All I Do Is Vin Vin Vin - The Vinicius Jr. Thread

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  1. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    Oct 19, 2005
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    His finishing is a big problem. He's been here for a while now and he's had 0 progress imo in that area. While i believe that it's a part of his skillset that will improve over time i am now starting to think whether it can ever be world class...

    Age imo is not an excuse for his terrible finishing. The problem imo seems both technical and mental.
     
  2. 4x4s

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    I disagree. For one he rarely gets an extended run to really score 1 in 2 or 2 in 3 appearances.
     
  3. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    Oct 19, 2005
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    You think his finishing has improved over these 2 seasons?
     
  4. 4x4s

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    He's a lot more confident in front of goal.

    Let's be honest if he had a killer strike he'd Already be a top 10 player in Europe.
     
  5. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    Oct 19, 2005
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    You see that's the problem, i'm not even talking about him having "killer goal scoring instincts" or anything similar, i am just pointing out how plainly bad his shot is. It's below average even for that age group.
     
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  6. temesgen

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    Jun 27, 2004
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    I think it's mental, but definitely an area for improvement. That said I am constantly impressed with his strength, speed and stamina, he can run and does get back and help his defense. Considering his age, it's kinda scare to think where he could be in a few years.
     
  7. 4x4s

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    He's outscored Hazard. On similar playtime.
     
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  8. Anders2555

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    Aug 23, 2018
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    If Vini was constantly scoring, right now him would be one of the best players in the world and a top-5 winger no doubt.

    And that discussion was good because cheered me to see Vinícius numbers, and it was realy good, in a year and a half playing for Real Madrid his was 8 goals and 11 assist (If we count the penalties that ended in goals (Against Atlético Madrid and Girona), in 58 matchs (Of many he left the bench with little play time), Vini was directly involved in more than 20 goals (Not to mention the great performances also) if him were constantly scoring would already be a World Class player, but he will get there, no doubt.
     
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  9. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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  10. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    we knew this would be a tough season for him but he's responded very well. I'd like to see more goals but his attitude is great and if he keeps working like this, it's all going to come together very well.
     
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  11. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    Oct 19, 2005
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    No one is questioning that, this is simply about his finishing and wondering if it can ever be on the same level as his other skills. Rodrygo is similar age and his finishing is worlds better than VJ's.
     
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  12. Anders2555

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    Aug 23, 2018
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    In reality Rodrygo is an exception in this case, Vinícius problem in scoring is a problem for any boy that goes up to the professionals here in Brazil recently (Even P. Coutinho suffered in his early professional years for that, only learned how to finish later)...It is a formation problem in clubs, they prioritize much more the raw talent (The dribbling, Skills, imagination, etc...) than the basic fundaments, and we only realize this when they reach the professionals levels...

    Not without reason many Brazilian players with enormous talent fail in Europe because they lack of basic fundaments, today times are different, talent alone is not enough, and the European giants realized this "phenomenon" and are only buying kids in the 16 - 18 age group because of that, for themselves to develop them.

    Danm, Vinicius said numerous time "Training in Real Madrid is sometimes more intense and more difficulty than official games in Brazil.", haha
     
  13. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    Oct 19, 2005
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    Great post man.

    My fear is that it will take many years for his finishing to catch up to his other talents.
     
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  14. Anders2555

    Anders2555 Member

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    Thanks, man!

    And, yeah, it's not something you learn overnight, but Vini is a extremely hard work boy and he knows, him knows his needs to improve his finishing skills, is something that him always says in his interviews, and with the talent and dedication he has, i know he will succeed.
     
  15. Saeta Rubia

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  16. YOUNGSTARS87

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    Dec 21, 2005
    Pique has the balls to ask any opposition if they're the ones who are crazy
     
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  17. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Tennis has been for Pique what golf has been for Bale, but since he's so involved in the club internally and is very involved with the clubs political side, everybody shuts up about it.

    I think Pique is a clever guy but as a football player he's getting a lot of slack due to being so deep with the clubs culture.
     
  18. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    For me it is purely technical. His shooting technique is bad. Which is why he has issues with finishing.
     
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  19. robertocarlos3

    robertocarlos3 Member+

    Jan 9, 2012
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    We would probably less this discuss or give more slack if we actually had a striker that scores.
    Regardless if it's technical or mental, I don't see an improvement so far.
     
  20. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    He's out scoring our most expensive player ever, and without looking, probably the second most expensive as well at 19 years old.

    In my opinion he'll come good. Even with a full squad I would have him as a starting lineup player.
     
  21. MaxY

    MaxY Member+

    May 24, 2016
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    He's outscoring a 1 goal Hazard who's injured the whole year, you're really still pushing that shit. 3 goals in 1000 minutes is far from enough.
     
  22. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Hazard has one goal from 1124 mins in La Liga and CL. That's pretty bad even when he's fit. Vinicius has actually played lesser minutes than Hazard so far this season in Liga and CL.
     
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  23. YOUNGSTARS87

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    Dec 21, 2005
    If we do the minute to goal ratios of all of our attackers..... :sick:
     
  24. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Who said that it's enough? If the comparison is between a guy with over 15 years of first division football in Europe and a 19 year old guy who had his breakout last season.
     
  25. Shay Z

    Shay Z Moderator
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    Jan 3, 2007
    I’m sure you use “fit” In the loosest (just like Hazard’s shirts amirite) sense of the word. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     

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