Tyler Adams at AFC Bournemouth

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by TheFalseNine, Jul 11, 2018.

  1. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    And I don't like that EPB seriously believes that he is faster than Adams. That might be a problem,
     
  2. run_it_out

    run_it_out Member+

    Earthquakes
    United States
    Jun 19, 2018
    The original statement that got me going was that Tyler is *right now* a top 5 DM in the world. That is not a statement about predicting the future, that is saying that he is *right now* pretty close to the level of Casemiro or Wilfred Ndidi. My point is that he might one day be at that level but is not yet. I don't see how it is pessimistic to say that at the moment, at the age of 22, Adams is not yet Casemiro. That is not pessimistic, the experts seem to agree that there are some things he needs to work on defensively. Also, he regularly starts, but not always, and not always in the midfield. If he were a top 5 player in the world at his position, he would be a first-choice lock-down starter at that position for a club like Leipzig, probably with rumors swirling that he was on his way to an even bigger stage. Saying otherwise is not tearing down our own players.

    I love Adams, I tune into RB Leipzig when they play, I root for him, I am excited to see his growth for club and country. But when I hear statements like he is a top-5 DM in the world, all I can think of is the needless hyping that has happened over US players for decades. About Kasey Keller being the top GK in the world. Or people on Bigsoccer saying they would rather have Adu than Messi after the U-20 world cup. (It's true! You can look it up!)

    Sorry, I said I was done, but the darned Bigsoccer keeps alerting me to new posts in the thread! :)
     
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  3. matabala

    matabala Member+

    Sep 25, 2002
    You can always tell a naive Innocent. You just can't tell it much. Sweet Dreams...
     
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  4. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    I flaunt my "man of the people" credentials. Helps with voters :D
     
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  5. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Isn't it easy enough to simply know he's respected among other young midfielders in the league?
     
  6. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Umm, sorry, he was turned. It was another example of Muller's excellence, and if you needed yet another example, wait for about 30 minutes and watch him leave Adams again in the 2nd half almost leading to another goal. That is not Adams being a bad defender. I think he's a very good defender, but Muller is just class, and Adams will do nothing but learn from those two failures. You can't learn by being right all the time!
     
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  7. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Apparently I struck a nerve. I didn’t address you in my posts, yet you went after me.

    I have made no claims about Adams future on this thread, yet you seem to think I have. What statements of mine here makes you want to charge me with all these defects? You can’t find one, right? What you are upset about is that I called generally out a kind of silly negativity here, and you saw yourself in what I criticized.

    You know nothing about me. You are lashing out. Relax. Message boards are not real life.
     
  8. chrome_vapors

    chrome_vapors Member+

    Oct 15, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Such a high quality game this weekend and Adam's was at the very center of it.

    In a match featuring the 2nd best team in the Bundesliga and Bayern Munich, a 22 year old from New York was one of the most technically gifted and a aesthetically pleasing players to watch of all.
     
  9. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Maybe Adams is in the wrong position?
     
  10. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    this is the primary value of being in the best leagues, isn't it? Some players will be crushed by the intense pressure, a few will be the aforementioned diamonds. Adams is heading toward diamond status, but it's going to take top level displays by people like Muller to get him there..
     
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  11. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Because at 22 he got schooled by an exceptional player, having one of his best matches of an exceptional season?
    The problem with playing Bmunch is that, for any other team in the Bund, you're against, at every single position, a player for whom there is a legitimate argument to be made for a Bund best 11.Every season there are a couple exceptions and every off season Bmunch at least tries to buy those players.
     
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  12. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What, like in the XI? You play that role, you are going to find yourself in that position. If you aren't a striker, most players are going to have to 1 v 1 defend a time or two. He'll take this and get better I assume. It wasn't that he was being played out of position.
     
  13. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One of the best run clubs by a country mile that's for sure. Having a midfield of Kimmich and Goretzka should actually be a crime against humanity.
     
  14. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Article from Germany:

    https://rblive.de/ueber-rb-leipzig/...ueberzeugt-bei-rb-leipzig-mit-mehr-ruhe-19190

    This is due to his leap in performance, which his trainer highlighted at the beginning of March. "His development this year is outstanding," he said now. Last season Adams had problems with the ball in particular. "He was often too hectic and didn't find his position," said Nagelsmann.

    The bottom line is that, together with Amadou Haidara, he remains the player with the greatest progress in recent months. "It's been extraordinary for Tyler in the last ten or twelve weeks, that's reflected in the playing time."
     
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  15. derek750

    derek750 Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  16. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do we really think Adams got better over the past year? I don’t really buy it. Maybe he got healthier.
     
  17. Monarch Bay Beachbum

    Apr 5, 2004
    The OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Starting at right back today.
     
  18. frankburgers

    frankburgers Member+

    May 31, 2016
    He’s coming off injured. He’s been holding his back

    :(
     
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  19. frankburgers

    frankburgers Member+

    May 31, 2016
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    Off at half.
     
  20. adi21

    adi21 Member

    The ones that have Americans starting
    United States
    Mar 17, 2001
    Maryland
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He played RWB
     
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  21. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Isn't that the point of going to Europe, to get better? Also get paid more, but improving is one of the cliched reasons folks want to play against the best.
     
  22. Nastrabrahmus

    Nastrabrahmus Member+

    Mar 29, 2012
    San Diego, CA
    Didn’t seem serious as he played through the rest of 1st half. Glad it’s not a leg Injury
     
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  23. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I saw him holding his back after the hockey assist on the second goal. Odd injury for a kid his age. He looked like me after playing hoops with my kid.
     
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  24. mace

    mace Member+

    Indy 11
    United States
    Jun 5, 2004
    USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder if Sarge taking him out is what hurt his back?
     
  25. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My money is on Nagelsmann knowing way more than you when it comes to Adams.
     
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