England Senior Team General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Jul 11, 2018.

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  1. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    They've played three at the back quite a bit this season, with Trippier as wing back.
    5 assists in 14 games isn't a bad return, and WhoScored have him with the 7th highest rating in La Liga this year.
     
  2. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    That's not true at all. In Simeone's system the fullbacks are often among the most advanced players on the pitch, even with a back four.
     
  3. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Trippier's also played the wing-back role for England plenty of times so it's a bit of a non-issue. It's a young squad, and I wouldn't be in a mad rush to bin an experienced and reliable player who's arguably having a better season than any of his competition.
     
  4. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Yeah, I’ve no issue with Trippier being in the squad to play in his position on the right. I just don’t want to see him as cover for the left hand side where we have looked unbalanced and it gives us nothing from an attacking point of view. Square pegs in round holes isn’t what we should be doing.
     
  5. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    Really rough decisions, if Trippier goes then who is left behind; James or TAA?

    TAA is a proven big game player and James is ridiculously well rounded.
     
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  6. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    #15156 Marcho Gamgee, Feb 16, 2021
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2021
    Well, we all know Southgate will pick them all at the expense of a left back! I hate it but it’s just going to happen. :confused:

    Then again, we may get lucky and when the finals come around we might still have expanded Squads due to Covid and Countries wanting their own bubbles and not having to call up replacements from outside their bubbles so maybe 28-30 man Squads might be an option and in that case Southgate might just take an extra left back.
     
  7. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I've no problem with trippier as a player. Hes an excellent fullback. Just his age. He will be 31 this year and by the time the world Cup starts he will be 32. I just think we should be planning for the future
     
  8. Jimmy Skitz

    Jimmy Skitz Member+

    Leicester City
    England
    Nov 4, 2020
    the best player for the position is the right player, if he would be 3rd choice then by all means take someone younger but Trippier would likely be first choice in which case his age is immaterial
     
  9. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I'm speaking about retirement. Players usually retire from international football around 32/34. We don't want to go into future tournaments with young players with no tournament experience. If he carries on then great but I would like to see James in the squad even to gain experience. If trent gets injured then we would be relying on james stepping up in big game tournaments.
     
  10. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    Am I right in thinking that we normally name a 28 player pre-tournament training camp which is then whittled down to 23 midway through the camp with 5 on standby?
     
  11. Manchester21

    Manchester21 Member

    Manchester City
    England
    Jun 17, 2017
    surely you pick the best players for the tournament, regardless of age?. I don’t think we should just pick players for future tournaments. It’s about now. 31 isn’t exactly old either.

    look at Vardy he’s one of the best players in the league, I’d have him in our squad any day. De Bruyne is 30.

    tripper right now is better then James and is proving it for the best team in Spain. James is very inconsistent and it looks like might not be first choice for Chelsea either
     
  12. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I hope ur right and he keeps going
     
  13. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    Will be an absolute travesty if Musiala gets called up over Maddison. Doubt Southgate would sink that low anyway. Even Jones is ahead of Musiala.
     
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  14. Fullerov

    Fullerov Member

    Bristol Rovers
    Nov 30, 2004
    Club:
    Bristol Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    There are other RBs around so it;'s hardly James and TAA or bust.

    Also, I think if we prioritise younger players for the future then that future may never come. As things stand we have two big tournaments in the next 2 years and we should pick the best players regardless of age, as I'd rather try and win those than be looking at the next things down the road.
     
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  15. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Either way trippier isn’t not the quickest and I prefer taa and James over him currently
     
  16. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
     
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  17. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Pickford always let's a soft goal in
     
  18. David Brooks

    David Brooks Member

    Jun 23, 2017
    When's the last time we had this kind of depth in attacking talent? Assuming we were playing a 4-2-3-1 (which we aren't...) I can see at least four quality quartets, may be more:
    Rashford, Mount, Sterling - Kane
    Grealish, Maddison, Foden - DCL
    Barnes, Barkley, Sancho - Abraham
    Saka, Smith-Rowe, Hudson-Odoi - Ings
    Musiala (or Bowen), Loftus-Cheek, Greenwood - Watkins
    That still leaves the likes of Ali, Lingard, Bamford, Antonio etc.
     
  19. Slater582

    Slater582 Member

    Jul 21, 2008
    Shrewsbury, England
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Pity Dean Henderson didn't go on loan again. Just had another solid performance in the Europa League, not as good with his feet but will make less mistakes than Pickford.
     
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  20. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
     
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  21. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    He would be in my euro squad 100 percent
     
  22. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Not so sure about that. I've seen him drop his fair share of clangers.
     
  23. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Absolutely not with Foden. It does make Grealish stand out more since everybody relies on him to be a pseudo No. 10.
     
  24. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Better to go out with your best players playing and most likely being more entertaining at least.
     
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  25. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Still have reservations on Rice, but that would suit his game better as it would everybody else.
     
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