These MLS moves could be interesting for our younger guys looking for some international experience. No disrespect to the MLS, but the overall quality of the league is still lacking, but salary + perks of living stateside do make a compelling case for clubs to consider those transfers. A few good seasons for a 19 or 20 year old could get the eyes of some Euro clubs and definitely the MX clubs. The US sports media market is huge, so guys coming stateside absolutely should be cognizant of the watchful eye of the press and pundits. This is generally one of my biggest concerns for our guys going abroad. Media management is a huge issue that clubs need to train players on, and honestly, it's never done well. Good luck to Vallencilla! Cincy is a pretty cool town even if it isn't a huge city. The view to Kentucky's rolling hills and forests are pretty amazing.
Say what you want about MLS but every South American country is sending promising young players to MLS. Some of our player are becoming too pricey for Europe it easier for them to scout African and Asian Players. It gonna be harder and harder for some of these guys to make it to Europe but if MLS wants to pay who are we to complain. It been a good move for most of our players so far. Alvarado is really killing it in the pre season and there is a noticeable improvement in his game I really cant wait for the season to start and watch him play. Im a little upset Joao Rojas(Emelec) didnt move to NYCFC that would have been a great move for him.
Any player that can prove their worth to a club willing to pay/acknowledge that value will make a deal in Europe. The biggest overall budgets in the world are presently in the top 5 leagues of Europe. The biggest issue with Ecuadorians is validation and track record....if you look back at historical perspective, Ecuadorians are still generally untested (except for AV25) to show a "safe investment" versus, for example, Brazilians, Argentinians or maybe Uruguayans. Our pedigree is still requiring some grooming. It's part branding and part track record when it comes to these transfers. Also, lots of nonsense starts happening with bogus agents and lots of people lining up and ruining negotiations (like Moises Caicedo + Manchester United) that has hampered a lot of negotiations in Ecuador. Take a look at clubs in Europe - for example Leicester, MU, or maybe ATMadrid, who throws down 30-40M on a player but might not be willing to pay 5M for someone like Moises Caicedo...why is that? The MLS is still a work in progress and watching their games is sometimes insufferable, but the product is improving as time passes. Young kids will leave S. America if they can't get looks in Europe and go to the MLS because it's a reasonable step forward financially despite the prospects of making less money in the US (they don't fall into the Designated Player slot) so their baseline salaries are probably 300-600k per year. Not bad for a young kid, but probably 30% less than what they'd get in Europe. Remember- the salary cap is a huge issue that the MLS has to grapple with + negotiation structures (the league still approves transfers which is ridiculous.)
It not even track record anymore the interest from Euro teams to sign Ecuadorian players is there. Let look at Cifuentes. He got a number of teams looking at him and rumors going for him. Im pretty sure him and Sergio Quinteros, Diego Placios went threw what happened with Moises Caicedo. All these shady negotiations drove the Euro teams away and to their bad luck MLS came threw and was willing to put the most money. Moises almost went to MLS but he shut them down. Look at Argentina, Uruguay and Colombia, Chile. They are sending quite a few young promising talents to MLS. It shocking cause the Argentinean league isnt sending players straight to europe like they used too. Brazil will start sending players there too. Brenner Souza da Silva move to MLS was a huge surprise and I know more and more of these young Brazilian players will start moving there too. Euro teams are seeing Africa and Asia as much easier places to scout and grab talent. It much cheaper, probably less media attention which ruins our negotiations, and probably easier to get visas and players to adapt to Europe. Im telling you it gonna get alot harder for South American Talent to go to Europe if this continues. The media and players reps are what making it harder for us.
Brazil and Argentina are outliers just because of volume of players.... Regarding the MLS, the actual negotiation and contracting process is a nightmare for any agent/player and club to engage in. The league negotiates and requires approval. Plus, salary caps and DP designations make the issue less attractive for the most exciting and promising talent. As a whole, the MLS league is just not as competitive. Business-wise, it's a mess. Look at what happened with that Argentinian kid who signed with Inter Miami and then got sent to the development squad because of DP stipulations. It's crazy....21 year old kid going to some sister team on a contractual technicality. MX is a way more competitive league and friendlier to negotiation and transfer procedures b/c there's club autonomy to dictate payment and contract terms. Clubs need to professionalize across Ecuador and the agent relationship system needs to clean up in order to get a smooth process for negotiation. Ultimately, Moises losing out on a bigger club is also a major loss to IDV. Big teams command (typically) higher transfer rates, which is a loss of windfall funds to IDV in this case.
I know this didn't end up happening but just wanted to invade this thread saying how different he is compared to the rest of the league. A key piece for Cristal due to his superior physique. One of the best players in the league. He had a bit of a slow start this year though but I have no doubt he'll be back on form soon.
Maybe the same happens in leagues around the world but I feel like in Ecuador too many get involved. Agents have connections to specific leagues. One may work with Liga MX clubs, another may have connections with MLS or European clubs. It's no wonder it can get confusing.
I haven't watched him this season so I don't know what's going with him. I've been meaning to watch him play Libertadores but I haven't had a chance. You have to wonder if Emanuel Herrera no longer being part of the team has something to do with his drop in form.
Nah, it's not so much his numbers, it's more his consistency. He isn't always running at goal and missing more chances than usual, but that doesn't change his ability. This past weekend he looked very good for the first time this year, and I reckon once he gets going he'll improve upon 2020. Last year he had a bit of a slow start as well I should note.
This is why I want him called to the NT. It will def elevate his game and put him on the radar for bigger teams.
Hopefully his form gets better. If he had a good start to the season and performed well in Libertadores he had a chance of getting called up to the NT. He's on the outside looking in right now though. The left winger role is wide open. I guess he still has a chance but right now there's players ahead of him.
If he got called up to the NT and received minutes I have no doubt he would have been sold to a foreign league by now.
This why I was hyped for Jordy move to Bulgaria. https://www.futbolecuador.com/site/noticia/me-ha-llamado-el-psv-entrevista/128943
The kid can ball, no doubt about it. Hoping the actual inquiries turn into real negotiations and possible contract offers. We've seen these things play out many times before and not always for the better. So hopefully Jordy's case is different...an expression of interest is merely that - interest. I personally hope for a PSV move. The dutch league, as a whole, is a great talent development system and he would definitely shine in that country with proper coaching and of course...the MINDSET!
I still look at Walberto Caicedo (Marcos Caicedo Brother) and Bryan De Jesus (Marlon De Jesus brother) they had a good run in similar Euro Leagues and messed up and returned to Ecuador because of poor mindset. What really made me keep and eye on him is the fact that he announced it to be his goal to go to the NT going to this team. He has the qualities, physic and is showing the mindset so far. Udinese announced a formal offer. I really hope the rumors from PSV and Basel start developing as well.
https://ecuagol.com/noticias/ecuato...a-es-encontrado-en-fiesta-clandestina/170264/ Disappointed in him smh
Him and Juan Cazares in Brazil will repeatedly do this get separated from their squad and come back eventually. Im Surprised Juan Is still getting picked up from top Brazilian teams with his discipline issues. And Sao Paulo Arboleda already Had the sandal where he wore a rival shirt. He got caught in parties and drinking before. I think one pre covid and one again during so this is his 4th time for them then 5th with the NT team sandal.
Well that's a big reason why these two never made the jump to Europe. All the physical gifts in the world, which the almighty has bestowed upon them, and they still need to get lit or just be dumb. Plain and simple - it's unbecoming of a professional being paid to represent their employer in a certain way. If I was a player rep, I'd be looking to cash out and go elsewhere to rep other guys fast. Cazares is one of the most disappointing stories in recent years from Ecuador when it comes to this issue. High IQ vision/passing like Edison Mendez and pace like Ulises De La Cruz in his prime but he couldn't ever get past the hump. He peaked too early, all the clout got to his head. I met him when he was 18 on the seleccion back in 2011 and we were friendly for years on facebook. He was a lost cause almost from the onset and wanted to be like Neymar- but without the contract and without the followers.
I'm not the biggest fan of Cazares being part of the NT. He's an undisciplined player and if I were a coach I wouldn't want that around my team. He had the talent to make it in England or Germany. He lacked the work ethic and professionalism though. He's not even in the best shape. Esta panzon. Arboleda is the best center back we have right now. Some people said he shouldn't have been called up and it's a valid statement in my opinion. What if he got infected with covid and got other players sick. Look what happened to River a couple of weeks back. That could happen to anyone. The margin for error in world cup qualifiers is minimal. He is who is at this stage in his career. He's no longer some young kid who's still finding his way. That being said I hope he gets his shit in order. There's some young players coming up that are hungry for glory.
Agree Cazares hasnt even gotten that much playing time either he came off bench the past few games playing about 30-20 min. My guess is that Alfaro really wants to use Diaz and him for their Creativity vs Brazil. I hope it plays out well.
Looks like Napoli is the first team to bite at Hincapie. 10M Euro offer for the transfer. IDV and Talleres will split the transfer fee as each team has 50% of his rights. I suspect a bidding war will ensue between other interested clubs, but I don't see any offers exceeding 15M Euro for his services...and I wouldn't go over that amount if I was a club despite his upside. Higher transfers = high demands up front, and if you're not mentally suited to manage those trials and tribulations, take the lower offer, ply your trade, and really skill-up. Napoli is a competitive team and the Italian league is a great place for defenders to succeed. https://www.calcionapoli24.it/calci...-per-il-giovane-centrale-hincapi-n488356.html