red, if not bankrupt.

We have to let go of the idea that the MLS being an American League automatically makes it a financial model of success. It's been a total wreck in that regard.

 

Over expansion will be the death of MLS. Diluted league struggling for relevancy

 

Okay Rik

 

However they won those two tournaments does not matter... remember our Mexican teams always have the fans on our side... MLS teams had no home advantage because they didn't even have fan bases back then. Most MLS will be turning a profit soon, remember most are paying for new stadiums... I don't understand why some Liga MX fans get upset here for those comments... I myself watch more Liga MX games, but I also watch some MLS games and the level is getting better and the players they are producing are garnering more attention abroad than ours. Academies or fuerzas basicas were not existing until like 10 years ago and they are finally producing good players. We need to take a good look at ourselfs and figure out why are league has stalled.

 

I stopped reading right there.....

 

The only thing MLS is better than ligamx is exposure and promoting its product. MLS is shown in England and a lot of other countries I think as well.

Ligamx can learn a bit from that I dont think ligamx is shown on any other country outside of the Americas.

 

I haven't seen anyone here get upset, though feel free to point it out if I've missed it.

The MLS isn't failing economically because of the new stadiums. It's failing because of revenue. Attendance figures were bad (pre-pandemic) and TV viewership ratings bar the latter playoff games have been terrible. You can't build a successful league when no one watches your product. This is essentially why they want a merger; because once the ponzi scheme ends they're going to be in big trouble. This tweet explains it better than I ever will:

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As for exporting young players to Europe, Liga MX has always struggled with exporting players at a young age, but that doesn’t mean Liga MX doesn’t have comparable quality in the league. On the contrary, I think Liga MX stands to learn from MLS in being able to export even the more mediocre players like McKenzie and Reynolds.

 

I do think in 10 to 15 years there will a correction in the MLS model... and a couple of teams will fold... bit not the league, there is too much money behind it from powerful companies. The fan base pre-pandemic was growing and more importantly almost all new teams own their oen stadiums so they control their oen revenue. This is something Liga Mx teams should encourage all their teams to do. We know both Monterrey teams are fine financially... , Santos, Tijuana, Toluca, Chivas, Pachuca, America*... and few other have partial ownership of their stadiums... we have Leon, who supposedly will build a new, we will see... Necaxa, San Luis, Querataro, Puebla, Juarez, even Cruz Azul and Pumas don't own their own stadiums... I know Pumas has a patronato and has I'm sure a good deal on Estadio Olympico... Mexico desperately needs to end multi propiedad... and sign a league TV deal... I know its almost impossible to do that we Televisa and TVazteca owning teams... and commecialize the league as a whole. The new president of the liga MX is looking for foreign investers because he knows MLS is trending upwards and for Liga MX to survive as we know it, it will need to get money from abroad. I think Liga MX should not fuse with MLS, because quite honestly we can't compete on a financial basis with MLS with the exception of four or five teams. As far as level of play Liga MX is now only a small step ahead of MLS... when 10 years ago I thought it was two steps ahead.

 

Getting back to Chicharito. Even though his five goals in MLS does not mean the same as scoring in Europe, for a proven goal scorer like Chicharito, I think it does wonders for his confidence and it serves us will to call him back up to the National team. Obviously if Raul was healthy he would be our #1 striker, but I would prefer Chicharito over a Funes-Mori call-up any day.

 

I stopped reading here. Your posts have been subjective up until now.

Back to Cheech.

 

Getting back to Chicharito. Even though his five goals in MLS does not mean the same as scoring in Europe, for a proven goal scorer like Chicharito, I think it does wonders for his confidence and it serves us will to call him back up to the National team. Obviously if Raul was healthy he would be our #1 striker, but I would prefer Chicharito over a Funes-Mori call-up any day.

 

I'm subjective... I want Liga MX to always be better, but it has to change to stay ahead. You tell me why you think it will stay ahead...