Don, yesterday was the highest single day death total in California for Covid-19, only to pass the previous high from the day before. I think SCC is doing well but the overall State total is increasing. Generally i have seen data showing death occurs about 17 to 20 days after infection. We did SIP on 3/16 so 20 days would be 4/5 if everyone stayed home right away. I would say next week will be challenging
I’m noticing a little less hoarding behavior up here in Clark County, WA. Hoping that’s a positive sign. Still can’t find yeast, and rice is in short supply, though my local Natural Grocer has some. I had to buy a computer monitor for my wife who is adding to her home office setup. So I ordered it online from BestBuy, and then went to pick it up. They aren’t letting anyone in the store, but you order in advance. Drive up to the store, tell them who you are. (You can check in from your phone too.) Then someone fetches your stuff. It was pretty cool, and really minimized their employees exposure to other people. Go Quakesfans!! - Mark
Don, I am not aware of any definitive finding that prior infection with Covid-19 necessarily confers immunity to future exposure, so I think your conclusion is speculative at best. My son is convinced that this is the case, and since his job requires him to still be out and about, is counting on it. I sure hope that he (and by association, you) are right!
There is anecdotal evidence that at least some people can become sick twice with COVID-19. It’s not definitive, but it’s suggestive. And sadly, the available data is far from complete or even statistically significant. (Could those folks have other immune issues that other people don’t?) And has anyone posted this yet? https://www.today.com/video/surgeon...are-a-national-stay-at-home-order-81482821590 Yeah, good freaking idea. Go Quakesfans!! - Mark
https://nypost.com/2020/04/01/lindsey-graham-calls-on-china-to-shut-down-disgusting-wet-markets/ “I don’t think this came from a Chinese military lab, but these wet markets are gross, they’re just absolutely disgusting, selling exotic animals that transmit viruses from animals to human beings..." "We think … this whole thing started from a transmission from a bat to a human. About the last three or four pandemics have come from the Chinese wet markets." "If you don’t shut those wet markets down, our trading relationship is going to change..." "The source of this virus is the Chinese wet markets. But when you look — have doctors who come on and ask them, how many diseases have come from China through these wet markets where you intermingle all kinds of exotic animals, it’s just really a gross display of how you prepare food, that needs to stop.” -Sen Lindsay Graham (today) "Living and dead animals being sold at these markets include pigs, oxen, ducks, chickens, bats, dogs, monkeys and cats." The ranking (R) seems pretty confident this pandemic "and the last three or four pandemics" have come from these "wet markets." I've never heard the term "wet market" and I'm not sure exactly what it means, or, what the science is behind the senators comments, but this seems like something we should be deeply concerned about. I mean WTH, are people seriously eating bats, dogs, monkeys and cats?? I had heard some of that before but preferred to dismiss it as hysterical, possibly racist or just plain nonsense but sounds like there's some really weird dietary habits going on that have quite possibly led to the current global devastation.
[QUOTE="Quakes05, post: 38608103, member: . . . I mean WTH, are people seriously eating bats, dogs, monkeys and cats?? I had heard some of that before but preferred to dismiss it as hysterical, possibly racist or just plain nonsense but sounds like there's some really weird dietary habits going on that have quite possibly led to the current global devastation. [/QUOTE] From 2004, based on quick Google search. This has been known for a very long time, well before 2004. Wet markets--a continuing source of severe acute respiratory syndrome and influenza? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14738798
I've read the bat that the virus is believed to have originated from is not indigenous to Wuhan. Can't find link at the moment. Time will tell. But it's frightening to me that people who never heard of or believed in wet markets until a moment ago are belittling my informed speculation. EDIT: Here's the link: https://pjmedia.com/trending/did-covid-19-originate-in-a-chinese-lab-and-why-is-it-crazy-to-ask/
Apparently the wet markets have reopened, possibly because Chinese propaganda says that our country inflicted the virus on them.
two weeks ago... today... and I'm not really belittling it, this is central to the whole conversation about the virus and what can be done going forward to save the humans. and when your author states that he sounds "like Alex Jones" you may want to take pause. I doubt all the animals in the Wuhan market are caught and sold locally, doesn't mean they were bio-engineered in a lab to wreak global havoc, intentionally or otherwise.
Unlikely that the virus came directly from bats. For ex: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200317175442.htm "In one scenario, the virus evolved to its current pathogenic state through natural selection in a non-human host and then jumped to humans...The researchers proposed bats as the most likely reservoir for SARS-CoV-2 as it is very similar to a bat coronavirus. There are no documented cases of direct bat-human transmission, however, suggesting that an intermediate host was likely involved between bats and humans. . . . In the other proposed scenario, a non-pathogenic version of the virus jumped from an animal host into humans and then evolved to its current pathogenic state within the human population. For instance, some coronaviruses from pangolins, armadillo-like mammals found in Asia and Africa, have an RBD structure very similar to that of SARS-CoV-2. A coronavirus from a pangolin could possibly have been transmitted to a human, either directly or through an intermediary host such as civets or ferrets."
When I say "informed speculation," I mean just that, not conclusive proof. Yes, non-indigenous animals may have found their way into the Wuhan wet-market via means apart from the coincidentally nearby military labs. (I'm told the Soulard Farmers Market in St. Louis sells fish from the Gulf of Mexico, for example). But it's more than a tinfoil conspiracy theory when a (Chinese) university study speculates that the source is one or both the local military labs. You're welcome to your doubts. But when there's a frog in the milk, you need to suspect it's been watered down, per Mark Twain.
That South China University of Technology "research" is an opinion piece, providing no evidence. It has not been peer reviewed, and the findings are at odds with the scientific community. It seems most likely that the two authors are trying to use the virus as a way to get their 15 minutes in the spotlight. Find one legitimate scientist who supports this misinformed speculation. You can't.
Early on, some sources said that they thought it was from reptiles sold in the wet markets. I don’t think we’ll find out for sure what the origin is for a while yet. And I’ve known about the wet markets for years (thanks PETA!). And yeah, I think they’re gross, but then I’m a vegetarian so I’m a bit more squeamish about these sorts of things. Go Quakesfans!! - Mark
Today, University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine @PittHealthSci scientists announced a potential vaccine against SARS-CoV-2, the new coronavirus causing the #COVID19 pandemic. https://t.co/ILW4IQfou7 pic.twitter.com/Y7l0SifBtn— UPMC (@UPMCnews) April 2, 2020
It is not "essential" for you to be allowed to plant seeds to grow your own food in Vermont. Big Brother will provide for you. It appears Seeds are "non-essential" in Vermont... #Covid1984 #Coronavirus pic.twitter.com/bZbxlNsI3H— Jason Bermas (@JasonBermas) April 2, 2020
Hydroxychloroquine rated 'most effective' coronavirus treatment, poll of doctors finds https://t.co/qjS8f0EXiv pic.twitter.com/02rJfRJLZA— New York Post (@nypost) April 2, 2020
Ouch! https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/health/louisiana-coronavirus-spike/index.html Now those 2,700 cases may not all be one day, some of those test may be a few days old (as in my county). Still, this is a sizable jump in total cases and also in deaths. Yeah, let’s have SIP everywhere, right now. Go Quakesfans!! - Mark
On the one hand, that’s really positive news. I sure hope that their vaccine works!! On the other hand, it won’t be ready for public use for months and months, probably twelve or more months. Stay safe everyone!! - Mark