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Discussion in 'Juventus' started by 1251alex, Jan 20, 2011.

  1. Tifoso

    Tifoso Moderator
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    Juventus
    Italy
    Feb 24, 2007
    northern California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Yes.
    Someone please explain how this wouldn’t just be CL by another name.
    Serious question.
     
  2. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No annual qualifications
     
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  3. cizko

    cizko Member

    Juve
    Italy
    Jul 14, 2017
    It's pretty clear what they are trying to do. They want a sum of guaranteed revenue notwithstanding actual performance of the club in a domestic league. Agnelli said as much when he complained about Atalanta playing in the CL instead of Milan, which by his metric is the club more deserving of CL revenue.

    Personally, I'm not a fan of this vision and I'm not a fan of their position in this matter.
     
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  4. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    Let's reward a team like Milan who have been garbage for the last decade due to past successes as opposed to Atalanta who have played the most aesthetic football in Italy for the last couple years. I'm against any competition that rewards sides who haven't done anything in years because of storied pasts.
     
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  5. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    These big club guys are not dumb.

    They look over here at our "closed leagues" and see how it is a much better deal for the haves....and we are a Have, as are the rest of the clubs in on these negotiations.

    Plus in Serie A's case you have a bunch of irritating idiot owners like ADL and Lotito always trying to gum uo the works, moan about Juve...he!! they even trumped up a scheme that got us relegated, stripped of Scudetti, etc for something the major culprit Inter wasn't even looked at for doing.

    Why put up with this nonsense year in and year out when you could band together with other big clubs around Europe and make a isht ton more money?
     
  6. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is a pretty strong point. Obviously it hurts the Juve fans around the country who always look forward to Juve playing their teams. But you almost want to say good luck to Serie without Juve, who will be the "bad guy" and "scape-goat" if we leave?
     
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  7. cizko

    cizko Member

    Juve
    Italy
    Jul 14, 2017
    That is irrelevant. European premier league would be played in a middle of a week, therefor domestic leagues would be untouched.
     
  8. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    Agreed. But that's not the system that has been in place in Europe--and that's what has always been in place in the U.S. It's a hard sell to close off leagues to those looking to be promoted.
     
  9. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    True.

    But these proposals for a Super League have been swirling around since the late 90's.

    At some point the $$$ is going to be impossible to ignore.
     
  10. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    At what point does it become overkill? I don't understand how you are to fit in a Superleague with domestic competitions, domestic cup competitions, and European club competitions, and still have dates for international matches. I just don't see how all of this could work simultaneously.
     
  11. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    There would be a European A league and a European B league.
     
  12. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    If a Super League happens we would not play domestically anymore.
     
  13. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Paratici was fined €15,000 by the Disciplinary Commission for his conduct towards the referee in the match against Hellas Verona.
     
  14. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    That ref deserved everything he got. He was awful.
     
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  15. juventino13

    juventino13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2005
    Caribbean
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    A few club patrons are supposedly planning on boycotting the upcoming international break call ups by denying their players to go. This includes Agnelli and De Laurentis and supposedly a few other. They are following suit with what Werder Bremen did in denying 5 of their players going on international duty
     
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  16. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Napoli lost their appeal, the result stands... but Napoli plan on appealing again, I guess they will just go down the line until the find a judge that will grant them their appeal.
     
  17. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    That seems to be a common theme these days.
     
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  18. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    OF COURSE BERNA PLAYING A COUPLE OF BLINDERS IN AN AZZURRI SHIRT....
     
  19. scirea6

    scirea6 Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Welcome to Italy.
     
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  20. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    Makes sense. We have most definitely been a top ten side consistently over the last decade and, at our best, top five. However, I would imagine we drop off next year given that the 2016/2017 season will no longer count. I don't see us winning the CL final this year such that we can maintain our standing.
     
  22. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    SO....the FIGC is gonna try to relegate us again?

    https://www.football-italia.net/163006/suarez-case-what-juventus-risk


    ".....The FIGC has opened an investigation into Juventus' managers over the Italian exam taken by Luis Suarez, but what does the club risk?

    The Perugia prosecutor’s office has confirmed Juventus ‘were activated, even at the highest institutional levels, to accelerate the recognition of Luis Suarez’ Italian citizenship’.

    The investigation is ongoing after alleged irregularities in Luis Suarez’s Italian citizenship exam in September.

    SportMediaset reveals everything revolves around an article of the federal code, borne after Passaportoli case of 2001 - Article 32, paragraph 7.

    The former Barcelona forward, who eventually moved to Atletico Madrid, underwent a test in University of Perugia and seemed set to complete a move to Juventus.

    But the Bianconeri had already filled their spots for non-EU players and the Uruguayan striker was applying for an Italian citizenship to avoid the rule.

    The broadcaster reports Juventus face possible sanctions, ranging from a fine to relegation from Serie A.

    The FIGC investigation would continue even if Juventus are acquitted by the Perugia Prosecutor. The Old Lady have always claimed they asked the University of Perugia for information about a possible exam and then abandoned the idea to sign Suarez.

    Alvaro Morata was brought back to the Allianz Stadium in October and Suarez filled the void left by the Spain international at Atletico Madrid.....":
     
  23. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Such a crappy situation to be in. I want to believe that the club wouldn't be stupid enough to do anything that could be misconstrued as gaining an unfair advantage with the testing. However, I wouldn't be surprised if Suarez's reps may have inquired about the exam or "study materials."
     
  24. juventino13

    juventino13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2005
    Caribbean
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nothing will come of it, relax
     

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