Pre-match: The inevitable war with Iran

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  1. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    Maybe you should stop trying to be the M.E. America, bruh.
     
  2. VFish

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  3. Pønch

    Pønch Saprissista

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    I think the correct terminology nowadays is Iran shot down a warship...
     
  4. Iranian Monitor

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    Friendly fire incidents are very tragic, but they aren't unique to Iran by any means. You should know better than try to make fun of these kind of tragedies, but I guess you and many like-minded people can't resist.

    A video has surfaced on social media showing the missile being fired, and then the impact, rather clearly:
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    Very sad way for these sailors to die.

    Anyway my deepest sorrow for this tragic incident and condolences to the families of those who were killed. I hope the investigation underway helps learn the proper lessons from the mistakes made that led to this tragedy.
     
  5. VFish

    VFish Member+

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    Forgive my clumsy post, it does make it sound like an act of terrorism rather than a friendly fire accident. It should have read 'Iranian navy sinks a warship'.
     
  6. Iranian Monitor

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    The tweet/video I posted from "Al Araby", as it turns out, like much of the 'social media' tweets, photos and videos on Iran by the usual suspects, seems to be fake (showing footage from an unrelated exercise).
     
  7. +PL+

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    #1632 +PL+, May 11, 2020
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    Iranian regime has destroyed fishing industry in the south by giving fishing rights to Chinese companies who wiped the Persian Gulf and Sea of Oman with their huge vessels and bottom and deep trawl fishing.



    Now Iranian fishers should go to Indian Ocean near Indian waters to catch something. This is crazy. People protested against this and Chinese ships started to use Iranian flags to cover up their operation. :whistling:

    Bottom trawling is banned in many regions around the world because it will destroy the sea bed and fish reproduction process. Chinese companies gained fishing rights 4 years ago, and now that the number of fishes have declined, they come every two months to wipe out the left overs. Local fishers are desperate now and instead of daily trips, they should go to sea for days and weeks to catch something. :thumbsdown:
     
  8. +PL+

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    #1633 +PL+, May 12, 2020
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    Both German and Turkish officials denied buying Covid-19 test kits from Iran.
    The news coming out of Iranian officials are not reliable and have only local consumption. They constantly lie about standard of living among Iranians and their advancements.

    Here is a link to German broadcasting News channel Deutsche Welle/Persian article about this issue.

    https://m.dw.com/fa-ir/ترکیه-هم-دریافت-تست-کرونا-از-ایران-را-تأیید-نکرد/a-53402033
     
  9. Mani

    Mani BigSoccer Supporter

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    #1634 Mani, May 14, 2020
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    Every year of Iranian history from the beginning till now. A reminder to all the traitors and their masters that regimes come and go, dynasties will rise and fall, but Iran & Iranian civilization will always remain and will never be defeated.





    Those who think Iran is some Banana Republic that can be colonized, should be reminded that there is a 5-star hotel in Iran that’s actually older than the U.S.

     
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  10. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    A theocratic petrol republic.

    And that decor makes it 3.5 or 4 tops.
     
  11. Mani

    Mani BigSoccer Supporter

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    #1636 Mani, May 14, 2020
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    Since a lot of people here are clearly clueless about Iran, and strangely enough, seem very proud of their ignorance too, below are some POV videos of a random Youtuber walking through the streets of Tehran, from the more affluent area of Chitgar Lake to the middle-class area of Vali Asr, to the poorest area of Shahr-Ray...









     
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  12. Iranian Monitor

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    The Abbasi hotel in Isfahan (which I have stayed at a few times) is actually pretty nice as is the city of Isfahan more generally. But some of my favorite traditional style hotels in Iran are in other cities such as Kashan and Yazd. While they are smaller than the Abbasi, they are better (privately) managed and for me they can leave you with a feeling that the best in the world (not just in Iran either) isn't necessarily the most modern architecturally.

    Here is a list of the top 10 in Kashan (population 300,000) as chosen by trip advisor's visitors. I have stayed at a couple of them, with my favorite now falling in trip advisor's rankings quite a bit but at the time on top of their list.

    Photos taken from the trip advisor site (visitor photos).

    https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotels-g680023-Kashan_Isfahan_Province-Hotels.html
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    Amirza Traditional Hotel
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    Iranian House
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    Sana Historical Hostel
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    Manouchehri House
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  13. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
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    Umm - take this to the Art & Architecture forum...

    Oh God, did I accidentally start Iran War VI?
     
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  14. Mani

    Mani BigSoccer Supporter

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    You want political content? Ok. How about a video of AIPAC foreign policy chief admitting that Iran is generally underestimated:

    Or a video of New York Times editor Roger Cohen talking about how and why the Trump administration's unilateral sanctions on Iran just don’t work:
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  15. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    While you're here, how would you grade this Trumpian bathroom?

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  16. Iranian Monitor

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    Iran is not a 'petrol republic'. In fact, I am not at all bothered by the sanctions against Iran if they only prevented Iran from selling oil (Iran hardly sells much oil these days). Iran is a pretty self-sufficient country and, unlike petrol sheikdoms who act as US vassal states in the region, has a lot more than oil. Too bad those sanctions and other measures against Iran prevent it from being able to compete fairly and openly in the different markets in the world. Otherwise, among the many things Iran could sell (which to tie it with the topic of this thread I suppose) is its air defense systems and missiles. Not the Russian one that shot down the Ukrainian airliner, but the Iranian one that shot down the US Global Hawk drone.

    Since someone here has complained about art and architecture being posted, here is about Iran's Bavar 373 air defense system. A system that (like so much Iran produces) many people are desperate to tie to some foreign design and technology. While I am sure Iran didn't re-invent the wheel when it produced the Bavar 373, the stupid nonsense about it being a "S-300 clone" is now clearly shown to be false. Even by western intelligence assessments.

    There are many countries that could use this system, if only Iran was permitted to compete openly and sell it to countries which now rely on US or Russian systems.
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    What is the foreign assistance??? I am sure Iran didn't invest the wheel all over again, but:

    But, even when the evidence and analysis belies the idea that the system can be linked to any 'foreign system, the assumption that it would have been "impossible" for Iran to develop it on its own, persists!

     
  17. The Devil's Architect

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    Not really, I just dont care if you and everyone else over there murders each other. Unlike other Christians, my salvation isn't dependent on lifting a finger or not for Israel
    By Trump standards, it's a little sedate, cheap but not tacky like he likes it. The lavatory is cheap solid surface, probably not even Corian and the plumbing fixtures should be oil rubbed bronze, not gold to reflect the middle eastern vernacular. Besides, keeping the same dimensions of the mosaic tile up the walls on the wainscot just tells me you didn't have enough money for good tile and you got this on discount from your brother in law's flooring store in Piscataway
     
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  18. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    Hey - Louie's Discount Flooring and Nail Salon has been deemed an essential business
     
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  19. The Devil's Architect

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    Jerseylicious
     
  20. Iranian Monitor

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    I don't think Trump would like any of these traditional hotels I posted pictures from. Especially not the smaller, privately owned and managed, traditional hotels in places like Kashan. His loss.

    He might be alright with these 'modern' Iranian hotels instead, even if Iran certainly can't compete with other countries when it comes to top of the line 5 star hotels owned and financed by large multi-national companies.

    The good thing about even our modern hotels is that (with very few exceptions) all are owned by Iranian companies. Among them:

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    Espinas Palace Hotel in Tehran
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    Darwishi Royal Hotel, Mashhad

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    Shiraz Hotel, Shiraz Iran
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    Marina Hotel, Kish


    But for each of these (and many more), I still prefer the traditional style hotels in Iran. If not, I would go with ones that (even if modern) are still inspired by traditional, historical, motifs -- like the Darius Grand Hotel in Kish.
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  21. Mani

    Mani BigSoccer Supporter

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    #1646 Mani, May 14, 2020
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    Mark Wiens stayed there recently:


     
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  22. The Devil's Architect

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    All of those are shit except for the Darwishi Royal
     
  23. song219

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    #1648 song219, May 14, 2020
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    If your government had made sure Trump could get a Trump Plaza in Iran, not only would there be no sanctions but Trump wouldn't have cared less if Iran obtained nuclear weapons
     
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  24. Iranian Monitor

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  25. Iranian Monitor

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    Although the problems Iran has with the US are bigger than Trump, and won't be solved with or without him, I have a 'project' in mind that could have really enticed Trump as a business man. Specifically, I like Iran to move its capital from Tehran and build a new one called "Parsa". A capital which would include several different districts (or cities) including:
    1- Iranshahr (which would focus on Iranian/Persian architectural and historical motifs and cultural preferences, serving as the seat of the elected government)
    2- Islamshahr (which would focus on Iran's Islamic heritage and Irano-Islamic cultural and architectural motifs, and serve as the seat of Iran's religious leadership)
    3- Shahr-Farang (the city or district built around the western cultural and architectural motifs, which -- besides the best from western civilization -- could have a district named after New York with skyscrapers and the kind of buildings and things Trump likes to build. He could be given a part of that project:)
     

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