Angel City FC

Discussion in 'NWSL Expansion' started by McSkillz, Jul 20, 2020.

  1. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006
    your treat?
     
  2. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    What about college level soccer specific stadiums? Or the lower division soccer league stadiums in USL?
     
  3. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I do not know about USL stadiums, but I was referring to college level soccer specific stadiums. I do not know of any that would provide the kind of amenities that professional sport team fans would or should expect.
     
  4. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    So you don't think that any school facilities are attractive enough for that expand/improve thing I suggested? I would imagine that a one-time investment in adding appropriate amenities to an existing facility would be cheaper than either building from the ground up or years of rent elsewhere.
     
  5. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess it really depends on what they think their attendance will be. If they are thinking in terms of at least 7,000 average attendance at the beginning, then they will need a facility that can handle that many fans with rest rooms, food and drink options, various types of seating, team stores, and so on. Of the college facilities I have been to, I do not recall seeing any that would lend themselves to that kind of conversion.

    I am saying this because I have interpreted what I have seen as saying they intend to provide a very high level professional sports experience to their fans. In other words, they are intending what they present to be towards the high end rather than the low end of what the current NWSL teams provide.
     
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  6. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
    I think with the celebrities behind this team, they will draw very well. Portland numbers? Not sure.
     
  7. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    The "celebrity power ownership" may help make a big initial splash, but it won't affect long-term attendance numbers. More important is how well the team can energize their target demographic(s). SoCal is a WoSo hotbed, but the two MLS teams have shown that the SoCal populace can be a fickle one. The organization needs to A) foster a good, attractive culture around game day and around other activities, B) assemble a team that can win. Utah numbers are entirely within reach, IMO, if they can hit one of those two very well and/or both of those two moderately well; hit both of those two very well and settling in the 15-20k zone is possible. Simply fail on one of the two, and you're looking at 5-8k.
     
  8. McSkillz

    McSkillz Member+

    ANGEL CITY FC, UCLA BRUINS
    United States
    Nov 22, 2014
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well I already invited 500 people to their first game so we'll see...:thumbsup:
     
  9. McSkillz

    McSkillz Member+

    ANGEL CITY FC, UCLA BRUINS
    United States
    Nov 22, 2014
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Off the top of my head, the old Drake Stadium at UCLA seats 10,000 max and has multiple public restroom facilities, snack bar areas, etc. I just hate it because it's more of a track and field stadium than a soccer specific stadium. Our SSS is the Annenberg one that is still a work in progress, it has no locker room, no public restrooms(just those porta potties) and seats max 2,000 I believe. USC field is pretty much the same problem.
     
  10. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    Think besides having well known players in the new team but have celebrities attend the games as well, so win win for both fans and celebrities. It be like celebrities attending Lakers games.
     
  11. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
  12. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Most chatter I've seen says the Banc
     
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  13. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    Banc under normal circumstances. Probably smaller or temporary until they can have fans. With possible vaccine news popping up, could be Banc by next year.
     
  14. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
    The team doesn't start until 2022. Hopefully this virus is an afterthought by then.
     
  15. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Along with announcing the stadium, it was also announced that Heineken is ACFC's first major sponsor. (Interesting how that might work with Budweiser being a league sponsor.) Also, 10% of sponsorship funds will go to the local LGBTQ+ community. I was definitely curious when the video they put out yesterday featured someone in a West Hollywood SC shirt; really glad to see the team coming out swinging for LGBTQ+ representation and support.

    =EDIT=
    Correction: the Heineken/Bud thing is a non-issue, as I've been reminded that the Orlando Pride also have Heineken as a team sponsor.
     
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  16. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
  17. McSkillz

    McSkillz Member+

    ANGEL CITY FC, UCLA BRUINS
    United States
    Nov 22, 2014
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Love the sponsorship deal, I'm sad they couldn't get Angel City Brewery as a possible sponsor but I'm not complaining!
     
  18. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    By my count, Angel City now has three kit sponsors, all seven- or eight-figure sums:
    DoorDash (front)
    Birdies (sleeves)
    Sprouts Farmers Markets (back)

    Angel City is going to be able to throw around allocation money like it's nothing, and have a rather large staff to help with player development and well-being. Heck, with the amount they're bringing in, I wouldn't be shocked if they look to building something specifically for themselves like a training facility. I mean, I'm sure rent at LAFC's place isn't cheap either, so this money can certainly help there, but even the money they're bringing in probably isn't enough to build their own 12k-seat stadium or anything that ambitious. (Other possibility: they look into forming a professional reserves side?)
     
  19. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Eni Aluko named first-ever sporting director of National Women's Soccer League side Angel City
    https://www.skysports.com/football/...national-womens-soccer-league-side-angel-city

    This is going to be an interesting development to watch. I loved Eni while she played for St. Louis back in WPS, and she continued doing fairly well after that. She only has a year of executive experience under her belt, though, and I hadn't followed Aston Villa much over the past two years, so no clue if this will pan out or not. Villa did get promoted during her first few months on the job, but they had only dropped 2pts from nearly a dozen matches when she started there, and much of the latter half of that season was cancelled by COVID.
     
  20. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006
    #46 Cliveworshipper, May 20, 2021
    Last edited: May 20, 2021
    I’m guessing the Bud deal isn’t exclusive.

    The Thorns have sponsorship deals with Widmer’s, Modelo, Coors lite, and Pelican Brewing.
    The Slide Tackle IPA from Pelican is pretty good!

    this doesn’t include the Wild Roots Spirits , Two Towns Ciderhouse, or the Social CBD shirt sponsorship.

    don’t worry, you can sober up with some Dutch Brothers coffee.
     
  21. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #47 lil_one, Jun 30, 2021
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  22. McSkillz

    McSkillz Member+

    ANGEL CITY FC, UCLA BRUINS
    United States
    Nov 22, 2014
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like it, it needs to grow on me a little because I'm not sure how I feel about the angel head. If they removed the angel head, it might have also looked good.
     
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  23. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Agreed, the head definitely looks a bit awkward to me compared to the rest of the crest. Would definitely be interested to see a version of the logo where the head (and chest) are simplified down to just a circle for the head, or eliminated altogether.
     
  24. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    Maybe something like this from that angle it would look like a feather itself with no head.
    [​IMG]
     

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