YNT-eligible MLS players: 2020 In-season thread

busio is basically lethargic and then reactively manic. his mentality is shook or something.

 

I'd play him at the 10... He's been more aggressive this year from what i've seen.

 

heart goes out to busio. looked very much like a kid trying too hard and now bitterly disappointed

 

Busio taken off at halftime in a game where a boatload of European scouts stayed up till 1-2am just to watch him....at least those scouts will probably be begging their clubs to make an offer for Brendan Aaronson tomorrow morning

 

I agree that he’s more aggressive than last year, I think it was top division experience.

Do you think he will be productive enough offensively to be a 10 in Germany though? Also if he’s an 8 in Germany do you care that he’s a 10 for USMNT. Again, no wrong answers in my book, none of us are fortune tellers. Just curious.

 

It's hard to tell, I think he has excellent technique in MLS and can boss a game here and would be a great 10 for the NT. If he is the best creative attacker (in the middle) for us sans gio than yeah i'd rather have him as a 10 than an 8. I do think with experience he could be a top 10 in Germany. Breaking down defenses in MLS and Germany are totally different and at the very least I think he would be a great 8 in Germany because of his work rate.

 

Duke on

 

Duke's done more in his 4 minutes than Busio did in the first half. And it's not like he's done a ton, he's just obviously good enough for this level.

 

Good for Cam. He’s had a lot of set backs. He’s 100% in the pool for the u20’s

 

That's what I was going to say, is he's maybe shown more as a cm prospect in that 10 minutes than I've ever seen it from Busio in a game. More quickness, tenacity, quick passing, and ideas (even if some haven't come off). You can see some foundation there. I'm not anointing him as the next McKennie, but has a realistic shot at being a senior NT'er at the position.

Busio has shown striker skills w/ cm size. SKC should change positions or cut their losses and sell now to the highest bidder who still has an affinity for him, probably because of past opinions. Continued to hurt himself in this tourney, for what has turned out as a big scouting opportunity for them (maybe should do it every year, and play more youth in it).

 

I'm pretty sure everyone who's watched Duke over the years has liked him. He was always good for the '01s. He's like the antithesis to Busio - all of us have liked him but he's never been given chances and has literally 0 hype.

I'm taking Cam's appearance as an indication he's looked good in training and Vermes wants to incorporate him. I just hope he does or else it'll just be another tale of Vermes not playing a player who deserves it. He seems like the only thing holding SKC back. From here on out I'm officially on the "If Busio plays over Duke, Vermes is an idiot" train.

 

I was watching a game that SKC II was playing a few weeks ago, and about 10 minutes through the first half I thought I was watching Cameron. It made no sense to me because I knew he had been on the bench for the first team a few days prior. I figured they must've released him. He also looked not as dynamic as I remembered.

The video feed then cut to a close up of the player, and started explaining that Christian Duke had recently signed with SKC II. It ends up that the Duke playing CM for SKC II was Cameron's brother whose 10 years older than him, Christian.

Cameron is a really talented kid, but he's struggled a lot the last few seasons with injuries, and I don't know what SKC has been doing with his development aside from that. From what I can tell, he's only played 9 (8 before today) total competitive games in the past two seasons at any level, and I'm nearly sure he's been fit for over a year now. I'm glad to see him get on the field now, but it seems a little peculiar that he's only getting onto the field after Busio struggles. IMO, he's clearly the better prospect than Busio, and I've thought this long before Busio's recently pronounced struggles. Maybe it has something to do with the injuries, and easing him back into things as opposed to throwing him right out there.

 

The exclusion of FCD from this event has hurt both Cannon and Pomykal. Good performances there could have triggered transfer offers too good for the club to turn down.

It seems that Pomykal has used this downtime to work on his body.
Kid looks jacked compared to a few years ago. He's not some floppy-haired playmaker. More than anything else, Pax needs to stay healthy to go on an impactful run.


By the way.............Tessman too.

 

dallas doing whatever it takes to maximize tessmanns tactical education probably has large bearing on the mens national team. plus plus athlete who has shown very solid technique already. please let that soccer brain be nurtured even if it means selling him sooner than dallas might want to.

 

I do think that Busio was disappointing last night, but he just turned 18! People are coming down way too hard on him.

 

Not at all. This is a kid who the media heralds as one of the top young USMNT prospects and a top 3 prospect in the 2002 age group. This is a kid who has been valued at $10 million by his club. This is a kid who has big European clubs like Juventus, Milan, Fiorentina, and Feyenoord fracking him. A kid with those clubs and that pedigree should be one of the best players on the field in MLS every time he is out there. A kid with that pedigree should be dominant against teams in his age group with the national team. Instead, he has been lackluster at every level excel the USL and low level concacaf teams. We should be expecting more from him and rightfully disappointed when he consistently has dog shit performances in the MLS

 

Yup. I have no problem with folks critically analyzing a youngster's play once he starts playing on a regular basis against adult professionals. For heaven's sake, this wasn't Busio's debut. He played about 1000 minutes last season for the SKC first team across all competitions.

We critically analyze Gio Reyna's performances in Germany after all. Busio is older than Reyna. At some point the argument "he's young and figuring things out" can't be used. Not if we think Busio is at the top of our talent chart.

That's not to say any of us are giving up on Busio. It just an acknowledgement that he has to get better if he expects to regularly start for SKC..

 

frankly he needs to get better to even get minutes for skc. the transfer rumors seem like a long, long way away right now for him, which is sad because he has fallen into the classic mls trap of needing a move since his development has hit a wall in kc but being too pricey for that move to go down.

 

So you're suggesting I can spend my time better than watching SKC a third time in order to find out if Busio really is watched by my club.

 

If we are going to praise young players and call for them tp play, we need to then say when they don't play well enough or aren't good. They can't all be great and all always play great. Some of them don't play well and aren't good. Busio is a player who fits into both of those categories IMO.

 

Honestly, who really gives a damn who the media hypes up or not? We watch these kids plenty.

And can you name specific media members that have really hyped up Busio? They’ve just reported about the European interest in him (which is what reporters do), and then USMNT fans that don’t really follow YNT’s then think he’s some big prospect without having watched him before.

 

The Philly outing was definitely a stock down performance, but I think calling him "trash" is uncalled for. I am neutral on his RSL performance given how SKC sat back and absorbed pressure, and Busio was very good defensively that game. But last night did give me some pause. More than any mistakes that he made, the fluidity that he can play with was nowhere to be seen. Overall, I would have to admit that he is trending downward right now.

 

Yeah that's really what I am meaning. I don't think he played well at all, but people now calling him trash and such is a bit much for a 18 year old. Definitely agree that his stock is trending downwards.

 

The Philly outing was on par for most of his MLS performances sadly. The Philly game wasn't even Busio's worst performance of the tournament which is even more worrying.

 

I bag on MLS' culture of poor development, with some individual clubs being worse/better than others, a lot.

But you can't blanket blame them for everything. It's a case-by-case.

In this case, what has SKC/Vermes done wrong? Busio's been given votes of confidence & ample opportunities from an early age.

All he's ever shown, for club & country, is making some smart runs + being a good ball striker. That's not a foundation for a cm.

He would have done the same thing in Europe, bar them thinking outside the box, moving him to striker in spite of his lack of size, and that actually working (which very much remains to be seen). There's no shortage of players deemed promising prospects in Europe who flop.

The problem is more the superficiality of what some view as promising - simply turning pro early & scoring the occasional goal. And SKC locking into trying so hard to make him work over focusing more on Duke, Brown, Hernandez, Lindsey, etc.