I see Fk goals scored by Maradona in friendlies, U20 matches,even own goals being given consideration IF this is the case than CR has 61 FKs in his career 90% scored between 2008-2012 He'd have many more if he hadn't become such an abject FK taker since 2014 Top 2 all time are sealed Zico Juninho Next tier Mihajlovic Beckham Ronaldinho Cristiano Ronaldo Del Piero Hagi Maradona Lionel Messi Roberto Baggio Platini Were all similar(cant split between them) Others as didi deserve credit for being pioneers of the knuckleball techique perfected later by Juninho and CR
https://www.goal.com/en-in/news/foo...ditions-to-2019-20/1nt8llqwfqkje1qe1qbwdct06a Are these going to be implemented for real?
The FK one would be key here. Goalkeeper's will save more free kicks I'm sure as their vision will not be obstructed
Taking indirect free kicks and friendlies into account..? That changes things dramatically. Messi has 52 free kicks. Zico has over 100 as some sources claim
Nobody is telling Maradona the goals in friendly matches with Argentina U-20, (He scored them in the 1979 World Youth Championship in Japan) and I'm just putting information on how his free throws are, if you pay attention you will notice that I always separate and sign the free kick goals, indirect free kicks and Olympic goals, so that if someone makes a ranking is as impartial as possible: If only counts the goals of direct free kick that then tells Maradona 61, if it also counts indirect free kick then 64 and if it counts the Olympic goals 65, I try to clarify the figures with all the players that can come to contribute the information and so who makes a list do it as impartial as possible.
As for the own goal that you say is added, it is enough to see that the goal is clearly yours and that the referee erroneously designated him as an own goal. In that case it would be necessary to take him free-throw goals and mark them as autogoals to several players including Cr7, Messi, or Zico.
An Example of a goal that would have to be discounted to Cr7 if we did not discount the Goal to Maradona vs AC Milan.
This is the goal of Maradona that was mistakenly given as an own goal but as you can see is his goal, but hit the barrier (Minute 1:40) Another example of Cr7 that is his goal but he detoured on the barrier An example of Messi vs. Athletic De Bilbao in 2014-15 An example of Zico vs. Bolivia (First goal of the match)
About Juninho Pernambucano Sport Club Do Recife: FK= 2 C.R.Vasco da Gama: FK= 14 IFK= 6 Lyon: FK= 42 IFK=1. Al-Gharafa S.C: FK=9. Brasil NT: FK=3. Total Carrer: FK=70 IFK=7. Symbology: FK= Free Kick IFK=Indirect Free Kick. Note: The indirect free kick goal Vs Lucerne is in an unofficial friendly of selections and for that reason I do not tell him as I had already mentioned with Zico and a goal in a similar match. I have heard that he scored "44" free kick goals with Lyon but I have only found "43" (42 plus one indirect) and in the video that almost all of them are based and in which they give me those if they see it in detail they come out 43 with Lyon, which clarifies a "myth" more or as commented if someone finds that other goal opened that add one more. In this other video they also leave 43 Lyon goals
About Ronaldinho Gremio: FK=12 IFK=1 PSG: FK=4. Barelona: FK=19. IFK=1 AC Milan: FK=3. Flamengo: FK=4. OG=1 Atlético Mineiro: FK= 7. Querétaro FC: FK=2. Brazil Olympic: FK=4. Brazil NT: FK=8. Total Carrer: FK= 63. IFK=2. OG=1. Note: With the Brazilian Olympic Team he scored a goal in a friendly match Vs Chile which I do not include in this list because with the lower selections I only consider the official competitions.
About David Beckham Prest North End: FK=1. Manchester United: FK=27. Real Madrid: FK=10. IFK=2. AC Milán: FK=1. LA Galaxy: FK=8. OG=1. England NT: FK=7. Total Carrer: FK=54. IFK=2. OG=1. Note: The Goal with the Preston North End is in the third division of England, but I consider it because this goal is in official competition and also a footballer is already a professional at this level, as it is popular knowledge that Alessandro Del Piero scored goals with Juventus in second division and which are counted within 290 with this club.
@Gregoriak You have the details about Víctor Legrotaglie, I read in some parts that he scored 65 or 66 free kick goals plus 11 or 12 olympic goals, since he only played in Argentina I would love it if you can make a breakdown similar to the one you did with Maradona (Goals per year, Goals for each team for which he played, etc) in order to be certain of the goals of this man. Thank you in advance and I hope you continue making your valuable contributions that are the product of a great job of yours, congratulations.
Thanks a lot! I have found the following information regarding Victor Legrotaglie: 1967 10 games 0 goals 1970 20 games 2 goals 1 Freekick 1 open play 1971 14 games 4 goals 2 Freekicks 2 penalties 1972 10 games 2 goals 1 freekick 1 open play 1973 12 games 1 goal 1 freekick
Not to try and be a 'know it all' (I definitely don't know close to it all even after so many years on Big Soccer), but just because you and others might like to know: I think Didi was a pioneer of the 'falling leaf' free-kick, which is more a flighted delivery which dips after clearing the wall, perhaps with some curl on it too (so more a Beckham-esque technique). I think this is an example from him at 0:20 vs Mexico in the 1954 World Cup: That 'knuckleball' technique became more prevalent and successful with modern balls that suited it I think. Del Piero and Pirlo for example (previously excelling with curled free-kicks) even started to score a few with that approach I think too didn't they? Juninho Pernambucano would often have been using more a straight leg kind of kick before the balls had changed much though probably anyway wouldn't he (with success, even if not so much ball movement in the air)? Some other Brazilians did in the past, but often with a swerve effect in one distinct direction, which would be the opposite direction to free-kicks curled with the instep, I'd say (Nelinho for example, but also even Pele and Garrincha at times). So yeah, I think any dipping of the ball achieved using knuckleball technique is different to the 'falling leaf' effect really, and the shots themselves were much different.
I do agree with this. Calhanoglu is probably the only footballer using falling leaf in modern days and he does it exquisitely
Boom! Free kick chat and no mention of Naka! Pfft! Champions League! Title winning free kicks! Not only did he score fantastic free kicks, he also did it when the pressure was on.
He was so deadly from free kicks I once saw him line up to take one in the SPL about 25 yrds out, right of centre. Not sure who it was against now, might have been Hearts, and they didn't put a wall up. They figured their keeper had a better chance without the wall. Worked that day as he missed. Probably spooked him a bit! Gives you an idea of just how deadly he was with that left foot though.
Michel Platini : At that stage I found 42 certain free-kicks but about 165 goals remain unknown (mostly scored in Nancy but also in Saint-Etienne and in Coppa Italia with Juve) - ie slightly less than half of the number of goals Platini scored in his carreer. Here's the detail : 11 for France (definitive number) 14 in Serie A (definitive number) 1 in Coppa Italia (but there could be more) 13 for Saint Etienne (there could be a few more) 3 for AS Nancy (there are definitely more) There are the numbers, but the quality of the GK facing the free-kick taker should also matter... And there Platini stands quite high : he beat 2 all-time greats (Zoff x2, Shilton) and a bunch of others that are often seen as belonging to the 100 greatest GK of all-time list : van Breukelen, Ivo Viktor, Arconada, Curkovic (x2).
Juninho Pernambucano: I have found the goal that Lyon gives as a free kick and that added to the others is number 44 with Lyon. It was in the game vs Ajaccio of 10/16/2005, and I didn't find videos of the game summary, but on the official website of the lyon it is one of these "44" and the reason why it doesn't appear in the previous videos is because It is an indirect free kick and drives the ball a little before shooting. I looked for a rule when it is considered an indirect free kick goal (If the shooter is only allowed one hit, if the ball has to be stopped, or if it counts if the shot is after two touches, etc.), but I only found when to mark an improper free kick and more referee stuff. If someone can explain it to know if this goal counts as an indirect free kick or only as a distant shot.