Yunus Musah at AC Milan

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Jun 19, 2019.

  1. HockeytownHeel

    HockeytownHeel Member+

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    Jul 23, 2018
    yeah, English kids, while talented have a lot longer to wait when you see the amount of talent they possess from 23-29 in their player pool.

    If I was an 18-20 year old player, I would certainly look elsewhere if soccer at that level was of the utmost importance.
     
  2. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    depends whether he feels American and how he likes the team. We have such a fantastic crop 17-22 that I'd look serious at the USA if I was him too!
     
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  3. Bruce S

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    Sep 10, 1999
    that's doesn't answer my question, but thx for the clip. Can someone who has seen him describe his position(s) and his strengths?
     
  4. HockeytownHeel

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    Jul 23, 2018
    Supposed to play like Pogba minus the headcase ....

    Seriously though that is who he is compared to at times.
     
  5. Bruce S

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    Sep 10, 1999
    thx
     
  6. FC Tallavana

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    I looked at about two minutes of the reel and thought he looked strong, quick and pretty direct. His touch looked pretty good, but not otherworldly. He seemed pretty comfortable on the right wing and tucked a bit. If that was him that took the PK early on then that says something about him as well.
     
  7. Scotty

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    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    This piece from Spanish publication AS stating that, at one point in his sprint for the goal, he reached a speed of 33.4 km/h:

    Yunus Musah, el gol del velocista
     
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  8. Jazzy Altidore

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    Sep 2, 2009
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    But he's a FW?
     
  9. dougtee

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    Feb 7, 2007
    a lot of people see his future as an 8, but his versatility is incredible
     
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  10. Jazzy Altidore

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    United States
    If he plays in a friendly, he will have to file a one-time switch to leave us, correct?
     
  11. BostonRed

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    No. You can play as many friendlies as you like without causing any need to file a switch.
     
  12. EXALIFTIN

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    Negative
     
  13. Jazzy Altidore

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    I thought if you played in a non-friendly/competitive match, you were cap-tied. And so ostensibly that would leave friendlies as provisional cap tie, implicating a possible OTS. Did the rule change?
     
  14. Jenks

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    Yes.
     
  15. BostonRed

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    The rules did change, but I don't think this changed. The only time you are provisionally cap-tied is by playing in a competitive *youth* match. A lot of people will erroneously call a player who only played friendlies switching to another senior team as a "one time switch" But friendlies don't matter for tying a player.
     
  16. cdViking

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    That was my understanding as well. Are there restrictions on which/what level of youth tournament matters? I know Olympics + U20 WC provisionally cap tie, but do U17 competitions count?Thank you for any clarification and apologies for the laziness (I could check the definitions in the FIFA guidelines).
     
  17. BostonRed

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    #167 BostonRed, Nov 3, 2020
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    This isn't the kind of stuff that is 100% clear in the statutes, but generally any U17 to U23 FIFA or confederation competition will cause a provisional cap-tie. A UEFA U19 tournament match or a Concacaf U17 Olympic-qualification match will tie that player provisionally to the national side. Even competitions that don't lead to a FIFA tournament, like the SAYC, are provisionally cap-tying.

    It used to be that the provisional cap tie limited any future switches to nations that the player was a citizen of at that moment, but the new rules added changes for someone who later adds an additional nationality.
     
  18. cdViking

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    That makes sense. Any bright line rule would incentivize sham youth/friendly "tournaments" held for the sole purpose of cap-tying. Not that I trust FIFA's subjective review, it at least somewhat disincentivizes bad actor FAs.
     
  19. Jenks

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    If you play a senior friendly for one national association then you have to ask permission from FIFA to switch before you can play for another. FIFA have literally expelled nations from international tournaments for playing players who failed to do so.
     
  20. BostonRed

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    Reference? Tournaments are different than friendlies.
     
  21. Jazzy Altidore

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    This was my understanding. Otherwise wouldn't you see guys just jumping back and forth between senior squads with no reservation? I haven't noticed that to be the case.

    For example, has anyone gone from Team A to Team B and back to Team A (all friendlies) under the current rules?
     
  22. BostonRed

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    Human nature is going to limit those kinds of jumps. Coaches/feds are not generally going to be happy with calling up players who bounce around and players are hesitant about ticking off coaches by appearing uncommitted.

    Certainly players have taken a cap and then committed to another team without having to file a one-time switch. Tony Tchani got one cap for the US before accepting a cap-tie from Cameroon (without having to file a one-time switch).

    The rules allow it, but we aren't likely to see players jumping teams at a whim.
     
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  23. ttrevett

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    Not with that pace he won't be. He'll be a winger or a striker.
     
  24. Jenks

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    FIFA expelled Syria from World Cup qualification for fielding George Mourad, who had played in friendlies for Sweden but had not requested permission from FIFA to switch.

    What makes you think he didn't?
     
  25. JTay

    JTay Member

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    Apr 27, 2019
    That was because he played in a U21 qualifier for Sweden.
     
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