Euro 2020 - Tickets Thread

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  1. mkdaman1818

    mkdaman1818 Member

    Manchester United
    Canada
    Feb 16, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    IMO there’s no way UEFA doesn’t make vaccinations mandatory to attend matches, because that is likely how they will be able to justify the maximum capacities for their matches. Otherwise, they’d still have to ask for social distanced seating.
     
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  2. welshbairn

    welshbairn Member+

    Clachnacuddin
    Scotland
    Jul 31, 2019
    Johnson and Johnson should get approval for a single shot vaccine in February, hopefully with more vaccines becoming available the most vulnerable will done by March/April and if you need a jag for a trip you'll be able to jump the queue by paying a few Euros.
     
  3. Real Mardin

    Real Mardin Member

    Galatasaray & Nottingham Forest
    Turkey
    Aug 22, 2019
    From what I'm hearing the problem might be less how many vaccines there are but more whether there are enough available medical people to apply them to the population quickly enough.

    If left to the NHS I'm not confident I'd have the maximum immunisation in time for the Euros, particularly considering they want to space the first and second shot three months apart. That's not a criticism of the NHS by the way, they're up against a massive challenge and will probably tackle this better than many countries.

    I agree that I can see some sort of "fast track" system for those who can pay privately in order to enable them to attend high profile employment, events and holidays.
     
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  4. welshbairn

    welshbairn Member+

    Clachnacuddin
    Scotland
    Jul 31, 2019
    Pretty sure the problem in the UK is supply rather than delivery. Pfizer promised 10 million doses by the end of December, they didn't manage 2 million, probably closer to 1 million. AZ have had trouble getting the final packaging process up to full speed, not sure how we are there. I don't think staff is a serious problem, we're used to delivering millions of flu jags in a couple of autumn months, upscaling it with military help wouldn't be that hard. Apparently you can train someone up to give the jags very quickly so long as you have trained medical staff around to keep an eye on things and able to intervene if something goes wrong. One problem is the recommendation that you keep an eye on patients for 15 minutes after the injection in case they exhibit allergic reactions, which restricts the flow especially with safe distancing, and needs more trained staff.
     
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  5. Petersonnn

    Petersonnn Member+

    Jan 7, 2016
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Not sure about that, they might not able to sell more tickets with vaccinations mandatory. Most of the under 55s not susceptible people who like to attend matches will not have the vaccine by the EUROs.

    By the way, don't you think all restrictions should be lifted when the susceptible people have been offered the vaccine (no matter if they take it or not)?
     
  6. Petersonnn

    Petersonnn Member+

    Jan 7, 2016
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Didn't they say early in pandemic that they would make 10s of millions of AZ Vaccine to be ready if it was successful. Willing to accept failure as a cost. That went well!
     
  7. mkdaman1818

    mkdaman1818 Member

    Manchester United
    Canada
    Feb 16, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    You’d still want the low-risk population to take it as a precaution, because people that fall into that low-risk classification have still died from covid. I think the right thing to do would be to enforce proof of vaccination to enter a match, whether it’s done as part of the ticket purchasing process, or at the gates itself. Of course, this could be a mess in practicality, so who knows if they do it. I know personally that while I’m part of the low-risk population, I will take the vaccine the first chance I get. Hoping it’s sooner rather than later.
     
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  8. Petersonnn

    Petersonnn Member+

    Jan 7, 2016
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    With all the respect, I just do not understand this logic. Yes SOME people have died of Covid for the low risk group - around 1 percent of overall Covid deaths approximately. (I attached the UK analysis on that) This covid crisis resulted in enormous colateral damage on top of the sadly deaths of those who caught the virus. If we make ridiculous rules like this, the colateral damage will be bigger and bigger. I would say if you are over 65, you can only go places if you are vaccinated. Otherwise, why would we restrict the healthy young people of the older ALREADY HAD A CHANCE TO PROTECT THEMSELVES BY TAKING THE VACCINE? Okay, let's say there is a tiny chance that they are still not protected by the vaccine and by you taking the vaccine you might infect less and this way you are protecting them but then we are talking about miniscule ratios. If we really making decisions based on that then we have to ban all sort of things starting with junk food which kills more people than this virus and nobody seems to be outraged about it - not to mention smoking. The whole thing is yes terribly, people dying, BUT IT HAS NOT PUT INTO PERSPECTIVE. It seems like the only thing we care about is to STOP this single virus, single disease and we do not care that your 80 year old grandma live their last 2 years seperated or somebody worked their whole life to fulfill their dreams in their career and it has been destroyed by restrictions.

    Add years to life, yes, BUT ALSO ADD LIFE TO YEARS for god's sake...
     

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  9. LaParka710

    LaParka710 Member

    Köln
    Ukraine
    Feb 20, 2020
    With all due respect, can you please stop bombarding this ticket thread with such BS about your view of the virus? The reason the 80-year-old grandma may be separated for two years and why people may be out of work longer than they should is because people are too selfish and not doing things for the common good to protect others. That's why the virus is still ever-present and as rampant as ever. Full stop. People who think it is their fundamental right to go to a New Year's Eve party or gathering with each other like it is 2018 are the problem, not the governments trying to restrict things to stop this (even though some of them have screwed up during this really hard situation).

    While we're at it, comparing it to smoking and junk food is so completely asinine. Someone eating junk food does not affect my health, my family's health, and the health of people in the community. Nor could they potentially kill an 80-year-old grandma by doing it. Someone choosing to smoke does not really either assuming they are not smoking right in the face of others constantly.

    I am hoping UEFA has restrictions to attend for my own benefit and health, but after reading this crap, I also hope they enact them to keep people like you out to protect others and keep them healthy. Views like this is why places like Europe and the US are in the shape they are in almost a year after the virus came.
     
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  10. Confizzled

    Confizzled Member

    Juventus
    Italy
    Jan 24, 2020
    Why is everyone talking about this virus bullshit? This is a ticket thread. The guy asked has anyone given any though about going if you are not vaccinated. He didn’t ask everyone to turn into a bunch of scientists.

    As for the guys question. I’m not getting the vaccine so if UEFA allows that then I’m going, if not I’m not going.
     
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  11. LaParka710

    LaParka710 Member

    Köln
    Ukraine
    Feb 20, 2020
    If you have the vouchers and/or the money, I would advise booking flights as soon as possible as some of the prices astounded me. It was 400+ USD for Budapest to Amsterdam for some reason as an example.
     
  12. LaParka710

    LaParka710 Member

    Köln
    Ukraine
    Feb 20, 2020
    Actually, I may have freaked out a bit. Oops, haha. It's just KLM being dicks, who of course, I have a voucher with. The rest of tickets aren't too bad for my dates.
     
  13. belfasteric

    belfasteric Member

    Northern Ireland
    Apr 22, 2014
    Northern Ireland
    Club:
    Glentoran FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Northern Ireland
    See the virus lads , every person i meet has their own views and opinions .no sense trying to debate it in here lets stick to the forum subject matter and see how things roll out .
     
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  14. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Well the 2 things are directly related but yeah... we don't need the BS politics talk here.
     
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  15. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Overall, the prices look pretty good to me. I was even tempted to take a vacation in January and February since flights are so cheap, but thought better of it.

    Normally I like booking tickets super early for football tournaments but just don't see how that's doable this time. UEFA is completely quiet about the format, host cities and stadium logistics for Euro 2021 and probably will remain quiet for a while longer, understandably I guess. After buying so many flights for last June-July and not using any of them I want to be near 100% sure this time before committing.
     
  16. LaParka710

    LaParka710 Member

    Köln
    Ukraine
    Feb 20, 2020
    Yeah, really KLM last night was the only one that was gouging from what I saw. Once I went over to Western Europe on my trip, it was definitely more manageable.

    I was with you on just punting in terms figuring out my flights at this point. However, the issue I am running into a bit is my voucher is less than current prices, so I am a bit torn in terms of getting it all done now or continuing to punt. I guess I'm worried that the discrepancy between voucher and current price will get much worse once it gets closer and/or details get confirmed by UEFA. Especially because some of my trip is flying into a location the day of a match.

    I'll watch prices this week and maybe I'll book some too. I think the risk of getting screwed is probably low still at this point. I think these airlines will offer vouchers again or free changes through the summer because of the slower vaccine rollout across the world.
     
  17. LaParka710

    LaParka710 Member

    Köln
    Ukraine
    Feb 20, 2020
    ESPN (and I know they're not the greatest source when it comes to football) has an article up where their sources say UEFA is discussing three scenarios. Two of them involve the venues not changing where capacity would be 70% in the best-case scenario and 30% in the other scenario. The other one, which they say is unlikely, is having it in one country in a bubble like the Champions League. Granted, the unlikely option of a bubble could be more likely as we get closer because UEFA are not going to make that call about no fans attending anytime soon. I could see them waiting to late-April/early-to-mid May on that call.

    Here's the article:
    https://www.espn.co.uk/football/uef...an-the-tournament-survive-the-covid-19-crisis
     
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  18. Real Mardin

    Real Mardin Member

    Galatasaray & Nottingham Forest
    Turkey
    Aug 22, 2019
    Interesting article.

    Without dragging the debate too OT as dark as things may appear at the moment we may be at the peak of the second wave and provided enough nations lockdown and individuals obey the social distancing rules cases may dwindle in time for the Spring for there to be hope of some sort of reduced attendance Euros going ahead. Of course, as previously alluded to on the thread you'd still have the logistical nightmare of whether to let in unvaccinated people, checking vaccination certificates etc.

    I'll say this much, if Russia does step in to save the Euros then they deserve to have their sporting ban rescinded.
     
  19. LaParka710

    LaParka710 Member

    Köln
    Ukraine
    Feb 20, 2020
    In theory because we saw it last summer, the virus should be much lower in the summer, so there is that hope also. That's not the only logistical nightmare. There's also going to be the issue of how they distribute tickets with reduced attendance to people that already have tickets. That seems like a customer service disaster for them. We saw here about how some people were pissed that UEFA did not give them their money back fast enough and this might be worse. I can just imagine how it will go if someone loses all or most of their tickets. Don't get me wrong, I would understand that disappointment, but there's also a way to handle yourself when you know UEFA is in a no-win spot.

    I can't get behind your Russia statement though, haha.
     
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  20. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Yeah, but I don’t think many people actually have tickets atm. Well below 40% capacity I would guess (apart from maybe the final). So as long as they don’t try to sell more in the next couple of months they should be ok. At most, they may need to shift some people to a different category.

    But there is the big question about having 12 host countries with fans ping-ponging their way all across Europe during a pandemic.

    Somewhat related because of the timing, the Japanese PM said he is open to the idea of reduced attendance for the Olympics in July, or making it basically a TV only event.
     
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  21. LaParka710

    LaParka710 Member

    Köln
    Ukraine
    Feb 20, 2020
    The ESPN article said 90% of tickets were sold before the pandemic with a "minimal" amount returned. Now, I don't think I believe those numbers, but if true, it will not be fun for UEFA. I could perhaps buy that 70% or 75% were sold before the pandemic because some venues (think it was Copenhagen, Budapest, Munich, London, Amsterdam, and maybe one or two more) basically had no tickets for sale in February and some places (like Dublin's knockout match) had matches that were in demand even if other matches were readily available. I also would imagine that 10% or so of tickets were returned.

    Maybe they are using 70% because they are already underneath that, but I think your 40% is low unless my 10% return rate is wrong. However, I hope your 40% is right, so we all don't have to worry about tickets being "taken away."

    I could see the host countries maybe going down to 6 or 8 due to countries wanting to bail out due to restrictions. However, I see places like Russia, Hungary, Azerbaijan, Romania, and probably England being gung-ho and making entry in and out of the country easy to host as long as the virus is not out of control. The problem will really be if Hungary basically has no restrictions, but you have to jump through a million hoops to get into Germany as an example.
     
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  22. detredwin

    detredwin Member

    Oct 30, 2019
    I saw 2 pieces of information yesterday, sorry dont have the links. First, there was a Dutch article that the Federation has stopped lobbying the government for getting the fans to Eredivisie games this season and is now just focused on getting the government to approve fans for the Euro in Amsterdam, which they think will happen. Second, there was a British article that said that UEFA will likely end up allowing different situations in different cities, despite competitive disadvantages. So, some cities may play with fans and some without, there wouldn't be a uniform requirement. I thought both items were interesting, at least showing that whatever can be done to get the fans in will be done.
     
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  23. LaParka710

    LaParka710 Member

    Köln
    Ukraine
    Feb 20, 2020
    Not at all surprised by the second part as they were doing something similar in the Champions League. You would have Barcelona having no fans when they hosted Fenencvaros and then in the return trip, I would think, "damn, they have a lot of people there."
     
  24. mkdaman1818

    mkdaman1818 Member

    Manchester United
    Canada
    Feb 16, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I honestly wonder if they consider moving this again to 2022, if it means guaranteed fans. Because the World Cup is actually winter, this actually might be the best case scenario for them economically. They’d have to work with FIFA to reschedule whatever tournament they may have planned then, but it makes the most sense. I just can’t see mass vaccinations done by summer at this rate
     
  25. Ric_Braz

    Ric_Braz Member+

    May 13, 2009
    Wiltshire, UK.
    Club:
    AFC Wimbledon
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Personally I would love them to cancel Qatar and concentrate on the Euros.
     

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