Unpopular USMNT or US Soccer Opinions

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by GiallorossiYank, Feb 9, 2017.

  1. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    MLS MVP Almiron's impact (or lack thereof) for a mid-table EPL team shows that there's a wide gap between the middle of the major leagues and MLS.

    Also, maybe Yedlin isn't such a shitty player as they've seemed to play poorly in his absence.
     
  2. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
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  3. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yedlin did not play well yesterday.
     
  4. btlove

    btlove Member

    United States
    Sep 29, 2017
    Austin Texas
    From where I’m sitting he completed nearly 80% of his passes, had 3 dispossession, 2 aerials won, got a 7.2 WS rating, and helped hold MANU’s offense to 0 goals. Sorry your narrative doesn’t fit, better luck next time

    Oh and as @DHC1 pointed out, this is all after a major injury
     
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  5. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I actually watched the match and it was a meh performance in a match featuring two poor teams and a bunch of meh performances. Holding an injury ravaged United goalless is hardly anything to brag about these days.

    And citing to whoscored ratings...will gullible posters on this site ever learn???
     
  6. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    I thought Yedlin looked adequate. Only watched the first half, though. The boredom of that match was just too much.
     
  7. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    I watched it as well and Yedlin looked like an above average but not elite EPL player contending against a team with a E735 market value and went toe-to-toe with James and Fred and held his own.

    What's frustrating is that people can't differentiate between major and minor league teams. If these are two "poor teams", then MLS/B2/Championship are shit because each of these two teams would run circles around any team in those minor leagues.

    It's not even close.
     
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  8. btlove

    btlove Member

    United States
    Sep 29, 2017
    Austin Texas
    I watched the match. I cited actual statistics, and a match rating, as my argument. Your argument is “I watched and thought meh” when will posters on this site learn their biased eyes can fool them? I cited WS as one piece of evidence among others, you conveniently didn’t mention the others. You can call MANU “meh” but they are better than anything the USMNT has played recently. And the consensus among most that watched, was that he performed well.

    You saying “meh” doesn’t negate any of that.
     
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  9. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A guy who thinks Yedlin looks like an above average EPL player probably isn't best positioned to criticize others about their views on the differences between the MLS/B2/Championship...
     
  10. btlove

    btlove Member

    United States
    Sep 29, 2017
    Austin Texas
    It’s hilarious honestly, “holding united goalless is nothing to brag about” when was the last time we faced a team that is as good as united put out? How many of our players face that competition in their leagues on a regular basis? Bizarre.
     
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  11. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nothing convenient about it. The rest of your "evidence", such as it was, just wasn't worth a response.
     
  12. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Reading is good. I said that there's a difference between the major and minors and that MLS/B2/Championship are roughly equivalent.

    But go on hating on Yedlin - it feels like Excellency and Weston.
     
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  13. btlove

    btlove Member

    United States
    Sep 29, 2017
    Austin Texas
    Yeah, what I’m getting here is that you have no actual reason to think Yedlin had a bad game. You have nothing to show, nothing to prove it with besides “I watched and meh” well if that’s case I feel even more confident than before that he had a good match.
     
  14. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The point stands, if you think Yedlin looks like an above average PL footballer, you're in no position to criticize anyone else on this site for having a stupid opinion or not understanding what they're talking about.
     
  15. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Looking adequate against MU and James, Fred and Rashford is pretty f***ing good.

    Comparatively, Cannon (whom I like and am hoping transfers this window so he can, you know compete against better players) went up against Nemeth, Salloi and Hernandez this weekend.

    How can people not acknowledge that there's just a bit of difference there. But I guess that Man U is actually a "poor team".
     
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  16. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    well, I am fully put in my place. Thanks!
     
  17. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I said he had a meh game, not a bad one. There's a difference. And to be clear, I have a very solid basis for that opinion, my observations from watching the match.
     
  18. btlove

    btlove Member

    United States
    Sep 29, 2017
    Austin Texas
    Okay, fair enough, you are certainly in the right place for such an opinion, since seemingly most people and soccer publications disagree with you
     
  19. btlove

    btlove Member

    United States
    Sep 29, 2017
    Austin Texas
    If you think Yedlin had a meh game you are in no position to criticize anyone else on this site for having a stupid opinion or not understanding what they’re talking about.

    I can do that too. :)

    Also fun fact @DHC1 actually said he looked like an above average EPL player IN THAT GAME. hope that helps
     
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  20. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Reading is good.
     
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  21. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They do??? The only rave reviews I've seen have come from rabid NUFC fans who are overreacting to a win and USMNT fanboys.
     
  22. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That doesn't make his opinion any less silly.
     
  23. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    @superdave - may I please borrow a chicken?
     
  24. btlove

    btlove Member

    United States
    Sep 29, 2017
    Austin Texas
    Whoscored -7.2
    The independent- 7
    Squawka -8
    Mirror -7

    So many Newcastle/USMNT fans in the media
     
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  25. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They beat Man U, of course journos who didn't (or barely) watched the game are going to throw out a bunch of 7 and 8 ratings. I even saw a 9 somewhere for Longstaff, who admittedly had a nice goal, but was quite pedestrian for the rest of the match.
     

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