They Needed a Minivan but Got a Gio: Reyna at Nottingham Forest (Olf Borussia Dortmund)

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  1. butters59

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    Feb 22, 2013
  2. ArsenalMetro

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    Not gonna read the article because the Bundesliga's English language stuff is thinly veiled PR nonsense, but breaking dumb records is definitely the type of thing they'd talk shit to each other about in future US camps.
     
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  3. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Without reading this article you can't imagine what "records" they are talking about. Doubt that it's something to brag about.
     
  4. HScoach13

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    Giovanni at Dortmund, Long may he Reyna.
     
  5. tomásbernal

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    Thanks to whoever created Gio's wikipedia page. I tried a couple weeks ago (after someone else had made an even poorer attempt in November) but it was still awaiting approval since I've never created anything on Wikipedia prior.
     
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  6. uniteo

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    they see a lot of €€ signs right now and maybe some silver before
     
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  7. tomásbernal

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    Are there any highlights of his play in this game yet? Perchance an all-touches video?
     
  8. Beasnter

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  9. Scotty

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    Interesting how much more extensive his German page is by comparison.
     
  10. lmorin

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    Blocked. For me, anyway.
     
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  11. tomásbernal

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    Thanks for posting this but, yeah, looks like it's been taken down for copyright reasons.
     
  12. ttrevett

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    Similar to the ad boards surrounding the fields at the BL games they broadcast on FS1 being mostly in English. Reminds me of the saying: "If something is free, you are the product." Not that FS1 is technically free, but no one is paying specifically for FS1 on Comcast.
     
  13. chad

    chad Member+

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    Not Ghana blow it: Gio Reyna at BVB.
     
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  14. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

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    Gio Reyna: "A dream came true"

    https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2020/01/20/gio-reyna-borussia-dortmund-usmnt/
     
  15. DirectK

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    Jun 27, 2018
    FWIW, Kleiban's assessment of GIo was still lukewarm at best as recently as the U17 WC:



    Also should be noted that "good player" is not really a compliment coming from him. Good = adequate in Gary-speak, a 6 out of 10, at least from what I've seen of his analysis on twitter.
     
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  16. bct81

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    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yes that is a phrase that all must remember in the digital age -

    “if the service is free then you are the product”
     
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  17. bct81

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    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
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    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    where is this all about himself thread coming from? I have not heard of this before.
     
  18. taylor

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    Couple of interesting points taken from transfermarkt;
    1) his contract end in 1.5 years..... Hmmm lol.

    2) he has yet to have a listed market value. Initial value would conservatively be interesting. Would say initially listed 2million€, given transfermarkt expierence.

    3) the dortmund fans are drooling over him on his thread page.
     
  19. bsky22

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    Dec 8, 2003
    Seems like a pretty fair assessment based on his play with the u7s. Which of these three items do you disagree?

    (a) holding on to the ball too long;
    (b) his size at this level helps him a ton, let's see what happens later;
    (c) seems to be about himself, and not the team.


    If you go to this thread, you will see many posters making similar comments. You will also notice the extreme criticism that Kobe got for his play in the WC. Some folks take this stuff too seriously and personally and turn incredibly petty.

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/2019-u17-world-cup-cycle.2076693/page-72

    BUT he's in Euro, so big +

    Dortmund have already looked to have done a great job with him. He looks like a completely different player than he did with the u17s. He has been playing completely within himself, looking for teammates, and his physicality have enabled him to hang with grown men.

    Gary may have not been completely right on this one, but his concerns werent unfounded. The same way that all the people in the Mendez thread that I think are wrong about AM but their concerns about his physical tools still have merit.
     
  20. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    If your last data point was 10 years ago... maybe cue up the vcr... (lol: typo!)

    People having definitive thoughts about the long-term quality/prospects of a 16 yo are braver men than me. Anyone should have seen Reyna potential. Anyone realistic also knows his trajectory will not be straight up to infinity.

    But baring injury (spit, salt, knock, cross, repeat), he sure does not look out of place. Once he starts having to perform day-in, day-out and teams know what they're facing, it will be more interesting. Gotta be pretty optimistic, overall.
     
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  21. DirectK

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    Jun 27, 2018
    Not agreeing or disagreeing necessarily, but since there was some speculation upthread that Kleiban's views may have changed over time, I thought it would be relevant to cite what he has actually said since the initial tweet.
     
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  22. ttrevett

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    Das war ein Foul.
     
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  23. bsky22

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    Dec 8, 2003
    Fair enough. I think that the info that would cause someone to change their mind is relatively new.... last month or so? His play in the WC in October didnt suggest the significant improvement that he has shown playing Dortmund in the last few weeks.
     
  24. DirectK

    DirectK Member

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    Jun 27, 2018
    Agree... obviously the fact that his game is developing rapidly is a hopeful sign for his future potential.

    Oh and I think that Kleiban tweet I linked to may actually be from around the time of the Concacaf U17 championships rather than WC, but I'm too lazy to look it up.

    It's crazy that this kid won't turn 20 until a week before the 2022 WC.
     
  25. Scotty

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    Can you post the link?
     
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