I never read through your whole posts because they're mostly boring and mostly trying to justify that you have no bad feelings towards the crimes of the Ustasa led by Croatian Nationalists. Nor do you seem to care about the pillaging of land, rapes and murders from Croatian Nationalists disguising themselves in the Yugoslav banner of the Foibe massacres, all because you weren't born at that time. If there was ever a more pathetic cop out, I haven't heard it yet. You try to apologize away from their sins effectively making you a guilty party to them. Since you are not allowed to have an opinion of their atrocities because heaven forbid you were not born then, what is your opinion of the rising nationalist and fascist tendencies of your people now? I'm asking about both in Croatia and abroad like I've provided evidence for in Australia. human swastika from Croatian Nationalists Croatia's National Soccer Team Celebrates With a Nazi-supporting, Fascist Singer, Dividing the County Marko Perkovic—nicknamed Thompson, after the submachine gun— begins his performances with the battle cry of the Ustase, and Nazi salutes can be seen in the audience https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/...ctory-lap-with-team-divides-croatia-1.6295638 Croatian fans cutting a swastika into the pitch of an international qualifying match. Squirm your way out of that one with another 10,000 word essay with random video's inclusive.
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Leonardo Musupic Since you never read my posts, our correspondence is finished. Pointless to discuss. Keep your silly communism under your pillow. Pleasant dreams. Allow normal people to discuss here. Again you are being funny with the story about right wing people under the Yugoslav banner. This can't go together, not in a million years. Your claim might pass, but Ustase were banned: 8 May 1945. Not in 1943, not in 1943. Non-communists don't become communists, it's always the opposite. Communists become right-wing, nationalists, devoted Roman Catholics, Pro Life. Numerous proofs from Balkan Peninsula. Your crimes are your crimes: communist crimes. Foibe are only a small bridge to create the complete innocence of communists. During the war you fought against non-communists, so the war justified communists. But Foibe is something that touches the communist shady soul. Now you have to get rid of that unpleasant shade so you need to attach these crimes to someone. Who is available? Not Serbia, they are our Soviet brothers, just like Montenegro and Macedonia. Oh, lets pick the only Roman Catholics in the Balkan Peninsula that we could never beat. With this nice draft, we remove the country, the religion and our Serbia gets the coast as Yugoslavia. You only cry because no one commemorates Yugoslav Partisans in Sutjeska and Neretva. You can't trick the people. People know from who to escape and hide: the red star. That's why no one understands you seriously, because comic books are the most demanding literature for you. And you suggest remedy. After so many crimes and deaths at the end of WWII and after without tribunal, questioning. Only purity of death. You can play with people who were not the victims of communism and pretend to be progressive. But with victims you can't play. Victims are no longer silent witnesses. Enjoy with historic dribbling, after all this is football forum. Dribbling, making tricks, pretending, acting, objecting, cheating, sounds familiar? Your communist ideology.
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So prosecutors recommended 9 years in jail for Roger Stone? For what exactly? White collar dumb political lies? There are bank robbers, drunk drivers, illegal aliens, murderers, child molesters and rapists who get less and they say its not political? They are just trying to justify the Muller report. What a bunch of losers!
http://opinione.it/politica/2020/02...vi-monrupino-basovizza-istria-fiume-dalmazia/ Nel “Giorno del ricordo” delle foibe, Matteo Salvini e Giorgia Meloni condannano la pulizia etnica ordita da Tito contro gli italiani della Venezia Giulia, del Quarnaro e della Dalmazia. "è ancora l’indifferenza, la violenza e l’ignoranza" “Oggi – ha ribadito Salvini – è una giornata importante che dovrebbe unire tutto il Paese in nome del ricordo di tutte queste migliaia di donne, uomini e bambini massacrati solo in quanto italiani. Una vera e propria pulizia etnica fatta dai comunisti slavi e non solo." "....è necessario “onorare il ricordo del passato perché non accadano mai più bestialità simili in futuro." "La presidente di Fratelli d’Italia ha scelto Facebook per “per rendere omaggio agli italiani uccisi dal disegno di pulizia etnica del maresciallo comunista Tito, condannare ogni forma di negazionismo e rinnovare il nostro legame con la comunità italiana presente nelle terre dell’Adriatico orientale. Nel “Giorno del Ricordo” – ha scritto la Meloni – ho scelto, ancora una volta, di essere qui di essere qui alla foiba di Basovizza”." "La leader di FdI stamattina ha partecipato alla cerimonia solenne presso il Sacrario della foiba. “La ricorrenza di oggi – ha postato la Meloni – non è solo l’occasione per onorare i martiri delle foibe e il dramma dell’esodo istriano, fiumano e dalmata, ma anche il momento per celebrare il rapporto dell’Italia con i connazionali che vivono in Istria, a Fiume e in Dalmazia. Un legame che non si spezzerà mai e che è un dovere delle istituzioni rafforzare ogni giorno”." I would only add that communism also had multi-ethnic dimension. But Salvini said it: "slavi e non solo". At least normal people know what happened.
You not speak normal and offensive very silly white supremacist. Moderators please make note of slurs. I thank you in advance. @Tifoso
Oh really? A million years? The leader of the Yugoslav party was a Croat. Josip Broz was born on 7 May 1892 in Kumrovec, a village in the northern Croatian region of Hrvatsko Zagorje. At the time it was part of the Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia within the Austro-Hungarian Empire.[a] Ethnicity: Croatian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josip_Broz_Tito Broz was christened and raised as a Roman Catholic.[15] His father, Franjo, was a Croat whose family had lived in the village for three centuries. Broz identified as a Croat like his father and neighbors.[19][20][21] Minahan 1998, p. 50. Lee 1993, p. 9. Laqueur 1976, p. 218. In May 1913,[31] Broz was conscripted into the Austro-Hungarian Army,[33][e] for his compulsory two years of service. He successfully requested to serve with the 25th Croatian Home Guard (Croatian: Domobran) Regiment garrisoned in Zagreb. Domobran? What is the meaning of this Gilbertsson? I'm glad you asked. Although initially significant numbers of ethnic Croat officers from the old Yugoslav army joined the Croatian Home Guard, most not entirely voluntarily, they were mistrusted by the new Ustaše puppet regime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_Home_Guard_(World_War_II) The army of the Independent State of Croatia was organized in November 1944 to combine the units of the Ustaše and Croatian Home Guard into 18 divisions, comprising 13 infantry, two mountain, two assault and one replacement Croatian divisions, each with its own organic artillery and other support units. There were also several armoured units, equipped in late 1944 with 20 Pz IIIN and 15 Pz IVF and H medium tanks.[14] From early 1945, the Croatian divisions were allocated to various German corps and by March 1945 were holding the Southern Front.[8] Securing the rear areas were some 32,000 men of the Croatian Gendarmerie (Hrvatsko Oruznistvo), organised into five police volunteer regiments plus 15 independent battalions, equipped with standard light infantry weapons, including mortars.[15] Hrvatski Domobran (Croatian Home Defenders) was a Croat political organization that advocated independence for Croatia from Yugoslavia, and became associated with the Ustaše.[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hrvatski_Domobran Bro Tito served for an Ustase regiment and then turned Socialist to command the Yugoslavian army. He appointed many former Ustase in the army of Yugoslavia post WWII. This is a fact you try to ignore, but you cannot. I won't let you. With Bro Tito's blessing and through the violence of former Ustasa criminals the coast was cleansed for Croatian occupation. Clearly he was upset that the coast, belonging to Italy for many centuries prior to the Austro-Hungarian occupation was given back to Italy after WWI. After WWII communists successfully stole it again from Italy, and Croatian Ustase members who were absorbed into the Yugoslavian army appealed to Bro Tito to cleanse the coast. Cleansing was part of their expertise, of course. The very ideology you hate gave you land that doesn't belong to you and the now increasingly stronger presence of fascism in Croatia refuse to make reparation payments to families that had land stolen from them and were executed by Croatian contingent in the Yugoslavian army. Good that this discussion is over by you. That means the people of this thread won't be subjected to 10000 empty words absolving Croatians of any wrong doing. So far we've learned that it wasn't Croatian forces involved in the Ustase. It was Hungarian, Serb, German, Czech and Slovenes, according to you. We then learn it was only Serbs in the Yugoslavian army. Yeah, sure Gilbertsson. It's obvious why you try hard to clear the Croatian Nationalist. These are facts you're desperately trying to avoid and hide from with pathetic excuses like not being born at that time. It was easy to see you'd cop out of commenting on the increasingly strong presence of nazi ideology growing in and outside of your country by Croatian Nationalists. The only reason can be that you support it. Hang your head in shame.
Besides the leader of Yugoslavia being a former Domobran (Ustase) here are many other Croatians who served in the Yugoslavian Army. https://www.refworld.org/docid/3ae6a80c4.html https://www.aph.gov.au/binaries/library/pubs/rp/1995-96/96rp14.pdf It was literally because of strong fascist mentality within ethnic Croatians that destabilized the various ethnicities that managed to maintain autonomy from outside forces due to strength in unity. The diseased fascist mind set destroyed an independent Yugoslavia and created the turmoil you suffer from now. At least you stole the coast, so you have no opinion of it, right Gilbertsson? So Gilbertsson, the coast that was cleansed of Italian with some Serbian and Slovenian land owners was mostly carried out by Croatian Nationalists. If I were you, I'd be embarrassed too.
STATE OF WAR It was a strange and tense atmosphere in the air during this Friday’s EURO group stage game between Croatia and the Czech Republic; as if something was about to happen or maybe even had to happen. The debates in Croatian media and on various social media channels in the days prior to the game had been repeatedly insinuating that there were rumors of a group of organized football fans who would try to interrupt the game. After the incidents in Marseille before and after the game between England and Russia and UEFA’s relatively harsh reaction, this would have been a catastrophe for Croatian football authorities. Although surely not intended as a self-fulfilling prophecy, it certainly nourished anxieties. And then it did happen. Unloading in the 86th minute, only a couple of minutes after French riot police had positioned themselves in front of the Croatian fan sector, a small group of people lit up a dozen of flares and threw them, accompanied by an explosive petard, on the pitch thereby causing a suspension. It was almost a cathartic moment as this group of fans had been repeatedly causing trouble during the entire game. Throughout they repeatedly tried to get themselves heard with problematic content by chanting fascist songs and salutes and exhibiting Ustaša flags and banners; attempts that were drowned in whistles by the rest of the Croatian fans who seemed aware of the potential consequences for a federation that is already on their third strike due to prior racist behavior of their fans and in realistic danger of being excluded from the World Cup qualifiers should these issues occur again. https://www.copa90.com/en/creators/...-croatian-football-seeking-catharsis-nutshell https://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/may/05/racist-abuse-homophobia-football The Siroki Brijeg fans, who are Croats and Catholics, carry both the flags of Vatican and a nazi flag. The group that supports Siroki Brijeg is called Skripari (it’s hard to translate in English, but most accurate would be Crusaders, referring to Croatian fascist militia responsible for many atrocities during the II World War). Unfortunately, many football fans in the Balkans are fascinated with extreme ideology and war criminals.
Leonardo Musupic Josip Broz Tito was a Yugoslav, he was even burried in Belgrade, his capital city. All Yugoslav Partisans fought for Yugoslavia, not for Croatia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josip_Broz_Tito "During World War II, he was the leader of the Partisans." "President of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia from 14 January 1953 to 4 May 1980. While his presidency has been criticized as authoritarian." "Broz was born to a Croat father and Slovene mother in the village of Kumrovec, Austria-Hungary (now in Croatia). Drafted into military service, he distinguished himself, becoming the youngest sergeant major in the Austro-Hungarian Army of that time. After being seriously wounded and captured by the Imperial Russians during World War I, he was sent to a work camp in the Ural Mountains. He participated in some events of the Russian Revolution in 1917 and subsequent Civil War." Even he spent some time in work camp. You ignore his Slovene mother. Upon his return to the Balkans in 1918, Broz entered the newly established Kingdom of Yugoslavia, where he joined the Communist Party of Yugoslavia (KPJ). Communist since 1918 year. "He later was elected as General Secretary (later Chairman of the Presidium) of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia (1939–1980)." "After the war, he was selected as Prime Minister (1944–1963), and President (later President for Life) (1953–1980) of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (SFRY). From 1943 to his death in 1980, Tito held the rank of Marshal of Yugoslavia, serving as the supreme commander of the Yugoslav military, the Yugoslav People's Army (JNA)." All his associates were deeply involved in communism. Prime Minister Himself (1953–1963) Petar Stambolić (1963–1967) Mika Špiljak (1967–1969) Mitja Ribičič (1969–1971) Džemal Bijedić (1971–1977) Veselin Đuranović (1977–1980) Again, your strange attitude. President of Yugoslavia, chief of Yugoslav Army, Yugoslav Parliament, so why would he declare as someone from Croatia? That would be nationalistic and right-wing for him. Dom means Home in Croatian, it came from Latin word Domus. So, how can Domus be something horrible? Il Duomo? You can't connect even basic etymology. Bran, Braniti is a Slavic word for "Defend", "Vratar je obranio" (The Goalkeeper defended). You can be thankful that you know at least one language in a passive way, since your concentration is much weaker for mor demanding texts, that go above your comic book frontiers. So, is Tito great to place him under your pillow or not? You could create the gelato taste, called Maresciallo...cherry red colour?
It's also worth noting that Salvini is a fascist and therefore will support the current rise in fascism within the Croatian ranks. There is no debating this. I can see how you get your pov from, intellectually dishonest as are your compatriots who are trying to rewrite the history of Croatian led forces in the ethnic cleansing of the coast. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Foibe_massacres I alone reported more than a few banned Croatian ultranationalists that would wreak havoc all over the place if they could avoid their block with impunity. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 23:21, 25 May 2009 (UTC) Perhaps you Gilbertsson were one of these ultranationalists? This article should take from that source exactly what the source says: that a joint comittee of Croatian and Italian scholars have studied killings in Fiume area, and their conclusions. --Emanuele Mastrangelo (talk) 16:59, 19 April 2009 (UTC) In September 2006, the Società di Studi Fiumani - Roma (Society of Fiuman Study - Rome) and the Hrvatski Institut za Povijest - Zagreb (Croatian Institute of History - Zagreb) published an overall study regarding the Vittime di nazionalità italiana a Fiume e dintorni (1943-1947) (Italian Victims in Rijeka and the surrounding area (1943-1947)). For each victim found with his first and last names all personal data were reported (first name, last name, date of birth, last known address and so on), the date of death and the cause. According to this study, the total number of Italians killed after the liberation of the city (May 3, 1945) until December 31, 1947 was 647, including 37 women. Also, it is Croatian Partisans that are accused of the killings. History proves otherwise in the Foibe massacres. http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides...T+WQ+E-2004-1631+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN&language=RO Croatia recently stated that it was prepared to relaunch negotiations with Italy on the issue of confiscated property. Will the Commission therefore indicate: 1. whether it would be possible to set up a solidarity fund for Italian exiles from Istria and Dalmatia and for the families of victims of the ‘foibe’ massacres? 2. what steps can be taken to ensure that Slovenia fully complies with the 1975 and 1983 agreements? That was in 2004. To date the fascists still have not been good to their word and of course fascists in Italy are in support. The movement is more important than taking responsibility for your crimes, isn't that right Gilbertsson who has no comment because he was not born then? A secret British-American intelligence report of September 1945, made public a few years ago, is filled with accounts by witnesses to Croatian Partisan atrocities. https://www.nytimes.com/1997/04/20/world/in-trieste-investigation-of-brutal-era-is-blocked.html But there is a new move, led by Giuseppe Pititto, a prosecutor in Rome, to charge three former Partisan officials who live in Croatia.
Of course you'll claim he was Yugoslav because he wanted to unite the ethnicities and did so successfully, but it does not erase that ethnically Big Bro Tito was a Croat! Yugoslav just means united slavs. Nice try with that one. He was born in Croatia. His father was Croatian and mother Slovenian and he identified as a Croatian. Must be hard for you to comprehend a Croatian who wanted unity, even if he served for a Ustasa regime previously. Born Josip Broz 7 May 1892 Kumrovec, Croatia-Slavonia, Austria-Hungary (now Croatia) https://www.britannica.com/biography/Josip-Broz-Tito Tito, Josip Broz: birthplace Josip Broz Tito's birthplace, Kumrovec, Croatia. I win again.