2020 is mercifully over (CY and RSL-Y): Offseason News and Discussion

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  1. kirsoccer

    kirsoccer BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 29, 2007
    We know the DP spot will not be filled until ownership change occurs.
     
  2. SenordrummeR2

    SenordrummeR2 Member+

    Jul 21, 2008
    Layton, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pablo as assistant coach is official. I wonder if Freddy realizes he just hired his replacement...

     
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  3. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ******** all of this. Freddy's decisions are just ridiculous. The guy was a great player, no doubt about that. And it is said enough that it must be true: great guy. But you cannot find anything to seriously state that this guy is a good coach. His one good record featured a bus parked in front of goal. The irony of that? The "defensive" focused assistant coach, Tyrone Marshall, is still with the club. So... um.

    Having a hard time getting myself motivated to watch this team in 2021
     
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  4. Lizzie Bee

    Lizzie Bee Member+

    Jul 27, 2004
    Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pablo seems like a really bad idea. I'm officially very hesitant to embrace this move.
     
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  5. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    RSL Show synopsis:
    • Dude Bros Catchup
    • Mad at other news outlets actual publishing news and not just talking about rumors without saying said rumor
    • Talk about the studio that we cant see but it is important because reasons
    • Corey Baird Sucks studio (this was one of the best parts of the podcast)
    • Jake goes to California for cars and such...?
    • Rubio Rubin depth forward confirmed(ish)
    • "Rumors" but nothing said, which should be the tagline for this podcast in general
    • Corey Baird Suck Studios again, with excuses for Corey made that don't add up
    • Apparently RSL sold the Glad signing like it was bigger news than it actually was. I dunno. Not on social media.
    • Casually brush off the promise they made about the DLH/Andy Carroll/RSL investigation by MLS not being reported at the end of December. Which is just so par for the course with this club and the coverage of it. Even the league is like "meh"
    • Ryan Smith still the frontrunner, but seems to be having problems getting others involved
    • DLH is still involved, apparently. Thats... how?
    • And then Pablo Mastroeni. This part was just hilarious. The hoops they jump through to make this make any sense make Q Anon believers look logical
     
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  6. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My initial "okayness" with bringing Pablo on board is lessening by the day. It's just weird, with no significant upside over other people who could be the assistant instead. And plenty of potential downside.
     
  7. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    hey hey hey, Jake said MLS circles say its a great move. We should all be so happy to have a failed MLS coach on our staff.

    I would LOVE for the new ownership to come in and just cut everyone, top to bottom. All jobs are open and those people can reapply, but there is absolutely nothing in this club that you can point to and say "yeah, keep that goin"
     
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  8. SenordrummeR2

    SenordrummeR2 Member+

    Jul 21, 2008
    Layton, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kreis often talked about needing three years to really see the success of a coach. Pablo had that at Colorado. So, we can expect another year of crap from Freddy and then potentially a good season in 2022. Or, we can expect two years of crap under Pablo and a successful season in 2023. Either way, things are looking up for the future of the club! :ROFLMAO:
     
  9. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    Freddy will have a good season the same year 1000 monkeys type up some Shakespeare.
     
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  10. Allez RSL

    Allez RSL Member+

    Jun 20, 2007
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  11. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Guys. Guys!

    Did you all really have your hopes up for 2021?

    Why?
     
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  12. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am all for the 3 years for a coach thing, but caveat it with recognizable growth. My documented frustration with Kreis was towards the end of 2009 when it felt like the team had stagnated. The run they went on shut me up real fast. I don't see that from Freddy's RSL. I don't see Freddy implementing a vision that is going to be successful
     
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  13. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I mean, hiring the villain wasn't on my bingo card...
     
  14. SenordrummeR2

    SenordrummeR2 Member+

    Jul 21, 2008
    Layton, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Keep your friends close... no that doesn't really apply here. Such a weird hire.
     
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  15. Lizzie Bee

    Lizzie Bee Member+

    Jul 27, 2004
    Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Srsly.

    And because it's gray and boring outside, I have to ask. Who would be a worse hire, coming from a hated rival perspective? I'm going with Steven Lenhart. That guy was just shit.
     
  16. 2nd Mouse

    2nd Mouse Member+

    Apr 11, 2012
    Salt Lake City, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Feilhaber is thinking about a coaching gig, I'd put him up there with Lenhart or Alan Gordon, just based on pure dickbag-ness.

    This might need its own thread.
     
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  17. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #292 15 to 32, Jan 5, 2021
    Last edited: Jan 5, 2021
    Pablow made the RMC have bite with the infamous shirt tuck. He then showed himself to be a pretty meh to bad coach in MLS. Hiring him to our staff is nonsensical on so many levels. If the selling point is he brings intensity, there are a million coaches out there that have that on their resume. I'm sure there are at least a few who aren't (a) former cRapids managers who (b) performed poorly overall.

    I mean, this guys background is the cRapids and Houston, both in failing seasons but one. Why would we want that on our staff? Why aren't we calling up everyone at Seattle or Toronto and begging them to come in with some of their proven ideas?

    Whats next, we hire the San Jose (worst GA average last year) goalkeeper coach? We go get the worst assistant on the lowest scoring team last sea.... ah shit, that was us out West. I guess we could ask Cinci

    Oh, and not mentioned yet: how stupid it is that this club has the Monarchs and yet doesn't leverage them for coaching promotions, either. Not saying Olave or anyone on that staff deserves a promotion, but their resume isn't any worse than Pablo, if you ask me.
     
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  18. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The only acceptable reason for hiring Pablo over all other candidates is his epic mustache. That's what Freddy should say: "Have you seen his mustache?"
     
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  19. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not like the assistants from last year were anything to write about. Only TM is coming back (defense was pretty average, so?). Monarchs have two former GK coaches, so maybe one gets promoted?
    I'm not sure if this is a good hire or not, but the bar has been set pretty low. Maybe the other (presumed) coaching announcements will be better received.
     
  20. kirsoccer

    kirsoccer BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 29, 2007
    I'm of the opinion that quality assistant coaches matter deeply. I believe a big part of the success of RSL under Kreis was the group of : Miles Joseph, Brian Johnson, CJ Brown and Jeff Cassar. That was a very talented group of positional coaches.

    Is this move a downgrade? Maybe not. But this team needs to be looking for major upgrades at every turn and in every aspect of the organization, and now would be a great time to do so with assistant coaches. In other words, Pablo just might be the Corey Baird of assistant coaches.
     
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  21. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Corey Baird of assistant coaches. That's... glowing
     
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  22. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One thing that baffles me about professional sports is just how little the head coach seems to do in a lot of situations. While they are the final say on ideas, the execution of said ideas almost always falls to the assistants. Training sessions are typically ran almost entirely by an assistant, with the head coach acting as consultant. Warmups are always an assistant. Film review is an assistant. etc.

    My point is I whole heartedly agree with your statement. Quality assistants are underappreciated, but also there are folks that are MUCH better at that line of work vs the head job. I think Freddy falls into that, based on what I've seen. Cassar certainly did. He knew his role as an assistant and did a damn good job at it. The knock on Fraser for the longest time was the same thing. I think he's shown growth enough to be the head guy now, though.

    My point is we have a head coach who actually doesn't have what you would consider head coach qualities as his strong suit. And he's paired him with assistants that don't seem too great at that, either. This is a recipe for failure on so many levels
     
  23. BalanceUT

    BalanceUT RSL and THFC!

    Oct 8, 2006
    Appalachia
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Houston is a literal crapfest of a city. There are few places that I have strong emotions about, Houston is one with negative emotions. It could be he hated it there, too.
     
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  24. BalanceUT

    BalanceUT RSL and THFC!

    Oct 8, 2006
    Appalachia
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not 2020?
     
  25. RSL Wonderbra

    RSL Wonderbra Member

    Jan 30, 2013
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Pablo brings bite and fight. He's like having roger Espinoza on your sidelines. The guy has the harriest of chotch and he won't hesitate to rub your nose in it to get a win. He is super easy to hate when he is not with you but I figure Pablo will fight for a role here. Vermes brought that pass and vinegar to SKC and we really look soft out there for long periods of time.

    Having said that, its a weird match given the history.

    The WORST part is that we gave up $50,000 in GAM for an assistant coach. Now, that is stupid. If its Bob Bradley, then perhaps. But this is for an assistant coach. In what Wizarding world do wanker assistants get player assets to swap teams?

    Failblog.org. Meet Elliot
     
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