PBP: USWNT vs Netherlands, Nov 27, pre/pbp/post

Discussion in 'USA Women: News and Analysis' started by lil_one, Nov 16, 2020.

  1. BrooklynSoccer

    BrooklynSoccer Member+

    Jan 22, 2008
    Yes. she waiting for FIFA, who just changed their rules, to allow her to play.
    the rule was 5 years after 18.
    now it's 5 years regardless of age
    + not moving for soccer.

    The funny thing is, she moved for soccer and has stated so in interviews. She's later tweaked the reason for education, etc. but...
     
  2. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe the new rule isn't about moving for "football reasons" but moving for the purpose of becoming eligible for a national team:

    demonstrate that the move to the territory of the association was not for the purpose of participating for its representative teams

    At the worst, she becomes eligible when she turns 23 (5 years after 18). The delay is likely because this is a new process for FIFA and there are some administrative/process obstacles that pop up early in a new procedure.
     
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  3. BrooklynSoccer

    BrooklynSoccer Member+

    Jan 22, 2008
    That makes sense.
     
  4. jackdoggy

    jackdoggy Member+

    May 16, 2014
    Big D
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rat Verlegh Stadion opened in 1996 and has a capacity of 19,000 but will eerily look more like the photo below at first kick on November 27, 2020. Sorry to hear about Miedema missing the Match (Hip), she is Baaaaaad to the bone.
    Breda 7_Rat_Verlegh_Stadion 1.jpg

    • Secure appointment as the USWNT Barista for the European trip – FAILED
    • Marry a nice Dutch Woman for three days to obtain temporary citizenship – FAILED
    • Find a Dutch Citizen in urgent need of a Kidney for Transplant purposes – FAILED
    • Lobby the U.S. Department of State to appoint me as Special Envoy to Breda – FAILED
    • Bribe the Royal Dutch Football Federation to get me into the Match – FAILED
    • Convince Vlatko to select me for the 23-Member Camp Roster – FAILED
    JD FINAL 1.jpg

    I haven’t suffered so many setbacks since my second-year Spring Semester at University (apparently, Heineken was NOT recognized as a valid Major).

    COVID-19 wins.

    On the trip, I was anxiously looking forward to dropping by The Hague and arguing –
    1. For the official recognition of Tobin’s Goal in the Sweden WWC Match, and
    2. For the inclusion of Hope Solo in the National Soccer Hall of Fame
    to correct those grave injustices at the International Court of Justice.
    ICJ 1559687028.png

    And after attending 33 consecutive USWNT Matches comessssssssssss……. -0-.

    A Beachhead will NOT be established.
     
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  5. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Damn-- cant count on anything these days...

    Well, at least we'll know who to blame if we lose (and I don't mean jackdoggy.)
     
  6. jnielsen

    jnielsen Member+

    May 12, 2012
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    We feel your pain, Jackdoggy. I'm looking forward to the match - understatement of the year for this thread. I hope they don't add fake crowd noise; I like to hear the players and coaches.
     
  7. Cannons

    Cannons Member+

    May 16, 2005
    He should cut them loose now. THey are too old
     
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  8. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  9. Semblance17

    Semblance17 Member+

    United States
    Apr 27, 2013
    Lighthouse Point, FL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  10. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Press been only able to score only 1 goal in 267 minutes playing time on an Man U team that plays very 'direct soccer' that even Jill Ellis would get goose bumps from watching them
    Mewis got two goals, but definite strong, physical presence for Man City yet currently only in 5th place in the league standing(so the league does have some depth)

    now words out that the Netherland's best player; central striker, Miedema is out with an injury. The Dutch don't go deep enough to be really able to replace her, dso US chances of winning went up the roof
     
  11. Hexa

    Hexa Member+

    May 21, 2010
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    Fifa's rule was to prevent rich European clubs from raiding African and South American youth prospects. She moved to the US to play soccer, but money was not the main motivation for her family. The US provided structure and organization, which Brazil didn't and still don't have in the women's game.

    There is an old interview (in portuguese) were she complains about the lack of support and organization for women soccer in Brasil and said she would move to the US. This was the same year Santos (her training team at that time) cancelled their women's team.
     
  12. zdravstvuyte

    zdravstvuyte Member

    Aston Villa
    United States
    Jul 26, 2018
    Back on tour !!!
    Howdy kids !!
    Like hotjam2 I have been watching a truckload of WSL games over here in Blighty. Also seen 3 of the Dutch 2022 Euro qualifiers. If I say that the Oranjeleeuwinnen are way more match ready and could take this game without the services of Miedema would jackdoggy forever consign me to the locker room?

    Just wish we had TV coverage of the match here in the UK.
    Will be desperately searching for a live stream of ESPN2 or Veronica

    (PS. I also have a bit of a crush on Jackie Groenen)
    [​IMG]
    How could anyone not ?!!?!?
     
  13. Semblance17

    Semblance17 Member+

    United States
    Apr 27, 2013
    Lighthouse Point, FL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I prefer Danielle van de Donk. In addition to her talent and the class she shows on and off the pitch, quite possibly the most ridiculously photogenic woman in all of Europe.
    [​IMG]
     
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  14. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    if you two are dudes, your pretty much out of luck. In fact I think Groenen's partner is the Man U/Swedish team mate named Okvist.Pretty sure van de Donk's got an fellow Arsenal partner. Dominique Janssen(Dutch CB) was married to an American GI for a while, but single again

    here's Groenen & Okvist
    tumblr_31f53011889a122973ce40b46cad789d_d77d9e52_640.jpg
     
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  15. BrooklynSoccer

    BrooklynSoccer Member+

    Jan 22, 2008
    this is a soccer forum, straight people.
     
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  16. zdravstvuyte

    zdravstvuyte Member

    Aston Villa
    United States
    Jul 26, 2018
    Back on tour !!!
    Yeah well...i think she's adorable and am happy she has a partner regardless of which gender or assignation or whatever you are insinuating?!!?
    It matters not.

    Shouldn't you be addressing the fact that I think the Dutch will beat us?
     
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  17. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Of course they should. In fact, if the do not, it would be pretty amazing and perhaps would say quite a bit about the state of women’s futbol in Europe as compared to the US.;)
     
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  18. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    it depends how long the US has been training for this game; if it’s been weeks, than Vatko probably whipped them into top top shape, if it’s only a few days, then obviously they wouldn’t be fit.

    Remember; the Dutch wouldn’t be without the he best striker in the world, 3 time WSL leading scorer, Miedema(and she’s proven that compared to Sam Kerr, who’s goal scoring output been disappointing since coming to Chelsea/4 goals in 852 mins)They don’t go that deep after that; van de Donk lost her starting spot at Arsenal, van de Sanden likewise at Lyon & Wolfsburg. Lieke Martens got shockingly low stats at Barcelona, Spitse, their abt free kicker plays at some amateur club in Norway. My fav, Jill Roord, just got back from injury & isn’t particularly liked by coach Wiegman, who prefers to start the lil blond squirt from Man U ahead of her(who despite seemingly having the the worlds biggest fan club, got an whole one assist, zero goals last season:two assists, zero goals this time around)

    so again it comes down how well the USWNT is conditioned for this one. I would recommend they skip the heavily calories, Thanksgiving dinner & instead try the Dutch national food called Rice Taffle, a very very spiced Indonesian dish guaranteed to send you running.....well let’s just say you’ll loose whatever you gained. But guess missing turkey today would be very un American
     
  19. zdravstvuyte

    zdravstvuyte Member

    Aston Villa
    United States
    Jul 26, 2018
    Back on tour !!!
    No Turkey here in Blighty...I had a curry....SAD :confused:

    But if we are throwing shade on the Oranjeleeuwinnen
    How about these gems....


    Beat the Dutch: To exceed expectations.
    › Dutch act / cure: Committing suicide.
    › Dutch agreement: An agreement made while intoxicated.
    › Dutch auction: An auction in which the goods are offered at gradually decreasing prices. The first bidder to accept wins.
    › Dutch bargain: A bargain settled over drinks.
    › Dutch collar: A horse collar.
    › Dutch comfort: Deriving comfort from the fact that things could be worse.
    › Dutch concert: Lots of noise, like that made by a group of drunken Dutchmen.
    › Dutch courage: Liquid courage provided by alcohol.
    › Dutch defence: A sham defence.
    › Dutch generosity: Stinginess.
    › Dutch headache: Hangover.
    › Dutch leaf: False gold leaf.
    › Dutch leave: When a soldier is absent without leave, AWOL.
    › Dutch gold: An alloy of copper and zinc, yellow in colour, that’s easily tarnished unless lacquered. Imitation gold leaf is made from it, hence the name Dutch leaf. It is also called Dutch metal.
    › Dutch nightingales: Frogs.
    › Dutch reckoning: an excessively high bill that’s neither itemised nor detailed.
    › Dutch rub: To rub your knuckles across the top of someone’s head while holding their head under your other arm.
    › Dutch talent: More brawn than brain.
    › Dutch treat: When you go out to eat and each person pays for themselves. To go Dutch has the same meaning.
    › Dutch widow: A prostitute.
    › Dutch wife: A long bolster.
    › Dutched: Cancelled.
    › Dutchman's draught: A very large beer.
    › Double Dutch: Gibberish, hard to understand language. Also a jump rope game.
    › To go Dutch: When you go out to eat and each person pays for themselves. Same as Dutch treat.
    › To be in Dutch with someone: Being in trouble with someone.
    › I'm a Dutchman if I do: A strong refusal.
    › If not, I'm a Dutchman: Used to strengthen an affirmation or assertion.
    › In Dutch: In trouble, out of favour, under suspicion.
    › To talk like a Dutch uncle: Being stern and firm.
    › Well, I'm a Dutchman!: An exclamation of strong incredulity.
     
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  20. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    I'm surprised Van De Donk lost her starting position. Was she that bad?
     
  21. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    #46 hotjam2, Nov 27, 2020
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2020
    My bad, just noticed Arsenal’s last match was an Cup game where she did indeed start. I remember her defense got severely criticized vs Man U & she didn’t play vs arch rivals Chelsea the previous league match.

    with Kim Little & Jill Roord back from injury, plus the expected return of Jordyn Nobbs, its hard to say if VVD is a regular stater it part of an rotation or just lost her spot
     
  22. nick p

    nick p Member+

    Jul 11, 2009
    Baltimore Maryland
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We've been waiting to say this for 261 days It's USWNT game day!
     
  23. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    it's going to be televised on ESPN2 at 11.30 central time/likewise on their ESPN Go stream line service(dunno these days if you got to pay for it though)

    here's some info on the squad's current situation
    For USWNT, a different Thanksgiving abroad caps off a weird year – Equalizer Soccer
    seems like they've been living in an bubble & have'nt been able to go out and enjoy the simple care free Dutch lifestyle of walking in wooden shoes, biking in zero degree weather or poking a finger on a leaking dam.
     
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  24. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    A match is happening.
     
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  25. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    A lot of US pressure forcing turnovers and creating opportunities.
     

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