Hazard Warning Signs - The Chelsea Transfer Thread

The club will be losing a Striker in Giroud, a Winger in Pedro and a young RB in Tariq Lamptey. The club will be meeting during the international break, after which it will be clearer, as to where and when these replacements will come from.

Kalidou Koulibaly is NOT a Chelsea target. Nor is Mario Balotelli.

Lampard has suggested using Reece James in Centre Midfield.

I actually feel really sorry for Danny Drinkwater. His life is a mess. We should have never have bought him and given him a 120k a week.

 

No.10 and Brazilian wonder kid. Attacking midfield player and second striker. 17 years old 18 in January. 6ft 1". Reiner Jesus. Jesus! Always wanted a Chelsea player called Jesus €70m release clause. All the usual teams interested in signing him, Real Madrud, inter, barca and PSG'er.


and look he even has a video on you tube and everything. . .

 

btw - Tariq Lamptey [19] is an excellent RB and his offer may have come from PSG. He is quick, powerful despite being a bit short, he is an excellent crosser of the ball and very good technically.

He is out of contract with Chelsea at the end of this season and PSG have made him an offer and he is reluctant to sign a new contract with Chelsea.

 

Is Sancho, today, world class?

 

He has the potential to be. He is from Camberwell in Sarf London and that is where the best people come from He is rated as a very fine prospect by all the top managers. He is 19. He will be 20 in March. He also has a video on the you tube. Mbappe, Vinicius and Jadon Sancho have all been touted as great players for the future. As a replacement for Pedro, Sancho would be an awesome addition to the Chelsea squad.

Is there anything more substantial or even insightful that you would like to add to your question?

[oh, that is right, you are a basic bitch Ms.Brock with the mentality of a 15 year old high school girl].

 

That term can to some degree mean what you want/need it to, but I'd say yes.

At his current level, he's one of the best wingers/wide attackers in one of the top leagues in the world

 

Where would he rank on this Chelsea squad currently? At the top?

 

Currently?
Very good question.
Now, purely as a replacement for the right wing he would be above anyone at the club, which would be harsh on Willian as he is on top of his game right now.
Alas, as is ever the case with Willian, the key words thee are "right now".he does have a habit of blowing hot and cold and is (now that Jorginho has come in from the cold) the most divisive player currently in the starting 11.
Sancho is consistently good, end of.

Where would he rank in the "squad" on current form/
Well, surprising as it may seem he wouldn't be my pick for most in form player right now, as that title would simply have to go to the young Yank, no ifs ands or buts.

Long term growth for Sancho at the moment has no ceiling, but as is ever the case (including for Pulisic) with young players you simply don't know what they will turn out like in a few months, never mind in a few seasons.

But, again, as is ever the case with young players, you buy them not for what they are now, but what they may become.Sancho isn't going to stay where he is.He's too good.I don't think that can be disputed.
We might as well get in for him.

 

Right now, I think he's ahead of Puli/CHO, and probably at a similar level to Willy although its different because Sancho does not do the kind of running/defensive work the Willy does. But on the ball he's better than anyone we have

 

Chelsea are ready to make a bid for Metz and Senegal striker Habib Diallo [24] in January. He has scored 8 goals in 13 games this season.

 

This is old news. However, I will add that the he looks and plays like an old school brazilian - Kaka mould. He could be phenomenal.

 

No. To truly be world class you have to have consistently shown in for more than a year. He’s certainly on his way there tho.

 

Chelsea have reportedly made contact with the agent of 17-year-old Brazilian prodigy Reiner Jesus, although Real Madrid and Inter Milan are also said to be interested. According to a tweet by respected Italian journalist Nicolò Schira, The Blues have already contacted agents Giuliano Bertolucci and Kia Joorabchian about the availability of Flamengo prospect Jesus.

Flamengo currently leads the way in the Brazilian top flight and are on course to win their first title in more than a decade. With just six games remaining Jesus will continue to play an important role but is then likely to be offered out to some of Europe’s biggest clubs in January.

 

Love the debate - it's really hard to say. Would be a great player to have.

I think a lot of Willian's work goes unnoticed. But he blows hot and cold - not just due to his advanced age, either. He's always been this way.

 

Another Brazilian wonder kid, what about Nathan and Kenedy and piazon?

The thing with Brazilian wonder kids is. . . IF they come good, you're laughing. Chelsea have had Brazilians in the team, and some pretty good ones, but a wonder kid has thus far eluded us. We're due a Brazilian wonder kid

Flamengo almost certainly looking to secure more than double his £13.5 million market value.

 

It's been getting near constant praise since he started.

The debate has always been more around the fact that he doesn't contribute nearly enough as one might want from one of our 3 attackers. Some people value his work rate more than that. I am part of the faction that doesn't.

This season, I genuinely do appreciate him more thanks to the fact that we're getting goals from a few different sources not named Eden Hazard. Willian's offensive deficiencies aren't nearly so badly highlighted as they used to be. The irony here is I hate that I just called someone as talented as he offensively deficient. He can be so ********ing good, he just doesn't have it in him to do it for any kind of extended period. Like you said, the guy blows hot and cold and that's just how it be.

I recall being furious when he put in world beater performances against Barca two seasons ago. like, where did THAT come from ???? i want more of THAT willy

 

Willian is appreciated -- #11 on this week's power rankings

https://www.sportbible.com/football...p-50-in-form-players-have-been-named-20191111

 

This is a semantic point, but if the question is, today, is X player world-class, I don't think they need to have shown it for a year or more. To be reasonable, I'd say they definitely would need to show it for more than one game, otherwise all kinds of bums with one good game to their name would be able to claim world-class status at some point

So somewhere between one game and one year's worth of games are needed to decide if a player is presently "world-class". Where is that line exactly? YMMV

For me, he's played at a high enough level, for long enough, to say that I am confident that its not just a good run of form, but an indication of his true quality as a player. But if anyone has come up with a way to quantify this, I certainly don't know about it.

In the end, I'm betting you and I (and most others here) have very little disagreement about Sancho as a player beyond semantics

 

Willy always runs his ass off and puts in solid work everywhere. I agree that this can be underrated at times but for the most part he gets due credit for it, as he should. He's also a great teammate and by all appearances, a solid citizen.

When he's also clicking offensively, he's a great player (see: last 2 months)

When he's not, he'd still be a real useful wingback but frustrates when he's taking up one of 3 attacking spots.

Either way, much as his current form makes him loveable, in 2 years (at most) he'll need to be replaced as a starter. I hope he stays here, fades into a sub/reserve role as he ages, retires in Blue, and is remembered as a club hero for a long time to come. Would be no more than he's earned

 

I wanted to see him play wingback so badly under Conte. That would've been an interesting experiment.

 

Me too! That system made Victor f*ckin Moses look like a star!

 

Granted, he really did play great for the 2 months no one knew how to play against that system. Then everyone realized how easy it was to nullify it.

 

I agree with everything you’re saying but I do still strongly feel that it needs to be done for more than a year. It has to go beyond just form. They can be having a great year and not be a world class player. Look at at Belotti. Had one great year. Then nothing the last two and decent so far this year. He isn’t a world class player whether he had a great year or not. World Class requires more (at least to me). I’d also like to add that I’d limit the number of WC players per position. Otherwise it loses its meaning. Not every position would meet the number either. Like pure 10s it’s just a dying breed.

Not to take this to a different sport but it reminds me of the superstar debate. Not every team has one. Unless you ask the media by their count anyone who all star’d is practically one.

I know it’s all semantics and personal opinion but that’s where I stand on it.

 

Funny the is Sancho world class debate takes place the week his Dortmund coach Favre sat him :
“He was not injured, he trained yesterday. I had to go on what I was seeing and, to be honest, it was not good enough,” the Dortmund manager said.

I have not watched him enough to have a firm opinion, but if we are going to spend the money it would take, eff it, go all out for Mbappe or don't bother, we are good on wings for 18-30 months if our board does its bit, better deals out there, perhaps. Rather have a pure striker.

 

Did I mention Reiner Jesus (Brazilian No.10 in the Kaka mould)? Strong rumours coming out of the bridge about signing this lad.

Real Madrid are considering a world record offer of £340m for Kylian Mbappe. £340m. Do we want to get involved in that? That is a lot of money. Not our money. But it could create disruption in the squad if we paid something like that for a player. Mbappe is a great player though. I really don't know tbh.


the transfer market is just a weird game of poker at times.