If fool me twice is shame on me, what is fool me ten times? Shoot me in the head? Enough. At least I finally did learn my lesson. *Plonk*
Oh Cummins is the worst sort of guy to have involved in running this sort of crisis. He's an example of what used to be called 'an educated idiot' who thinks he's a genius but isn't actually particularly bright. He seem to think others disagree because they're not smart enough. The only thing worse than him are these religious morons, out-and-out crooks and the political zealots the US has in their droves. Having said that he might possibly be one of the last of that types as well. It's hard to tell because he's never examined in any real depth because spads are given something a free rein in our political climate. At the end of the day, however, it's down to our politicians to carry the can for their mistakes. Not unelected bureaucrats and 'advisers'.
But are you buying what the US regime is saying. By that I mean from the leader of the orange world. Even if he has a cure.
China had people dying the in the street. I don't know if they still do. In case the linked article is behind a paywall (the covid-19 stuff is supposed to be freely accessible, though), the article leads with a photo of two men in hazmat suits near the body of a businessman on an urban sidewalk. The picture's too large to upload, but the caption is "Officials at the scene on Thursday where a man collapsed and died on a street near a hospital in Wuhan. It was unclear whether he had contracted the coronavirus.Credit...Hector Retamal/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images"
No, that's a line you've been pushing for some time but it's not actually true. The decision to help businesses and individuals at a reasonable level was taken relatively quickly when the decision was made to have the lockdown. So there have been failings, (lack of sufficient testing and PPE being the obvious examples), and some correct decisions but, also, the government hasn't pitched one part of the country against the other so to say we've been worse than donny tiny hands is plainly inaccurate.
Maybe I've missed it, but I haven't seen anything indicating stanger is buying the Admin's...well, anything, really. Do you have evidence otherwise?
I don’t use the ignore function. Well once. But I’m tempted with this guy. I just scroll past when I see the name.
You must have misinterpreted what you think I wrote then. Saw a good quote today but can’t cite the source. “Everything done before a pandemic is alarmist, everything after is inadequate.”
I've seen that a good bit. As with most things, there's a lot of truth with it. And there is also some room to quibble (since it's designed as an axiom, when few things are truly axiomatic).
That’s good. My question was a simple hypothetical. Do you trust Trump over Kim. It’s a pretty close call.
I found the quote a couple of days ago. "Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do after will seem inadequate." - Mike Leavitt, former governor of Utah, head of the Department of Health and Human Services during W's second term. Republican, and I'm usually one of those people who disregards what people say if they have an R after their name. He wrote an op-ed for Fox News a month ago which was quite sensible.
That sounds familiar. I have heard it from several sources, though. We'll probably never know who coined it.
Another rundown on the Trump letdown. Five Takeaways on What Trump Knew as the Virus Spread An examination by The New York Times reveals that there were warnings from the intelligence community, national security aides and government health officials — even as the president played down the crisis. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/11/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-response-takeaways.html
I think that as long as we are seeing thousands of daily deaths in the US as well as tens of thousands of new cases of coronavirus, and similar figures all over the world, we should continue to "suffer the inconvenience and the economic impact of social isolation", as you put it. We also need to start planning how we will respond to the economic impact. We need leadership from the top, both from government and from our private sector. And we need to step up as individuals. Certainly lots of people will lose their jobs, their home, their businesses. But this is not the same as people losing their lives. There will be new jobs, new homes, new businesses, as we rebuild the economy the right way. We will need to work on our safety net, but also it will be a great opportunity for small business owners and for the entrepreneurs among us. There will be new opportunities. I think in the US, this will be an opportunity for the private sector to bring back some of the manufacturing we've lost, and for the government to focus on rebuilding our infrastructure. We will need to support those who will suffer the worst of the economic struggles caused by coronavirus, but we also will need to create a positive business environment for entrepreneurs and companies, as well as productive public projects. That is how we are going to rebuild the economy. That is the challenge that will face us. The message should be: Let's beat coronavirus, do what the doctors tell us, and we'll beat this thing. The government will help you during this crisis. Once it's over, we will help you rebuild the economy. That should be the message, and it should be consistent. We need to know that our leadership will support us, be on our side. Enough of the divisive bullshit we get from Trump and his right wingers, as well as from some on the left! This is certainly not the time for it.
Yeah...me neither. I'll wait for whomever is the Press Secretary of the day to chime in! I long for the days when Nixon, Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Mitchell, and Kissinger could be counted on to keep us informed with the truth!
Well this is sorta good news: Andrew Cuomo says the total hospitalizations for coronavirus cases in the state is about 18,700 but the day-to-day change is down again. There were 53 new hospitalizations in the last day, which is the lowest since they started tracking.
At some point the country needs to reopen and it will probably open before a vaccine is available. The discussion about how and when that happens is going to be an interesting one..
The economy isn't going to survive if we're stuck like this until there's a vaccine, but just reopening without a plan (which is what Republicans seem to be pushing for) will just lead to another wave of hospitalizations and death. Ezra Klein had an article (https://www.vox.com/2020/4/10/21215...ing-economy-recession-depression-unemployment) where he discusses the options. They all suck, some more than others. The basic options are: 1. Just reopen and let people die. 2. Massive surveillance of people to track and contain outbreaks. 3. Massive testing to track and contain outbreaks. The first one sucks, for obvious reasons. The other two are great big impositions on our civil liberties - they need teeth to be effective, you have to be able to quarantine people who test positive, and if the people are not willing to be quarantined, you end up using police power to keep them in line. Those solutions may work in places like Singapore or South Korea, but a lot of Americans are going to fight big police state structures, even those with good intentions to keep us safe, because our history shows that those structures tend to stay in place after the fact and get used for not such good purposes.