Official 2020 Nadeshiko Japan Thread [R] - なでしこジャパン(英語スレッド)

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  1. Manchester Nadeshiko

    Ehime F.C. Ladies
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2017
    U.K.
    Junshin 1 Kamimura 0.....poor goal keeping
     
  2. Manchester Nadeshiko

    Ehime F.C. Ladies
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2017
    U.K.
    FT.......Good game.....well worth the 5am start....(don't you just love the tears)
     
  3. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member+

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
  4. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    International update (this week-end Serie A Femminile in Italy was scheduled to resume after Christamas break, so we have one more result compared to the previous week):

    Aussie W-Legue:

    - On Thursday, Melbourne City-Canberra United 4-0. City are more than ever leader of the league, since their main rivals of Western Sydney Wanderers have lost at home to Brisbane Roar by 0-4 today. Only problem is Yukari Kinga didn't start for Melbourne and wasn't even on the bench: I searched everywhere on Aussie-W-League website (including Melbourne City's specific website), but I didn't find additional info, except an article acknowledging that Kinga's was indeed the only change in the line-up compared to the previous game. I didn't find any disciplinary record on the league's website, but it didn't seem to me that Kinga had been recently carded, so I have to suppose she's currently injured, or Melbourne City wouldn't have discarded one of their key-players and she would have been at the very least sitting on the bench. No info, though, about this supposed injury: any mention of it on Japanese media or on Yukari's social platforms, for those having access to them in Japanese? :cautious:
    Anyway, these are the highlights of the game (now, for some reason, I seem to be able to see them again): https://www.w-league.com.au/video/melbourne-city-fc-v-canberra-united-highlights-westfield-w-league


    Liga Femenina:

    - On Saturday, Atletico Madrid-Sporting Huelva 1-0. Huelva lost with the minimal goal difference to second-placed Atletico, that's not a bad score in a vacuum. They are now 12th-placed in the rankings. The good news are that Yoko Tanaka was subbed in at 81', so it appears that the injury that removed her from the game last week wasn't a season-threatening one at all. :thumbsup:

    - Also on Saturday, Espanyol-Deportivo Abanca 0-3. Espanyol keep their last position, Deportivo are 4th. Ayaka Noguchi didn't start for Espanyol, but she was hastily subbed-in at 34' when the game was already on 0-2. in Deportivo, Maya Yamamoto started and was subbed-out at 79'.

    - I still owe you Deportivo's result from last week (I had posted my update before Liga's games on Sunday): they had a 1-1 draw in Valencia, with Maya Yamamoto not starting and never subbed-in.


    Serie A Femminile:

    - Today, Tavagnacco-Juventus 1-5. Of course, facing Italian Champions and leaders of the rankings of Juventus wasn't the ideal re-start of the league for Tavagnacco; and they even managed to go ahead at 20'! :eek: But then Juventus' comeback was ruthless. Kunisawa and Kato played the whole game for Tavagnacco.
     
  5. pierre bezukhov

    pierre bezukhov Member+

    AC Milan
    Japan
    Mar 7, 2018
    Japan
    I watched this game.

    At the moment Huelva only have fifteen fit players. If Yoko is fit enough to play ten minutes then why not start her? Maybe she is on the outer at the club. Who knows? Sometimes the selections are a little perplexing. Because Huelva's other really good player who gave two assists last week - Patricia Mascaró Reifs - was also on the bench.

    These are the two players on your team who can actually hold onto the ball and are able to pass it to another player on a regular basis. Having players that can hold on to the ball might be useful against Athletico. But I kind of get what the coach is going for.

    Huelva has some very fast, powerful players that are kind of skillful, so they might be able to catch them on the break. But the problem with these players is that they are a bit one dimensional. They can't put together more than five team passes, which is kind of a problem.

    But Athletico's pressing is pretty good, so it is hard to keep the ball. But that is why it is important to keep the ball. You tire them out if you keep the ball, which means they are less likely to do it. Anyway, there are just so many different styles of players in Huelva, so at times it is a bit of a mess. But having said that they have been playing better.

    Interestingly Athletico signed a twenty year old from Venezuela by the name of Deyna Castellanos. It was her first game and she looked pretty good, though she did only play for twenty minutes. If anybody remembers she was the player who scored against Little Nadeshiko in the semi-final of the 2014 Under 17 World Cup. That means she was fourteen in that final!

    Oh yeah, Nojima have a new manager. Makoto Kitano who used to manage a second division team in the men's league from Takamatsu. Nojima have also let go most of their coaching staff. This season may be a long one.
     
  6. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    #56 blissett, Jan 13, 2020
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2020
    I remember very well about Deyna Castellanos (the only one to beat recently mentioned Mamiko Matsumoto at that U-17 WWC 2014) and I guess most people do because of this girl's achievements, back then and later.

    At the U-17 WWC in 2014, she ended up being the joined Golden Shoe of the whole competition, along with team-mate Gabriela Garcia. As you correctly mentioned, she was just 14 at the time, to the point that (as well as other very young players, as our Fuka Nagano) she had the chance to also play the subsequent U-17 WWC in 2016.

    At that event, she scored a goal from the center circle in stoppage-time of a group game that ended up being one of the recipients of the FIFA Puskas award's short-list for that season! :eek:

    One year after that, Castellanos was short-listed for the Best FIFA Women's Player Award, a fact that stirred much controversy, since at the time she hadn't even ever played in a professional league, but was still in USA college system.

    At that level, by the way, in Florida Seminoles (a team that in the past sported FWs as Tiffany McCarty and, if you go really back in time, our Mami Yamaguchi), Castellanos was incredibly successfull and managed to win the very competitive US College Championship!

    So I guess she's a player we'll hear about for long, especially now that she landed in a strong European club. :coffee:
     
  7. Manchester Nadeshiko

    Ehime F.C. Ladies
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2017
    U.K.
    Strange but true....
    On Lechus u tube channel Nadeshiko goals 2018 start with an Emi Nakajima goal that is copy of Nadeshiko goals 2019.... (left foot curler)
     
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  8. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
  9. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member+

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
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  10. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member+

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
    Today's result:

    Teikyo Heisei 0-2 Nittaidai (Kono, Okidoi)
    Daitaidai (Imada) 1-2 Waseda (Yamada, Kobayashi)
     
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  11. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member+

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
    Today's big news:

    Tanaka Mina seems to move to Inac.
     
  12. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
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    Wow, this looks like the biggest transfer in Nadeshiko League since the time when INAC built their dream-team for the first time with the likes of Sawa, Ohno and Kinga, by stealing them from Beleza! :eek:

    Of course, Beleza has plently of young stars to replace Tanamina (Momiki, Ueki, Kobayashi, Endo, and so on...),but I guess it was years that they weren't trading a so high-profile player to their main rivals!

    I wonder if Tanaka feels like she has more chance to make the Olympic roster by playing in INAC than in Beleza. :cautious:
     
  13. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    My thoughts exactly. I guess it's possible that she wants to prove that she is the best in the league without Beleza's impressive line-up backing her up.
    Other possibility is that she wants to forge better understanding on the pitch with Iwabuchi (which will increase her chances for OG as well)
     
  14. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member+

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
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  15. Manchester Nadeshiko

    Ehime F.C. Ladies
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2017
    U.K.
    Perhaps we will see a lot of 'shuffling around' now professional league is on the horizon
     
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  16. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    It may very well be would salary cap going to be introduced.
     
  17. pierre bezukhov

    pierre bezukhov Member+

    AC Milan
    Japan
    Mar 7, 2018
    Japan
    I think the move is linked to her desire to play at the olympics. If she can play well with Iwabuchi then maybe she will be chosen for the Olympics. I am not sure how much it will help, but at least she is trying something.

    The thing is she already plays in a team with many different Nadeshiko representatives and it really has not helped her chances lately. Maybe certain people think that she scores so many goals because the players around her at Beleza make her look better. That is pure speculation from me though. I really do not know.

    Either way I think it makes INAC stronger and Beleza weaker.
     
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  18. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member+

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
    Today's result:

    University Championship final:

    Nittaidai (Kono, Okutsu) 2-0 Waseda
    I think difference between them was whether FWs receive the ball in front of the opponent's DFs facing their own soil or do while running toward their opponent's goal through between the DFs.
     
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  19. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    Marginally off-topic here on the Nadeshiko thread, but, through the US boards, I came to know that former Orlando Pride's FW Danica Evans was just signed by Sporting Huelva in Spain:

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    Although the move is quite understandable from the Spanish Club point of view (they need goals! And some target striker to score them), I wonder what it can specifically mean for Yoko Tanaka: is the team going to become a little stronger and is she going to have a meaningful target for her assist? Or the choice of investing on a different international means that our Japanese player is going to become more and more marginal, as @pierre bezukhov somehow feared in one of his latest posts, to the point of eventually leaving the club? :cautious:
     
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  20. pierre bezukhov

    pierre bezukhov Member+

    AC Milan
    Japan
    Mar 7, 2018
    Japan
    #70 pierre bezukhov, Jan 19, 2020
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2020
    I do not know to be honest. Yoko missed a penalty and a really easy chance on goal in one of the games and I think that has weighed against her. I would say it is probably not looking good for her, but who knows.

    I am biased, but she is more than good enough to be in the starting lineup of Huelva. I think she should be in midfield helping to bring the ball forward and helping to maintain possession.

    Another forward is fine if Yoko is moved to the midfield, but I doubt that will happen.

    The Huelva forwards have not been good (Yoko included), but I think the problems are more in midfield and on the wings. Again I do not know how they play against some of the weaker teams, because I can not see them.

    Also another American by the name of Kristina Fisher has joined Huelva from a collegiate team.
     
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  21. frohike

    frohike Member

    Japan
    Aug 6, 2015
    Spain
    Yoko starting on the bench against Tacón. I welcome her decission to come to Europe, but her playing style doesn't suit Huelva's defensive style of play. She would be happier on a team like Depor
     
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  22. pierre bezukhov

    pierre bezukhov Member+

    AC Milan
    Japan
    Mar 7, 2018
    Japan
    She did not play in the end. Could be a quiet second half of the season for her. Though it is hard to know, because the manager Toledo does change it up a bit, though today he only made two substitutions.

    I wish I could find a Spanish language forum for women's football to get an idea of what people think of this league.

    I agree her style of play is not suited to the way Huelva play, but she has been given a lot of chances, though not in her best position/s, so in the end she has to take a bit of the blame.
     
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  23. frohike

    frohike Member

    Japan
    Aug 6, 2015
    Spain
    I'm afraid there is no such thing
     
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  24. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    International update:

    Aussie-W-League:

    - Yesterday, Melbourne City-Newcastle Jets 2-0. Melbourne City keep riding alone at the top of the rankings, but it's the second consecutive week Yukari Kinga is out. I couldn't find any news about her supposed injury so far: I asked on the Aussie-W-League thread on BigSoccer but I am not sure anyone can help me.
    Meanwhile, Kinga-less highlights: https://www.w-league.com.au/match/m...s-women-w-league-18-01-2020/2032891#!/lineups


    Division 1 Féminine:

    - Mild surprise today as OL is stopped on a 0-0 draw by Bordeaux (I only say "mild", because in the end Bordeaux are the recognized "thrid force" of the league this season and a 0-0 away draw isn't anyway the end of the world); meanwhile PSG had a resounding 11-0 win (!) vs OM, but they remain 3 points behind OL in the rankings and 2 goals behind in goal difference. One can't anyway say that the league didn't become a little more interesting. Saki Kumagai played the whole match. No available highlights yet, as far as I know.


    Liga Femenina:

    - Sporting Huelva-CD Tacón 1-3. As it's been already said by @frohike and @pierre bezukhov, Yoko Tanaka didn't see the pitch, despite Huelva having just used two changes; on the other end of the field, Tacón scored with most of their international stars (Thaisa, Jakobsson, Asllani). Huelva was sucked back again in relegation zone: currently third-to-last-placed.

    - Fourth point of the season for Espanyol, as they draw a game by 1-1 in Valencia. Ayaka Noguchi only played the last 10 minutes of the match.

    - Deportivo Abanca-Real Betis 3-1. Maya Yamamoto started and was subbed-out at 62'. Deportivo retain their 4th place.


    Serie A Femminile:

    - Tavagnacco finally win a match! :eek: Let's not get too much excited: it's just an 1-0 home win vs Orobica Bergamo, that was the only team standing behind them in the rankings at just 1 point, so it's not like they achieved a really unexpected or extraordinary result. It's well enough, though, to catch up with Pink Bari, the team that was ahead of them, at 8 point (technically Tavagnacco are still behind by 1 goal on goal difference). Now the battle to avoid relegation can really start: two teams will be relegated in second division and Orobica, being now 7 points behind, will most probably be one of them; now Tavagnacco have to win an head-to-head race with Pink Bari. And guess what's the match waiting for them next week? But of course it's Pink Bari-Tavagnacco :cool: (in Bari): it's the match that can decide a whole season (or leave everything unchanged, in the case of a draw).
    Yesterday, both Kunisawa and Kato played the full game; Kunisawa even missed a PK in 2nd half: let's hope it doesn't lead to a situation similar to Yoko Tanaka's one in Spain :unsure: (but so far it looks like Tavagnacco have great faith in their Japanese players, who are lock-in starters since the moment they arrived in Italy). The occasion of a Tavagnacco's win is so special that it's worth posting highlights of the match:

     
  25. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member+

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
    transfer info:

    Ikejiri Mayu: Korea team - Mynavi
    Kira Chinatsu: Urawa - overseas
    Sakaguchi Mizuho: uncertain
     

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