The official Jackson Yueill thread

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  1. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Yeah maybe someday may he’ll get some starts so that he can do it! :)

    Seriously though, not that he’s suddenly become a major scoring threat, but how about starting Jack at the Quakes CAM spot, with Remedi and Judson begins him? Our CAM role tends to be a deeper role in general anyway. Make Chofis show he deserves the spot in his sub / spot start roles as he gets familiar with the league.
     
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  2. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe that will give him the confidence to try more shots like that. ;)
     
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  3. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    He's hit some pretty good medium range shots for the Quakes, and scored a few. But they weren't bangers, they were more about placement. But he shows he's got it in him. He should try more of those, and if he played CAM he'd have more opportunities.
     
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  4. jetdog9

    jetdog9 Member+

    Nov 14, 2007
    Bay Area, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't get a chance to watch the game, how would folks rate him for the rest of the match? The goal matters a ton, just wondering.
     
  5. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Sadly, if Jackson keeps scoring goals like he did yesterday at the international level, he won't be on the Quakes for very long.
     
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  6. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    He's had almost 7000 minutes in MLS and scored 4 goals. That's a goal every 1700 minutes. We should not kid ourselves. He hasn't suddenly become a goal scoring machine. That's not his game. But regardless we know he's a really good player and is certainly good enough to play in Europe.
     
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  7. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I think the difference is that more eyes are on national team games than earthquakes games - so his stock is more likely to gain currency from this tournament than a whole season of MLS. I will not be surprised if he departs this summer for sunnier shores. Of course, I'm confident that any transfer fee will go directly to the acquisition of new DPs...

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  8. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    If he plays well whether he scores or not for club or country, he will go to Europe. If players with lesser talent can get signed, I'm sure Jackson will someday too.
     
  9. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Agreed. Goals or not, anytime you stand out in international competition, it's a very good sign for your prospects.
     
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  10. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Best US player BY FAR but it wasn't enough regardless. He was the only other US player that should have even been on the field quite frankly. It seems like JY needs much better players around him to excel.
     
  11. SJTillIDie

    SJTillIDie Member+

    Aug 23, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the problem with that is Yueill is more comfortable in the Pirlo role, spraying medium range balls around from deep to get Espinoza, Tommy, Lopez, et al into dangerous spots in the final third.
     
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  12. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Jackson was the only player on Sunday who had heart and who could be moved up to the Senior team.

    The rest , (at least from Sunday's game) I wouldn't field at all at the senior level.
     
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  13. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #338 JazzyJ, Mar 30, 2021
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2021
    Yeah but the Almeyda Quakes CAM is a fairly deep role anyway. Magnus hit a lot of medium range “progressive” passes from near midfield. That was his game. In that same role, Rios was most effective spraying switching balls from around the same spot, say 10 yards inside the center line. Jackson would and does excel at either of those things. And if he has some more confidence in his medium to long range shot from the center, all the better. He seems to be better at that shot than either Magnus or Rios, and he has better footwork than either to buy the space. And this is a way to get our 3 best center mids on the field at the same time.

    We’ll see how Chofis does but I predict he will have primarily a regular sub and spot start role, especially at the start as he settles into the league.

    Finally, if you watch Remedi’s highlights he’s dropping a lot of Pirlo dime kinds of passings from deep positions. I’m
    reserving judgment until I see him play more, but this seems to be a forte of his, if not his primary forte.
     
  14. DasMoots

    DasMoots Member

    Sep 6, 2010
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    The Quakes would be fools to sell Jackson!!

    He's already our Captain when Wondo isn't on the field and as this is likely Wondo's last season Jackson would be our full time captain moving forward. Yes there may be an opportunity to sell him abroad but because of his age (24) I don't see him going to a top team in a top league. And so the offers may come from smaller clubs with less to spend, maybe in the 6M range.

    The Quakes resigned him last year for 2 seasons. Better they increase his contract to DP level next summer (2022) if he continues to impress and then lock him in until he's 28 or 29. We are going to need a leader and a Captain for the next 5 plus years and he's already in house!!

    I have no problem with flipping Cade and any other teens in the coming years but not Jackson as the return will not be great enough IMO.
     
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  15. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    While I don’t disagree, the problem is that I think Jessie is desperate to prove out his “selling club” thing to Fish, or he’s liable to lose his job. Sadly I think the Lima trade was partly about that, even at the meager $500k level or whatever it was.

    Jessie’s going to want to show Fish he can “do it like Billy” and barter players at their peak. If Cade shows more promise next year it could be him but if he stagnates I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see it be Jackson first. Almeyda has already said either that he can play in Europe or he should play in Europe - can’t remember exactly how it was framed.
     
  16. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Back in reality.....

    "eyeballs of the world":

    -World Cup
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    -national team
    -Olympics (no US men for the third time in a row)
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    -MLS
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    -Concacaf U-23 Olympic qualifying
     
  17. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Olympics & Youth teams mean nothing....

    The World Cup is where the money is at.....
     
  18. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's why I placed the World Cup far above everything else, Einstein.
     
  19. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Only if they qualify for the WC this time ....
     
  20. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow! Written like a Quakesfan! I totally see what you want and why.

    On the one hand, I want to agree with you, I want Jackson to stay with our team and for us to build around him.

    BUT, this is Fisher’s team and that f@#$er will sell Jackson in a heartbeat. Yeah, I can see Jackson going to Europe in the summer window. Even for only $4M or $5M. That’s enough money to offset a fair chunk of Fisher’s losses on the team, so he’ll be up for selling. Fisher is a cheap bastard. He’ll sell Jackson for the first decent offer. He doesn’t give a shit how bad we are on the pitch.

    Sorry.

    GO Quakesfans!!

    - Mark
     
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  21. DasMoots

    DasMoots Member

    Sep 6, 2010
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Unfortunately you may be right about JF's mindset...
     
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  22. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes

    So, I suppose that means you know about all of the scouts and what tournaments they scout? Please...
     
  23. chris thebassplayer

    Feb 18, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Jackson played well...fantastic goal. That's what captains do...tried his best to lift the team.

    We had the bad lapse right before the half on the first goal and the howler keeper mistake....but I was really annoyed how small and intimidated our attackers played. Ferriera playing a dropping false 9 meant Lewis and Mikhalovic needed to have solid bold proactive games. Mika was marshmallow soft and invisible...Lewis was better but had zero quality at the moment of truth...multiple chances to do better... Ferriera couldn't connect with any attackers...Just primary trapping and passing in the attack was so poor...no continuity and very little options for Jackson to play to.

    We needed a plan B if the false 9 based attack didn't work and we had no option to go to...Tessman would have been a huge improvement as a starter...

    But Jackson showed well ...real proud of his grit, skill and determination...definitely showed he has the Right Stuff for nats duty
     
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  24. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    The Honduras goals were a little fluky, especially the 2nd, but I can't honestly say that Honduras didn't outplay the U.S. Very disappointing... Oh, well, I'm sure Muma was very happy. Seems like so many changes game to game by Kreis was not helpful.
     
  25. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are you expecting many of those Honduran U-23s to make big money transfers to Euro clubs in the summer window before the Olympics?

    Can you list a single Concacaf U-23 who moved to Europe based on their performance in Olympic qualifying?

    Alberth Elis almost singlehandedly beat the US five years ago:

    Alberth Elis scored in the 24th and 77th minutes, and Honduras beat the U.S. 2-0 on Saturday to qualify for next year's Rio de Janeiro Games.
    That got him a move to... Mexico, followed by MLS. He finally got his move to Europe last year after 3 years in MLS.


    Also are you even aware that the U-21 Euros are happening right now? Take a look at some of those rosters (France, Portugal) and it should be pretty obvious where scouts have their eyes at the moment...
     
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