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Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Nico Limmat, Feb 24, 2014.

  1. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Then that's good...gives countries in EURO 21 adequate preparation time
     
  2. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
  3. Ofori

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    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
  4. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Only 3 according to the linked article. There will be 8 stadiums in total. At least that's the plan...
     
  5. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    So 5 more stadiums left...they have what 2 more years to complete
     
  6. Holiday_Jenkins

    Barcelona
    United States
    Jun 10, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It will be league cups. Missing a month is on average5 or 6 league matches and 1 max 2 European matches per month. Easy to make that up by skipping domestic cups for a year. In England the Premier League is separate from the FA but the Premier League runs club football, but in many European countries the national federations run club football and the money they get from international football is greater than domestic cup matches so the incentive is in place to go along with UEFA's new modified calendar which they all created and agreed to anyway.
     
  7. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    But then how about the domestic leagues in North America (MLS, Canadian Premier League, Liga MX, etc) or the other leagues in Asia, Africa, etc. how does FIFA plan on compensating those leagues in terms of modifying calendars
     
  8. Holiday_Jenkins

    Barcelona
    United States
    Jun 10, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Those leagues aren't in a sprint to get this season and next done by June 2021. Those leagues also don't take a month off during Euro 2021.
     
  9. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Yeah that's true but some of those players play in USA, Mexico, Canada, Asia, Africa, etc. so their leagues may not even allow them to play in EURO 2021 so there's that too
     
  10. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Clubs must release players for FIFA breaks and major int'l tournaments. Unless that rule doesn't apply in this instance due to the Euros being rescheduled, but I highly doubt that. And Copa America is supposed to take place next summer too.
     
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  11. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    So much international tournaments in such a small window of time and you can bet qualifiers now for Qatar at best will be shortened especially if you try to fit everything in like CONCACAF Nations League, UEFA Nations League, Champions League, etc.
     
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  12. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At least this one is easy: Concacaf just has to play out the Finals from the first edition, which will likely happen at the first available opportunity (October or November). The second CNL wasn't going to begin until after WCQ anyways...
     
  13. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yoooooooo @Nico Limmat where did this beef come from? :eek: I can't remember the last time I heard of any acrimony within the Swiss MNT.
     
  14. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Then that of course makes sense but then wouldn't it make sense for Asia and Africa to do the same and have their own Nations Leagues as a way to fast track towards WCQ
     
  15. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Conmebol's WCQ will now start in October, with a special FIFA window in January 2022 being considered so that they can play out the full schedule.
     
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  16. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Sucks but not unexpected.
    The Pandemic is just unpredictable.
     
  17. Jay510

    Jay510 Member+

    Apr 21, 2002
    Gadsden Purchase, AZ
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    any updates on CONCACAF?
     
  18. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Next year.
     
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  19. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The going rumor is the 3 groups of 4...but with Concacaf having room for up to 14 matchdays between March 2021 and March 2022, I just can't envision only using 6 of them for the Top Tier (the Tier II tournament will have to use up all 12 matchdays in 2021, mind).

    Maybe Montagliani and co. settle on 2 Hex groups? Winner of each goes to the WC finals, and runners-up play off with the winner qualifying and the loser taking on the Tier II winner for the intercontinental playoff berth.
     
  20. jagum

    jagum Member

    CF Montreal
    Venezuela
    Jun 20, 2007
    Panama City, Panama
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Venezuela
    Yes. Since yesterday, some Panamanian media have leaked a possible format that would be made official on July 20: The first 5 ranked teams would get a bye to the final octagonal (Mexico, USA, Costa Rica, Jamaica and Honduras), while the rest of the 30 teams play a few previous rounds to find the 3 remaining places.

    https://www.tvmax-9.com/somoslasele/ventila-formato-eliminatorias-Concacaf-Catar_0_5620687983.html
     
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  21. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Makes sense to start in October. Peru, Chile and Brasil are the 3 countries being hit the hardest by COVID at the moment.

    A January FIFA window would make it increasingly difficult to finish UEFA leagues in time for the Euros and Copa America to proceed as scheduled. By my calculation, even if teams played 2 matches every week, leagues would only fit 19 rounds of matches in before Christmas.
     
  22. Jay510

    Jay510 Member+

    Apr 21, 2002
    Gadsden Purchase, AZ
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Octagonal, thats been the rumor, you gotta wonder if it will be 2 groups of 4 then playing 6 matches, with 2nd place teams playing off for final spots.

    8 teams would mean 14 games, seems tough to do
     
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  23. jagum

    jagum Member

    CF Montreal
    Venezuela
    Jun 20, 2007
    Panama City, Panama
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Venezuela
    Fifa rejected the groups of 4, considering that six games were too few to qualify for a World Cup .... If Conmebol will make a decagonal, I don't see why Concacaf cannot make an octagonal...
     
  24. Jay510

    Jay510 Member+

    Apr 21, 2002
    Gadsden Purchase, AZ
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    well 2 groups of 4 as part of the octagonal
     
  25. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Source?

    Mind you, Icaza just refers to a Final Round of 8, not that they would all be in the same group.

    But let's say that an Octagonal is on the table (which would spare us the need for a 4th-place playoff). That's 14 matchdays, which could be spread out as:

    March 2021
    June 2021 (4 matchdays)
    September 2021
    October 2021
    November 2021
    March 2022

    That's doable, but leaves two glaring issues:

    1) When would the Gold Cup playoffs take place? 'cause that 2021 Gold Cup's happening one way or another - Concacaf's depending on it and the Nations League finals to cushion the financial blow from this year.

    2) More importantly, how do you cut down 30 teams to 3 in only 4 games (Oct and Nov 2020)? It's impossible unless single-elimination matches are on the table; and for Montagliani, it would be an utter betrayal of his commitment to get more games for the smaller teams.


    I think you might have misread it: the proposed extra window is January 2022.
     
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