Watch list Midfielders Orange team

Discussion in 'The Netherlands' started by feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 11, 2019.

  1. Frysk Bloed

    Frysk Bloed Member

    Sep 6, 2014
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Would welcome Donny at Liverpool with open arms, unfortunately there's a bit of a logjam at midfield there. As long as he doesn't go to United or Everton I'll be okay with it.

    Newcastle is an interesting option since they're going to be putting together a very good team most likely with their cash infusion.
     
  2. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Yeah Newcastle is going to have a huge cash influx mainly because of new billionaire ownership so it only makes sense that Van de Beek would be linked with this club
     
  3. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Klaasen with a brace at the half as Bremen try to avoid relegation.
     
  4. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Ok so Van Ginkel signs a new one year contract with chelsea and its highly likely that he will be rented. Still 27 and could redeem himself and his career including in NT if no further injuries.it has been one hell of road to recovery for him can image the mental stress of going under the knife again and again and then working out for rehabiltation. I hoping he gets back to where he left, hasnt played for few years now but ray of hope for him to get himself up and running and never know what the situation will be come euros. He should come back to PSV.

    Marseille also will be in champions league next season so worth keeping tabs on strootman. He also hasnt liiked 100% since moving to france but now going into his second season and the Covid break should give him more time to get his fitness level up and regain some of his old form. Koeman also has consistently called him up for NT which shows he his monitoring his development. Lets see if either can make it to the euros.
     
  5. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Strootman I really like and it is almost a guarantee that he will be a lock for EURO 2021
     
  6. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Seriously? He is so over the hill it's not very funny.
     
  7. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Klaasen with another fine match for Werder as they win the playoff on away goals and stay up in the Bundesliga for the 57th straight year. they are the current streak holders.
     
  8. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Klaasen is quickly making himself a case for EURO 21
     
  9. How? We already have problems fitting in a player who's a couple of times better like Ihattaren.
     
  10. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    They are two different players. Klaassen is now a deep lying MF, much different from where he played for Ajax. His ball control is much improved but the player he has to beat out is Frenkie who is just much better. Klaassen may prove to be a useful substitute.
     
  11. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    No thank you.its time for the young lads.veerman, koopmeiners.if this means switching frenkie to the right.so be it. the bologna contingent as well. Jerdy Schouten.another very underrated midfilder .
     
  12. bunbohue

    bunbohue Member+

    Apr 5, 2005
    Unless something spectacular happens, I don't see Klaassen will be recalled. Van De Beek can be useful sub and I'd like to take Koopmeiners for the midfield spot as well.
     
  13. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member+

    Jan 26, 2007
    Koeman has a sort of triangle midfield setup with Wijnaldum on top, and two deep-lying midfielders on the base. Frenkie occupies one. The other "anchor" has been so far a rotation between De Roon and Propper.

    De Roon is, given his defensive prowess, is pretty valuable in the squad - especially if the opposing team has a powerful attacking midfielder. I think he will keep his place.

    Propper is more offensive than De Roon, but overall he's... meh. Van De Beek can drop down, and he could contest this CM spot, particularly if he is bumped out by Mo Ihattaren in the AM position. So I think both Davy and Donny are Klaassen's closest competitors to get a squad number.

    Frenkie's back-up is Strootman... Stroot brings leadership, maturity and stability. I guess, barring injuries, Koeman will make make a way for Kevin to be included. Which is tough news for Koopmeiners, who's in the mold of Strootman-Frenkie.

    To sum up.. the midfield pecking order would be something like this.

    AM: Wijnaldum >> Ihattaren >> Van De Beek
    CM1: Frenkie >> Strootman >> Koopmeiners
    CM2: De Roon >> Van De Beek >> Propper >> Klaassen

    Then there are Fer and Vilhena.... long shot, but who knows. :D
     
  14. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    What about Azor Matusiwa.he is an intresting player given his capabilities but I wonder if he will be recognized playing at Groningen. He is s good DM material or CM if you wanna put it and is mix of both seedorf and davids imo. Maybe not in the scoring department but his breaking down play, interceptions and offensive play from the back is very strong. Closet comparable player would Franck kessie of milan
     
  15. Well, with Robben over there FC Groningen is bound to be watched more carefully I guess.
     
  16. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    He put in a transfer request a couple of months ago and Groningen are not honoring it. I wonder if this will impact his play.
     
  17. His contract runs into 2023, so too long a time to waste as a player or as a club.
    He hasnot been an Uxx Orange player after the U16.
     
  18. gabrielguilarte

    Feb 23, 2016
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Frenkie with a great game today against Napoli showing he is an elite player already.
     
  19. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
  20. How was Frenkie against Bayern?
     
  21. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Had hardly any touches.
     
  22. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Totally outcrowded by the Bayern Duracell cyborgs.

    His passing wasn't good.
     
  23. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    https://www.voetbalzone.nl/doc.asp?uid=375694

    "Heb nu weer eens een keer op hem zitten letten aangezien ik Barcelona niet vaak zie spelen en hoe hij zich zou houden in een wedstrijd tegen de top van Europa maar het was echt niet veel. Zoals altijd als ik hem zie spelen gaat 95% van zijn passies naar opzij of naar achter en over 3 meter, zelden, gisteren helemaal niet, een mooie pass over 30 in de diepte. Zelden, gister helemaal niet, zet hij iemand met een slimme steekpass vrij voor de goal. Voor mij is het Jantje Peters, dat niveau onbegrijpelijk dat deze jongen bij een Spaanse topclub speelt en voor 80 miljoen is gehaald, daar moet in Overmars wederom een compliment in geven, goed verkocht al is het aan de andere kant ook weer niet zo moeilijk aangezien de chef inkoop van Barcelona geen licht der duisternis is. Die betaalt overal veel te veel voor.

    BTW, wat Jantje Peters gelukkig niet had was dat vallen, verontwaardigd met je armen in de lucht staan en om kaarten voor de tegenstanders aan de scheidsrechter vragen wat de Jong wel heeft, eng gedrag, moet hij mee ophouden"

    https://www.vi.nl/nieuws/onzichtbaa...eert-barca-dit-team-heeft-heel-veel-problemen
     

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