2020 Roster Speculation Thread

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  1. Mikebsiu

    Mikebsiu Member+

    Mar 15, 2008
    Club:
    RSC Anderlecht
    This ^all day long. It is very possible we will be worse than last year. Not sure why Frankowski is not playing in Europe. He’d be a good fit for a Ligue 1 or Bundesliga team. Semi excited to see what Beric can do.
     
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  2. TyrusRose

    TyrusRose Member+

    chicago fire
    North Korea
    Jun 17, 2019
    Last years roster was extremely talented with very little to show for it
     
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  3. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Agreed, that was what I said.
     
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  4. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    Being untalented is not the galaxy-brain solution for that.
     
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  5. TyrusRose

    TyrusRose Member+

    chicago fire
    North Korea
    Jun 17, 2019
    Nor did I say that. This team certainly doesn't wow you on paper, but we have to see how they perform first. Last years team should have been contending for the cup if we're being honest.
     
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  6. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    So many things have to align for this team to succeed it feels almost impossible.
     
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  7. splunge63

    splunge63 Member+

    Mar 30, 2014
    west burbs
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    +1 and no way. Last year's team wasn't near good enough defensively. That said, they easily should've made the POs. They got Pauno'd.
     
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  8. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I think this is pretty accurate. The defense was absolutely terrible until the end of the season when it was only poor. What a wasted generation.
     
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  9. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Oh, and all this speculation about the players? We need to remember that the coach and GM are equally untested.
     
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  10. TyrusRose

    TyrusRose Member+

    chicago fire
    North Korea
    Jun 17, 2019
    If Kronholm didn't totally fall off of a cliff in those two weeks between Kiel and coming here and we could convince Basti to play in the midfield, I don't think a backline of Bornstein-Calvo-Kap-Bronico is bad. MLS average, which should have been sufficient given the amount of offensive firepower we had. Anyways, it doesn't matter anymore, because the group is totally different and dumb Pauno is thankfully gone.
     
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  11. pena pirata

    pena pirata Member+

    Sep 28, 2013
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    We were just unlucky last year. ;)
     
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  12. TyrusRose

    TyrusRose Member+

    chicago fire
    North Korea
    Jun 17, 2019
    Unlucky to have such a shit coach I agree :(
     
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  13. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    While, as is the annual progression of MLS, the entire league grows that much stronger.
     
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  14. Untested in MLS? Yes! I agree Wicky doesn't have much of a resume coaching senior players. But Heitz has a proven record of uncovering and developing young talent. We should have the faith that he can do the same here. The Latin American scout that N-Rod hired has done yeoman work. The fact that signings didn't happen shouldn't fall at his feet.

    It seems Mansueto and too many Fire supporters believed they could throw money at players and fix everything all at once. However, clubs and players have a vote in all this as well. Fortunately, Heitz has stepped in and reminded everyone; Mansueto, Fire fans, transfer targets, and their clubs that while the checkbook is wide open he won't be taken as a fool. This is exactly why Mansueto hired him. Is there anyone else in the league at his position you would rather have?

    We may well look back to appreciate that (save Blanco) Heitz may be the biggest acquisition the Fire have made since the inaugural season. Just like it takes a long time to turn around an ocean liner, it will take time to turn it around here.
     
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  15. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    When we've utilized a pathetic, league-bottom level of financial resources assembling the team amidst an utterly shambolic process, no we don't. This is unacceptable.

    Come talk to me when we're not short 4 of our 5 highest paid players.
     
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  16. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Agreed that Heitz is a proven commodity, but any signing failures should be, at least partially, "at his feet."
    It is his job.
    However, I really do not worry too much about players we do not sign (except for that "big name" player, like Chicharito).

    I am still waiting to see Manseuto throw money at players.
    We have not really been seriously connected to any big money player.
    I have yet to see to a report that we even made a legit offer to Pizarro. There were rumors the Fire were "about" to make a big money offer for him, but not that they did.
    There is actual news that Miami is signing him.

    Gimenez is not a big name (and, again, there is no verification that an offer was made).

    Beric is not a big name.

    That is high praise (even if there is little competition).
    I hope you are right.
     
  17. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The rumor mill has gone quiet.
    The "guaranteed" players who would "make us happy" have not materialized.
    We "lost" three players last week, but not a peep about replacements.
    It is getting close to desperation time.

    We are severely short on Forwards, attacking midfielders, right side defenders.
    We have, maybe, 6 MLS starting-level players:
    Beric
    CJ
    Frankowski
    (hopefully) Medran
    Kappelhoff
    (maybe) Kronholm/Shuttleworth


    Bornstein should get us through at left back
    Calvo may be good enough to start again at CB
    -There should be upgrades for both. Maybe Navarro is the "future" for Bornstein.

    2020 Chicago Fire FC Roster
    as of February 6, 2020:

    HEAD COACH: Raphael Wicky

    FORWARDS (3):
    • Beric, Robert
    • Collier, Eliot
    • Sapong, CJ
    MIDFIELDERS (8):
    • Azira, Micheal
    • Bronico, Brandt
    • Edwards, Raheen
    • Frankowski, Przemyslaw
    • Gutjahr, Jeremiah
    • Herbers, Fabian
    • Medran, Alvaro
    • Mihailovic, Djordje
    DEFENDERS (7):
    • Bornstein, Jonathan
    • Calvo, Francisco
    • Kappelhof, Johan
    • Navarro, Miguel Angel
    • Pineda, Mauricio
    • Reynolds II, Andre
    • Slonina, Nicholas
    GOALKEEPERS (4):
    • Kronholm, Kenneth
    • Shuttleworth, Bobby
    • Slonina, Gabriel
    • Sparrow, Connor
     
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  18. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Roma stole Monchi and his incredible track record from Sevilla. Despite being allowed to make his own decisions and not heavily constrained by cash issues, he still failed.

    Heitz is in new territory. His past has no direct translation.
     
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  19. danimal60914

    danimal60914 Member

    May 15, 2013
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The Titanic took just a few hours to turn straight down.
     
  20. NotHelmut

    NotHelmut Member

    Dec 30, 2010
    Peoria
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Remember when Rodriguez said the Fire were the 3rd or 4th best team in MLS last year after doing data analysis of the season. Apparently we were in the playoffs but didn't realize it.
     
  21. HerthaBerwyn

    HerthaBerwyn Member+

    May 24, 2003
    Chicago
    Boy, Raheen Edwards sure went through the wringer. Transfermarket says the best correlations are USL players and Without Clubs.
     
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  22. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Chicago Fire FC announced today that the Club has acquired defender Wyatt Omsberg from Minnesota United FC.

    In exchange, the Fire traded defender/midfielder Raheem Edwards to Minnesota United.


    An odd move. A guy who could not come close to breaking into the Minnesota team (7 games in 2 years, with 2 loan spells) for Edwards, who should be receiving a green card any time now.

    He was on a $57,500 salary (Edwards made $70,000), so are saving a sliver of money.
     
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  23. goldclover

    goldclover Member+

    Mar 25, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Unreal.
     
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  24. Mikebsiu

    Mikebsiu Member+

    Mar 15, 2008
    Club:
    RSC Anderlecht
    Who in the conference will be worse than us? Orlando? Maybe cincy?
     

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