Democratic Failure Thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by MasterShake29, Mar 27, 2011.

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  1. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    #1676 charlie15, May 22, 2020
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    Agree about painting himself in a corner. He will pick one of those four above.
    I don't think he is taking black people for granted though. He said it in jest and now all the woke are up in arms. At the end of the day though, that will not have much impact on the black vote.
     
  2. charlie15

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    Oh...you know Charlemagne or did you have to google him?
     
  3. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    I like Val Demings. Imagine her vs
    Pat Boone Pence
     
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  4. rslfanboy

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    Timon should know of him.

    Aren't you aware of Charlemagne's connection to the Proud Boys and No-Fappers? (this is not said sarcastically or in a belittling tone)
     
  5. taosjohn

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    I don't get the impression that he particularly minds being in that corner.

    I was hoping for Klobuchar, but more because I like Harris where she is a lot and think Klobuchar's personality might be a little better for repairing the damage from Bizarro President...
     
  6. Timon19

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    I'm not sure how "No Fappers" could be taken otherwise, but I've never heard of the...movement?

    Anyway, I'm familiar with Charlemagne tha God through his appearances on Kennedy, and some interviews in the Reason orbit.

    Can't wait for him to be cast out for that.
     
  7. rslfanboy

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    I guess you would have to ask the No Fappers if they are offended.
     
  8. Timon19

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    Well, sure. But on the surface it sounds derogatory. I know less than nothing about them, though.
     
  9. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    They sound like a bunch of jerkoffs
     
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  10. rslfanboy

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    I agree. That's why I added the qualifier.
     
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  11. Auriaprottu

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    That's going to backfire. He will lose anyone on the fence.
     
  12. onefineesq

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    Why? Most people thought he was going to pick a Black woman anyway. Now I think most of the doubt left the building.
     
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  13. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    The Veep candidate who can go shot for shot with Uncle Joe will seal the deal
     
  14. yossarian

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    I have a sock full of quarters list for bands, ie, bands I would hit with a sock full of quarters so I wouldn't have to listen to them. Bill Burroughs's wife's dildo's band is near the top of the list.
     
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  15. Auriaprottu

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    I don't disagree with this. I'm just not sure it'll play well in November.
     
  16. Dr. Wankler

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    Their first drummer when they were still students at Bard College was Chevy Chase.
     
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  17. taosjohn

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    I felt the same way about them for most of their heyday.

    But I had to play them at my radio station almost every day, and after awhile their cleverness, and their love of Brubeck (which I share and can hear all over their albums) overcame my resistance to the brutal cynicism and the unwllingness to really rock. I still hate "Pretzel Logic," but I now own everything else and listen to it as often as most.

    Whereas REM, "Document," "Green," and "Automatic" fill my needs nicely, albeit I probably listen to each 3 or 4 times as often as any one Brecker/Fagan effort...
     
  18. Auriaprottu

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    Wow! I mean, I don't hate ANY band that much. What brings this about?

    Well, he ended up faring better than Pete Best and Henry Padovani, that's for sure

    I don't claim SD expertise, but I can't help thinking that any expectation that they'd ever really rock is more hopeful than it should be. The rock-iest hits that I know of that got play are Do It Again and Reelin' In The Years. The first is rock, but it doesn't really rock (verb)- it's a laid-back, stoner kind of rock. Trance-y, repetitive progression with a Coral solo followed by a much more jazz than rock keyboard solo. Peg is pop, IMO, with just enough variety in the progression to satisfy the hardcore fans. Rikki is pop. Josie is pop. All those crossed over a bit to R&B, at least on the local stations where I grew up.

    SD is Deacon Blue and Aja, etc. most of the time. Aside from RITY, what do you hear in them that makes you think they wanted to rock? I'm glad you came to like them...
     
  19. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    Here's what I got for Creed, Nickelback & Queen

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  20. chaski

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    Unless they are Democrats, this is off-topic.
     
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  21. bigredfutbol

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    He's a pretty well-known public figure. I think we get his show on cable.
     
  22. yossarian

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    https://entertainment.theonion.com/donald-fagen-defends-steely-dan-to-friends-1819570386

    R.E.M. was the band that most informed my taste in music, as I started listening to them in early high school when Murmur came out (courtesy of a friend's older sister who was in school in Athens and was waaaay cooler than any of us. During this quarantine I've been doing a deep dive back into all their albums as a result of a funny podcast. It's called "RU Talking R.E.M Re: Me? and it's Adam Scott from Parks and Rec and Scott Aukerman from Comedy Bang Bang going through every track of every R.E.M. album and discussing/cracking jokes/reminiscing about when they first heard said track. A good time suck.
     
  23. yossarian

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    Mostly me being hyperbolic but there also must be some deeply repressed childhood trauma for which their songs are the Pavlovian bell and years of hypno-therapy could possibly remedy.
     
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  24. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    I thought New Adventures in HiFi was their best in the 90s.

    This ranking of their albums mostly nails it. I would have Life's Rich Pageant above Monster and Document as #2 tho.

    https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/11/ranking-every-r-e-m-album-from-worst-to-best/full-post/
     
  25. yossarian

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    LRP as #8 !!! Good grief that's wrong wrong wrong. It would be my number 1. And I rate Monster a lot lower than most people. Document also gets a little weak, IMO, for the last few songs.
    1. Lifes Rich Pageant
    2. Reckoning
    3. Murmur (virtually tied with Reckoning at 2)
    4. New Adventures
    5. Automatic
    6. Document
    7. Out of Time
    8. Fables
    9. Green
    10. Accelerate
    11. Monster
    12. Collapse
    13. Up
    14. Reveal
    15. Around the Sun
     
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