The 2020 Election Mega Thread

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  1. rich loc

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  2. MatthausSammer

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    This isn't something that should be dismissed out of hand. We're supposed to be better than that. If you've ever attacked Kavanaugh, Trump, etc. on this basis then there's no reason whatsoever to be glib about it for Biden. I haven't heard this before and it should absolutely be heard.
     
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  3. marek

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    we already have plenty of proof (Clinton, Kennedy) that it’s not the same thing

    looks like Sanders will now stick around and Gov. Cuomo might even be drafted

    this primary is nowhere near over
     
  4. Yoshou

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    No... It's over. Tribalism will generally protect Biden from this...
     
  5. MatthausSammer

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    I listened to what she had to say, and needless to say, if it happened it is absolutely vile and disgusting behavior by Joe. Disturbing and disappointing. There weren't witnesses, so there's not a lot to corroborate the story, but I find it plausible enough that it definitely further reinforces another difficulty I have with Joe, namely his tendency to get very frisky and inappropriate with women. I continue to struggle with buyer's remorse that there were what felt like 50 moderate candidates and Joe just had to be the candidate. I understand if people think Bernie was too radical. I don't understand why Joe? I don't think I'll ever understand why Joe. It's deeply unfortunate.
     
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  6. Knave

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    Biden has been a senator and a twice-elected VP. The idea that this lady has been desperate to tell her story but nobody would listen is total BS. If there was substance to this, the press would have been on it like vultures years ago.
     
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  7. Boandlkramer

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    Samma Weltmeister!
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    You’re so angry....it kind of funny really
     
  8. rich loc

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    It's not an easy thing to come foward with, she struggles doing so in the recording, I can see how she would back down with any mild pushback. The argument you make is the same many made for Bill Cosby.
     
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  9. JohnR

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    With Trump as President, I really can't be bothered with these arguments. Anybody who cares about sexual violence will vote for Biden over Trump, because whatever Biden has (or has not) done, he will owe his election to female voters who care about such things. There will be no Brett Kavanaugh nominations under a Biden Presidency.

    This argument is deeply disingenuous, just as the far right/far left argument against Al Franken was, although mainstream Dems (including me) didn't realize that at the time. Been fooled once, won't get fooled again.
     
  10. Knave

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    May 25, 1999
    Yup.

    Biden has effectively won the nomination. So Biden is running against Trump. And Biden will be a VASTLY superior president for women's rights than Trump will ever be. That, seriously, is all that matters to me.

    Allegations from the Clinton era that are apparently now being batted around the media's fringes don't impress me.
     
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  11. JohnR

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    I am willing to believe they are true. That was how things were. Poppy grabbed ass. Bob Dole made a commercial where his dog barks at a bare midriff Britney Spears, and Dole leers and says, "Easy boy." Dole was 74, Britney was 19. It wouldn't surprise me if Joe crossed today's lines too.

    But ... as you write ... there is only one other realistic choice, and he is a whole lot worse.
     
  12. Knave

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    May 25, 1999
    I don't know if it's true or not. I just know the idea that nobody would tell her story is BS.

    The accuser, by the way, lives near me. This was in the local press a year ago:

    https://www.theunion.com/news/nevad...d-her-while-working-in-his-u-s-senate-office/

    It's not like this was unknown. The whole to-do today in the BernieSphere about this being some sort of revelation is interesting in that light.
     
  13. JohnR

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    It's pretty impressive that nobody had anything on Obama. The best that they could do is lie about his birthplace.
     
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  14. Knave

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    Oh, they tried. How quickly we forget the Tony Rezko "scandal".
     
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  15. JohnR

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    It seems quaint to think that one crook associated with a Presidential campaign would be a problem.
     
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  16. The Jitty Slitter

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    Bernard is such a team player and Dem leader
     
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  17. Khan

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    While I'm inclined to hear an accusation, a half-baked accusation by a Bernie supporter doesnt pass the smell test.

    Reading up on Tara Reade makes her sound less-than credible.

    Also, given the GOP's dirt-digging apparatus, one would assume that a 1993 accusation would have been weaponized decades ago. You know, probably BEFORE the author of that tweet was even born. And, you know, to discredit the running mate of that uppity Obama, right? (Yet nary a peep about this from OAN, Fox, nor any of the other right-wing media types.)

    Seriously, go through the replies to that tweet, and her accusation seems to fall apart. YMMV.
     
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  18. The Jitty Slitter

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    Do you know the movie Grand Torino?

    Eastwood's character is based on Knave :p

    [​IMG]
     
  19. Knave

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    :coffee:
     
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  20. The Jitty Slitter

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    You still never invited me to your midterms portico party
     
  21. Boandlkramer

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    Samma Weltmeister!
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    Man....what a sh*tty existence [emoji23][emoji2960]

    [​IMG]
     
  22. The Jitty Slitter

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    He has too many punks on his lawn
     
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  23. Knave

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    I've lately been thinking about spending some quality time on my portico with a bottle of bourbon. But it's really cold outside. And it's snowing.
     
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  24. Knave

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    These?


     
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  25. The Jitty Slitter

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    Save the Bourbon for when we eat Dave in the winter of '21
     
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