I suspect men's T&F is easy to cut for admin's because it can quickly balance gender equity numbers. Those rosters are good sized so it eliminates a lot of male athletes by cutting that sport. Unfortunate for sure, but likely the rationale.
Schedule adjustment: Oklahoma has had too many positive tests/close contacts and cannot play tonight; the Bedlam game has been postponed. However, since both teams are clear to play with suitable numbers, Oklahoma State will travel to Kansas State and play Saturday night. This game was originally scheduled for Nov. 6.
I think that is the key. The number of events is large and even if a team competes in just a few of the specialties (which includes PV, high jump, javelin, weights, hurdles), the roster size adds up. It may not be the costs. The number of scholarships could already below the maximum, the number of meets are surprising few (just on weekends, no duels), not all the kids go to every meet, and most schools seem to have a small number of coaches considering all the possible events.
This is some of the data the Big10 and Pac12 folks where considering for sure. Published today. Clearly a very small study but I don't know how you can read this and not have serious concerns. Esp when a team like La Tech just found 38 cases on one roster. Certainly 15% is not the 30-35% as the PSU Dr was incorrectly quoted but it's significant. Ohio State study: 4 of 26 athletes who tested positive for COVID-19 'had CMR findings suggestive of myocarditis' https://sports.yahoo.com/ohio-state...ings-suggestive-of-myocarditis-184819353.html Cardiovascular Magnetic Resonance Findings in Competitive Athletes Recovering From COVID-19 Infection https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2770645
Thanks for posting the study summary. I thought it was all about football, but it is nice that it included men's and women's soccer players, However, it is only a preliminary look. As the summary points out, the numbers are very small (26 total) with only 4 athletes showing issues with myocarditis and only two of them with relatively mild symptoms. Further they point out that there was (of course) no baseline data which means that these 4 athletes may have had a touch of myocarditis for reasons having nothing to do with the Covid-19. All this said, this little clinical survey is a good thing in that it will spur more formal research which will better clarify any relationship with Covid-19 and myocarditis.
Yes but it’s important to always think about worst case scenario and tie everything with Covid even if it may not have anything to do with it.
what? You realize these studies are about covid-19 and athletes? Covid-19 infections occurred in athletes, THEN they were studied. Would you prefer these athletes were not examined and studied? Would be nice to live in some Bizarro world where things like deadly viruses didn't exist. Especially for the women's soccer players I know that got covid19, had symptoms, and are now being examined and studied.
I can’t believe Notre Dame and Duke football game is on now and they are allowing all those fans. Clearly they don’t understand science!!
Since I'm too lazy to look, anyone knows what happens to a team that has a COVID outbreak and has to miss a game? Virginia and Virginia Tech just had next week's football game postponed due to an outbreak at Tech. Virginia fans have their panties in a twist because instead of a forfeit, the ACC announced that the game will be "rescheduled". Said fans are claiming that the Big 12 requires teams to play or forfeit.
I think last year's UVa win over Tech was its first over its in-state rival in 13 years or so. Maybe that's why they want a forfeit!
The Big 12 most definitely does not require teams to play or forfeit. They already have re-scheduled two WoSo games due to Covid issues for one opponent in each game -- and moved up another game for one of the teams that did not have an opponent issue. I see you are referring to football. Here is the Big Twelve rule this year: The Big 12 has set the minimum number of players required to play a game this season at 53. The number is based on the entire roster, including all scholarship and walk-on players. Additional minimum thresholds of available players were also established for offensive linemen (7), interior defensive linemen (4) and quarterback (1). Teams falling below any of these benchmarks, based on game week test results, could still elect to play as scheduled if so desired. Otherwise, upon approval by the Commissioner, the game would be declared a no-contest if it cannot be moved to a later date. The Big 12’s COVID-19 testing protocols require that teams test three times per week. It is a real problem that fans are just making things up and spouting them out like they are facts. Of course ....
Most curious. Why would they want a forfeit after they have read the pandemic year guidelines all the schools agreed on from the commissioner’s office? https://www.si.com/college/ncstate/...tball-acc-coronavirus-postponement-guidelines wait. They did read the guidelines, right? Yeah, UVA is a fine academic school. Surely they thought to read the guidelines... didn’t they?
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/s...eaks-with-over-1000-hs-football-games-played/ Many states are now allowing HS kids to play contact sports...football, soccer etc. Even allowing volleyball in MI. Big Ten is now going to try to play football. Pac 12 won't play before the election due to politics. Yes, we will see teams reschedule due to outbreaks. Yes some kids will get sicker than others but we are not seeing hospitalization rates go up in ANY of the college towns across the US. The college kids for the most part are handling the illness fairly well. The media doesn't seem to want to talk about schools which had big spike initially but are now seeing them come down significantly like Notre Dame-who incidentally had fans in the stands for their game yesterday, University of Alabama's cases dropped 66% from two weeks ago to last week. Heaven forbid anyone report positive news. FL, GA, AZ, CA all trending down and all have handled the virus management quite differently. Maybe it needs to go through a community and then there is some effective community immunity and it's not as contagious as before? I don't know. Spain imposed draconian lockdowns and now that they've reopened they are spiking again. Sweden is trending downward and never closed elementary or middle schools. The virus is here to stay. People are going to be COVID positive for the rest of our lifetimes. It is never disappearing. A vaccine will help but now that's being politicized too. It's like a certain portion of America is rooting against America.
Gee, I wonder where you hear that kind of talk? It's been really really sad to me how much hate we are witnessing in America right now but hoping we can stay away from most of that here. Even though half the fans at all those games you mention are rooting against the other half I do not speak for anyone else of course, but I'm rooting for facts, for science, for unbiased public health advice, and for the truth and maybe a little courage from our political and university leadership. Our own CDC was not advising colleges to do universal testing this summer, even though the NCAA eventually mandated testing for athletes. Now (as of Aug 19) members of the White House Task Force are saying “Each university not only has to do entrance testing,” Dr. Birx said, “What we talked to every university about is being able to do surge testing. How are you going to do 5,000 samples in one day or 10,000 samples in one day?” So, it has been very difficult in 2020 to actually get the latest really accurate information. But I think if you are an adult, a leader, entrusted with the health and safety of young students, doing your due diligence to get the best information possible and even then, maybe erring on the side of caution, is expected and should be appreciated. It really is lives vs livelihood in many cases. I have to remind myself that in spite of all the things we all could cite as benefits of competitive sports, and some of us have invested our professional lives in those things, it is ultimately....just sports. PS - But sports are Awesome and here's some good news for you! EVERY major pro sport in America is on this weekend! MLS, NWSL, some College, and of course EPL soccer games! Even right now. Throw in US Open tennis for good measure and even some golf and racing if you like. We will slowly get back to something called 'normal'.
Thank you! We are figuring out how to get some semblance of "normal" in our society. COVID sucks, everything about it sucks. Let's celebrate that we have figured out how to open up some industries and get people back to work, school etc and playing sports. I know sports is not the end all be all but it is giving many something to look forward to and distract people from the heaviness of everyday life at the moment. Mental health is important and I'm all for whatever we can do to start the healing as a society. We have many struggling so much right now.
I think pro sports being on offers hope for us all. Colleges don’t have quite the same chances to have a smaller bubble like the pros and it may not be as easy to stop the virus spreading, but there is at least a model to follow. The one thing we can all agree on in this forum is we are excited for the day that normalcy resumes. The last 7 months have made me realize how great our ‘normal’ actually was.
I think all of those things are happening and the courage from the leaders to not just shut everything down has been very welcomed.
There were 14 games on the schedule for this past weekend. Of those, 5 did not get played: Texas Tech @ Kansas State: re-scheduled to November 13 due to Covid-19 issues Oklahoma State @ Oklahoma: to be re-scheduled due to Covid-19 issues Georgia State @ Chattanooga: apparently will not be played, with no reason given -- this was Chattanooga’s only scheduled game for the Fall. Louisiana Monroe @ Louisiana Tech: disappeared from Louisiana Monroe’s schedule. La Tech has not published a schedule. Both Louisiana Monroe and Louisiana Lafayette show games with Louisiana Tech later in the Fall. UALR @ Missouri State: canceled. UALR could not field a team. And, Oklahoma State @ Kansas State was moved up to September 12 by agreement of the teams. Also, Florida @ Missouri, scheduled for September 19, will be re-scheduled due to Covid-19 issues.
Also, Navy now has released a schedule showing three games, two with Pitt and one with Virginia Tech. They and Army also have agreed to play a “friendly“ some time this Fall, with the date yet to be determined. I do no know if “friendly“ means an exhibition game or a counting game, but in either event it will not count as part of the Army-Navy Star competition. The Star game will be in the Spring.
And, Notre Dame finally has published its schedule, only its 8 ACC conference games. With this one, I believe all the teams playing in the Fall have published their schedules, except for Louisiana Tech if it really will be playing Louisiana Lafayette and Lousiana Monroe.
I believe LA Tech can’t play as Conference USA pushed their season to Spring. Unlike the Southland who is allowing schools on an individual basis to play games this fall even though their conference play will take place in the Spring, C-USA is not (among MANY others). So don’t expect LA Tech to play this fall in any official capacity. a story on the LA Tech website seems to leave open that possibility but I’m not aware of any other CUSA school playing in an official capacity at this present time.