I still think RSL is in a good position, they are one of the few MLS teams that actually make a profit. I guess MLS can do what they want but they usually go where the money is and at least at the moment the money is here. I kind of wonder if this thing will drag on so long that most people will kind of forget about it. With Covid-19, the election, the soon to be post-election riots, etc., sports seem to be on the back burner right now.
I think that's fair but I do wonder if the league is willing to forgo a couple million in gate revenue if they can get a new owner who is willing to spend big and improve tv viewership at the expense of gate revenue. After all this info about DLH I also wonder if we're only profitable because he's running the team on a shoe-string budget?
eh, RSL makes a profit while being a mediocre to bad team. That's not a glowing review. Its also well documented just how cheap DLH went on a lot of things in the construction/makeup of this club on so many levels. that scares me. What I think the new ownership could do to be competitive and still turn a profit is invest in a Mexican international. Even if they suck (see Chicarito) the attention you'll get gets you $$$$. Further, MLS teams don't make or lose enough to really make it a venture. it's that access to SUM money that everyone wants in on. and sports should be on the back burner. it's wild to me that we're playing any games, let alone with fans in the stands, with the spikes we're seeing and the known "it'll get worse in the cold" months coming. Watching RSL last night was really weird for me, personally. It felt like a pre season game in so many ways. It felt like it was being done on another planet, too.
I don't get the fans in the stands but I don't have a problem with the games being played especially if they protect the players and staff. It's certainly selfish on my part but having soccer to watch has made a difference, even if it's just a little, during this "event". It's such a tragedy that it's as bad as it's ever been. Wear a mask. Please.
the uptick of player cases in Europe is the most concerning thing to me. I'm a well documented AC Milan fan. Watching this league play through games where teams have to miss multiple players due to testing positive has been insane. Milan won the derby because of it. The human spirit to fight on and not let the virus dictate everything about our lives is commendable. But we're getting to a point where you wonder what is the tipping point of having to lock down again. When is it unsafe to play these games. More than that, when is it morally wrong to play these games given the resources it takes from the local community to put them on. In the US, as mentioned above, next week feels like a tipping point in so many ways that you wonder why the hell we're playing any sports. In my lifetime I've never felt this country so divided as it is right now. Like a powder keg about to explode.
I think we're probably very much on the same page. I haven't followed leagues outside of MLS and EPL but players getting COVID is very concerning. I do hope that next week is a turning point as well. Fingers crossed. Why our governor and his spineless sidekick haven't had the balls to do more is beyond me.
From a public health perspective there really is no increased risk of allowing fans if: The venue is outdoors. The number of fans is capped at a low number. The fans are seated with very good spacing. Entrance and exit lines are managed for spacing. Fans wear masks. I felt very secure at the RSL game that I attended, and I’m in a high risk age group. That said, I would never attend a SEC or ACC football game this year, based on what I’ve seen on tv.
In a nation where Chiefs of Police and Sheriffs all across the land have gone way outside their authority and assumed the mantle of interpreting law (ie, “I don’t believe the Governor’s/Mayor’s/City Council’s damn mask mandate is lawful and my department will not enforce it), the lack of more forceful measures from the Governor aren’t surprising at all. He knows he will be disrespected and such actions would be useless.
That's a good point that only highlights how weak the response has been from the Governor and Spineless J Cox. I think that it's less about the Sherrifs and Police Chiefs as much as it is about being scared of the Karens personally. I would bet several dollars to donuts that if this was not an election year the response would have been different from political leaders both local and national. Which is odd because a strong and comprehensive response from the person at the top would have only ensured a second term instead of turning it in to actual contest.
Dying on the mask hill seems so weird to me. It's such a minimal inconvenience. We're not requiring hazmat suits. It's some fabric over your face to help with the spread. Your freedoms are still intact. And it does help. Every little thing we can do helps. It's really not that hard to stay home a little more, stay spread out some if you have to go out, and wear a mask.
My thought on the mask thing is that no one had a problem with shirts and shoes. To stay intellectually consistent if you're not going to wear a mask you better whip off your shirts and shoes for freedom as you fill up your favorite soft drink at the Maverick. But I'm sure no one has ever found me intellectual let alone consistent.
Yes, I have gone to ALL the games played this season, and if you are venturing out of your house for anything, those things are likely less safe than being at the stadium which is highly social distanced environment, has strong mask enforcement, and requires virtually no touching any surface other than your seat. Grocery store, gassing up your car, drive through fast-food window - all are much more risky IMO. I was apprehensive for the first game and ready to walk out during that first game if I felt anything was risky - thanks to the players I did walk out - that was the game that they boycotted. I avoid the concession stands. I also avoid the restroom at half time, since its a little bit of a high-traffic area at that time (relatively speaking).
The restrooms were the only real concern for me. First, they are inside. Second, I wasn’t sure how the queue would be managed. Third, if the queue is managed did they think to eliminate the almost belly-to-belly circumstances between guys entering and exiting? Fourth, would the hand sink lines be spaced?
I just got an emergency alert on my phone saying that hospitals in the area are nearly overwhelmed. It gives the website to go to for more information. Of course, the website is down. But hey, they *finally* want to have a mask mandate now. Better late than never?
The mask mandate has been out there for several days for almost very County. They aren’t getting any enforcement from Police and Sheriffs, so they did this. I thought it was creative. Apparently the State of Utah’s Coronavirus website went down shortly after the alert was sent out, so it definitely got people’s attention.
Even better, I might have wound up with it. The person I work with tested positive, and it seems like I'm getting a fever tonight. I may have to go in and get tested again over the weekend. I thought I had symptoms a few weeks ago but it wound up not being it. Now I worry that this is it.
Best wishes my friend. Several people around me have had it but have always been masked when we were in the same space, and we're very careful about wiping common spaces down. Which isn't a certain way clear, but it's helpful.
... wait, you just let all those civil liberties and FREEDOM(!!!!) go like that and didn't complain to high heaven? psh some American you are
It seems like I'm probably avoiding it again. I did have an elevated temperature since Friday but it seems to be going away now. No other symptoms. I did get tested Monday just in case, since I work closely with my coworker that tested positive. I'm out for two weeks, which is fine with me right now. It sounds like the rest of the department is dropping off though. Of course now that it finally affects us, they want to actually allow one of us to stay home for two weeks at a time. We could've been doing this all along and been fine, but of course that means paying us to do nothing for two weeks. (which is funny since we pretty much do nothing at work anyway)
Since the conversation has digressed to covid..... Except for a short trip to NYC in the first week of February I've been in Thailand since summer 2019. Things ramped up quickly after I returned in February and we went into lockdown at about the same time as the US. But stayed in lockdown just a few weeks more. And when that ended it was measured. Restaurants/bars opened with limits, precautions, etc... Schools stayed closed until July (local schools were supposed to start the new year in April). When the did open there were distancing precautions. Masks everywhere at all times. Cases for months now have been limited to the strictly controlled and quarantined international arrivals. No community spread. Everything is open and running normally except for international tourism and the fact that everyone wears masks and many locations still monitor temperatures. Students are indeed protesting here....for authentic political freedom while wearing their masks with no complaint. It's perhaps feels a bit overly cautious but also feels totally safe. We are returning to Utah in January and not quite sure what chaos faces us at that time. Also not sure my kids will survive temperatures below 70 degrees. Be safe everyone!
If there can be an effective vaccine being mass distributed by then, it will probably be fairly sane. Let’s hope for that.