Covid-19: American Acceptionalism

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  1. Covid-19: American Acceptionalism

    22 vote(s)
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  2. My Covid-19th Nervous Breakdown

    8 vote(s)
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  3. Covid-19: Killing in the Name

    4 vote(s)
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  4. Covid-19: But my Freedom!

    3 vote(s)
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  5. Covid-19: The Final Thread. This tie for sure

    3 vote(s)
    7.5%
  1. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Do we need a new voting thread? Seems a hot topic
     
  2. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I seem to remember there were some other Kafka style cases where government department refused to issue birth certificates to citizens?

    That gets crazy where the department disputes the contents of it's own registry
     
  3. chaski

    chaski Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 20, 2000
    redacted
    Club:
    Lisburn Distillery FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Turks and Caicos Islands
    Even when a birth certificate is easy to get, it is not free. I got one years ago so that I could get a passport. Now I don't know where the certificate is. If I want to get another one, it will cost $28 at the County Recorder's office.
     
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  4. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Right. I don't think you should vote if you don't want to vote. In Argentina most people end up voting, so it does work in terms of getting people participating.

    Very few people choose not to vote. If you don't vote, you get fined. In practice they are not going to go after you, but they record it, and if you ever need a passport or another federal document they won't give it to you unless you pay the fine.

    Also, you have the option of voting "en blanco" (blank), and in a typical election around 1 to 2 percent of the people choose to do so, to make the point that they don't like any of the candidates or the system itself.
     
  5. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    Many times it comes down to acquiring the correct ID. First you may have to get to your home county municipal office, at your expense, no matter the distance, or the hours that they are open (usually only during regular work hours) to get a voter ID card.

    Once there, you can present an acceptable ID. Drivers License? Sure. Birth Certificate, great. Passport, excellent. Easy for old-fart, suburban professional me to produce.

    Now, what else is accepted? Gun License? Perhaps. Military ID? Why sure, thank you for your service, we support our troops!

    How about not accepted? Student ID, you ain't from around here. Public Benefits card? No, sorry, we already told you what type of ID's we allow.

    So the scales are tipped in a certain direction of how to prove oneself in order to be able have your 'right' to vote.

    If all ID were considered valid, I'd have no problem with voter ID.
     
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  6. Dage

    Dage Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The mRNA technology is probably also the answer to cancer, producing antibodies who can destroy cancer cells.
     
  7. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Copied from Referee Forum.....:(

    WaPo article today: "Are youth sports an engine of B.1.1.7 outbreaks?"

    "Dan Culhane, 62, took extraordinary precautions when he returned to the ice as a youth hockey referee in January. He triple-masked, wore a plexiglass face shield on his helmet and donned his gear at home to minimize time indoors.

    "It wasn’t enough.

    "Culhane, who died on Feb. 28 of covid-19, is one of more than 189 people confirmed or suspected to be linked to an unusual youth sports outbreak of the coronavirus in Carver County, Minn., driven by the B.1.1.7 variant that was first seen in the United Kingdom. The interlinked cases span all levels of K-12 schools, from elementary to high school, and 18 hockey, four basketball, three lacrosse and one soccer teams."

    More at:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/04/06/youth-sports-outbreaks-covid-testing/
     
  8. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    My answer back is, prove you're legally in the country Yuro Boy.
     
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  9. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Yep, I just had to do that personally about 2 years ago, when I officially changed my name. Also, new Social Security card, DL, State ID, Passport, etc.

    Also, as I have mentioned, I have had to do that for client. It can be a pain.
     
  10. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Yes, please.
     
  11. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    My pigmentation is also sun-unfriendly, and yet I still got stopped.

    In retrospect, I think I probably shouldn't have been using my business' old beat up cargo van to drive to San Diego, that was probably what triggered the stops, but how else are you going to make deliveries?
     
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  12. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Or, he picked it up elsewhere.
     
  13. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    It's insular thinking, honestly. My dad and sister have been around the globe for work and leisure, both are engineers and brilliant in their own ways, especially in their own subject matter, but when it comes to other subjects, they think they know the subject. They usually shut up quickly when someone who is knowledgeable takes them to task.
     
  14. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    To be honest, Michigan's going through a Covid surge right now. One of the factors is due to indoor school sports being allowed. I wouldn't be surprised if it's other factors, but once Whitmer lifted restrictions on indoor sports cases went up massively.
     
  15. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    Who says sun-unfriendly? I tan like a mo-fo. Yeah vans and southern border aren't a good thing. I'm 2.5 hours from Quebec and drive a Honda.
     
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  16. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    You're gonna need a new paint job to makes sure those old photos of paletas are actually covered up! :D
     
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  17. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Governor of Montana went to church Sunday, now has COVID.
     
  18. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Which they have already trialed in early stages.
     
  19. Yeah, see the problem.
    With a passportfoto made by a shop with the right equipment and software you apply for it in an hour and a few days later you can pick it up. Has to do with biometric stuff etc. to be put on a chip in the passport.
     
  20. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    So those inscrutable Chinese created COVID in a lab so that we could cure cancer!
     
  21. How do you know the person showing the certificate is the one mentioned on the certificate?
     
  22. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    It seems odd that with all the time and money that's been spent researching HIV, it takes COVID to get scientists to even begin to have some promising news on an HIV vaccine.
     
  23. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Footprints.
     
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  24. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    That really sucks. It's like playing with three goalies, and a wall, and they still score on you.
     
  25. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    To renew my French passport I have to physically go to a consulate, embassy or Hotel de Ville (if in France). It is a royal pain, and extremely expensive, given the closest consulate to me is in San Francisco. However, it is nonetheless more "secure" than renewing my American passport, which I did entirely through the mail.
     
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