Top Free Kick Takers of All-Time

Discussion in 'Players & Legends' started by Lucas..., Jan 9, 2013.

  1. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I see Fk goals scored by Maradona in friendlies, U20 matches,even own goals being given consideration

    IF this is the case than CR has 61 FKs in his career
    90% scored between 2008-2012

    He'd have many more if he hadn't become such an abject FK taker since 2014

    Top 2 all time are sealed
    Zico
    Juninho

    Next tier
    Mihajlovic
    Beckham
    Ronaldinho
    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Del Piero
    Hagi
    Maradona
    Lionel Messi
    Roberto Baggio
    Platini
    Were all similar(cant split between them)

    Others as didi deserve credit for being pioneers of the knuckleball techique perfected later by Juninho and CR
     
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  2. Bavarian14

    Bavarian14 Member

    Bayern München
    Jun 1, 2017
  3. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  4. Bavarian14

    Bavarian14 Member

    Bayern München
    Jun 1, 2017
    The FK one would be key here. Goalkeeper's will save more free kicks I'm sure as their vision will not be obstructed
     
  5. Bavarian14

    Bavarian14 Member

    Bayern München
    Jun 1, 2017
    Taking indirect free kicks and friendlies into account..?

    That changes things dramatically. Messi has 52 free kicks. Zico has over 100 as some sources claim
     
  6. MPALACIOS10

    MPALACIOS10 Member

    Barcelona
    Argentina
    Apr 21, 2019
    Nobody is telling Maradona the goals in friendly matches with Argentina U-20, (He scored them in the 1979 World Youth Championship in Japan) and I'm just putting information on how his free throws are, if you pay attention you will notice that I always separate and sign the free kick goals, indirect free kicks and Olympic goals, so that if someone makes a ranking is as impartial as possible:
    If only counts the goals of direct free kick that then tells Maradona 61, if it also counts indirect free kick then 64 and if it counts the Olympic goals 65, I try to clarify the figures with all the players that can come to contribute the information and so who makes a list do it as impartial as possible.
     
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  7. MPALACIOS10

    MPALACIOS10 Member

    Barcelona
    Argentina
    Apr 21, 2019
    As for the own goal that you say is added, it is enough to see that the goal is clearly yours and that the referee erroneously designated him as an own goal.
    In that case it would be necessary to take him free-throw goals and mark them as autogoals to several players including Cr7, Messi, or Zico.
     
  8. MPALACIOS10

    MPALACIOS10 Member

    Barcelona
    Argentina
    Apr 21, 2019

    An Example of a goal that would have to be discounted to Cr7 if we did not discount the Goal to Maradona vs AC Milan.
     
  9. MPALACIOS10

    MPALACIOS10 Member

    Barcelona
    Argentina
    Apr 21, 2019
    This is the goal of Maradona that was mistakenly given as an own goal but as you can see is his goal, but hit the barrier (Minute 1:40)


    Another example of Cr7 that is his goal but he detoured on the barrier


    An example of Messi vs. Athletic De Bilbao in 2014-15


    An example of Zico vs. Bolivia (First goal of the match)
     
  10. MPALACIOS10

    MPALACIOS10 Member

    Barcelona
    Argentina
    Apr 21, 2019
    About Juninho Pernambucano
    Sport Club Do Recife: FK= 2
    C.R.Vasco da Gama: FK= 14 IFK= 6
    Lyon: FK= 42 IFK=1.
    Al-Gharafa S.C: FK=9.
    Brasil NT: FK=3.
    Total Carrer: FK=70 IFK=7.
    Symbology:
    FK= Free Kick
    IFK=Indirect Free Kick.
    Note: The indirect free kick goal Vs Lucerne is in an unofficial friendly of selections and for that reason I do not tell him as I had already mentioned with Zico and a goal in a similar match.
    I have heard that he scored "44" free kick goals with Lyon but I have only found "43" (42 plus one indirect) and in the video that almost all of them are based and in which they give me those if they see it in detail they come out 43 with Lyon, which clarifies a "myth" more or as commented if someone finds that other goal opened that add one more.


    In this other video they also leave 43 Lyon goals
     
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  11. Bavarian14

    Bavarian14 Member

    Bayern München
    Jun 1, 2017
    It's not an own goal if the shot was originally on target. Which seems to be the case with Maradona
     
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  12. MPALACIOS10

    MPALACIOS10 Member

    Barcelona
    Argentina
    Apr 21, 2019
    About Ronaldinho
    Gremio: FK=12 IFK=1
    PSG: FK=4.
    Barelona: FK=19. IFK=1
    AC Milan: FK=3.
    Flamengo: FK=4. OG=1
    Atlético Mineiro: FK= 7.
    Querétaro FC: FK=2.
    Brazil Olympic: FK=4.
    Brazil NT: FK=8.
    Total Carrer: FK= 63. IFK=2. OG=1.

    Note: With the Brazilian Olympic Team he scored a goal in a friendly match Vs Chile which I do not include in this list because with the lower selections I only consider the official competitions.
     
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  13. MPALACIOS10

    MPALACIOS10 Member

    Barcelona
    Argentina
    Apr 21, 2019
    About David Beckham
    Prest North End: FK=1.
    Manchester United: FK=27.
    Real Madrid: FK=10. IFK=2.
    AC Milán: FK=1.
    LA Galaxy: FK=8. OG=1.
    England NT: FK=7.
    Total Carrer: FK=54. IFK=2. OG=1.

    Note: The Goal with the Preston North End is in the third division of England, but I consider it because this goal is in official competition and also a footballer is already a professional at this level, as it is popular knowledge that Alessandro Del Piero scored goals with Juventus in second division and which are counted within 290 with this club.
     
  14. MPALACIOS10

    MPALACIOS10 Member

    Barcelona
    Argentina
    Apr 21, 2019
    @Gregoriak
    You have the details about Víctor Legrotaglie, I read in some parts that he scored 65 or 66 free kick goals plus 11 or 12 olympic goals, since he only played in Argentina I would love it if you can make a breakdown similar to the one you did with Maradona (Goals per year, Goals for each team for which he played, etc) in order to be certain of the goals of this man.
    Thank you in advance and I hope you continue making your valuable contributions that are the product of a great job of yours, congratulations.
     
  15. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Thanks a lot!

    I have found the following information regarding Victor Legrotaglie:

    1967
    10 games
    0 goals

    1970
    20 games
    2 goals
    1 Freekick
    1 open play

    1971
    14 games
    4 goals
    2 Freekicks
    2 penalties

    1972
    10 games
    2 goals
    1 freekick
    1 open play

    1973
    12 games
    1 goal
    1 freekick
     
  16. Bavarian14

    Bavarian14 Member

    Bayern München
    Jun 1, 2017
    Pirlo deserves a place in Tier 2
     
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  17. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Not to try and be a 'know it all' (I definitely don't know close to it all even after so many years on Big Soccer), but just because you and others might like to know:

    I think Didi was a pioneer of the 'falling leaf' free-kick, which is more a flighted delivery which dips after clearing the wall, perhaps with some curl on it too (so more a Beckham-esque technique). I think this is an example from him at 0:20 vs Mexico in the 1954 World Cup:


    That 'knuckleball' technique became more prevalent and successful with modern balls that suited it I think. Del Piero and Pirlo for example (previously excelling with curled free-kicks) even started to score a few with that approach I think too didn't they? Juninho Pernambucano would often have been using more a straight leg kind of kick before the balls had changed much though probably anyway wouldn't he (with success, even if not so much ball movement in the air)? Some other Brazilians did in the past, but often with a swerve effect in one distinct direction, which would be the opposite direction to free-kicks curled with the instep, I'd say (Nelinho for example, but also even Pele and Garrincha at times).

    So yeah, I think any dipping of the ball achieved using knuckleball technique is different to the 'falling leaf' effect really, and the shots themselves were much different.
     
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  18. Bavarian14

    Bavarian14 Member

    Bayern München
    Jun 1, 2017
    I do agree with this.
    Calhanoglu is probably the only footballer using falling leaf in modern days and he does it exquisitely
     
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  19. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
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    Real Madrid
  20. frasermc

    frasermc Take your flunky and dangle

    Celtic
    Scotland
    Jul 28, 2006
    Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
  21. frasermc

    frasermc Take your flunky and dangle

    Celtic
    Scotland
    Jul 28, 2006
    Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    Boom!

    Free kick chat and no mention of Naka! Pfft!

    Champions League! Title winning free kicks! Not only did he score fantastic free kicks, he also did it when the pressure was on.
     
  22. frasermc

    frasermc Take your flunky and dangle

    Celtic
    Scotland
    Jul 28, 2006
    Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland



    He was so deadly from free kicks I once saw him line up to take one in the SPL about 25 yrds out, right of centre. Not sure who it was against now, might have been Hearts, and they didn't put a wall up. They figured their keeper had a better chance without the wall. Worked that day as he missed. Probably spooked him a bit!

    Gives you an idea of just how deadly he was with that left foot though.
     
  23. babaorum

    babaorum Member+

    Aug 20, 2005
    Marseille
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    #273 babaorum, Jul 25, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2019
    Michel Platini :

    At that stage I found 42 certain free-kicks but about 165 goals remain unknown (mostly scored in Nancy but also in Saint-Etienne and in Coppa Italia with Juve) - ie slightly less than half of the number of goals Platini scored in his carreer.

    Here's the detail :
    11 for France (definitive number)
    14 in Serie A (definitive number)
    1 in Coppa Italia (but there could be more)
    13 for Saint Etienne (there could be a few more)
    3 for AS Nancy (there are definitely more)

    There are the numbers, but the quality of the GK facing the free-kick taker should also matter... And there Platini stands quite high : he beat 2 all-time greats (Zoff x2, Shilton) and a bunch of others that are often seen as belonging to the 100 greatest GK of all-time list : van Breukelen, Ivo Viktor, Arconada, Curkovic (x2).
     
  24. MPALACIOS10

    MPALACIOS10 Member

    Barcelona
    Argentina
    Apr 21, 2019
    Juninho Pernambucano:

    I have found the goal that Lyon gives as a free kick and that added to the others is number 44 with Lyon.
    It was in the game vs Ajaccio of 10/16/2005, and I didn't find videos of the game summary, but on the official website of the lyon it is one of these "44" and the reason why it doesn't appear in the previous videos is because It is an indirect free kick and drives the ball a little before shooting.
    I looked for a rule when it is considered an indirect free kick goal (If the shooter is only allowed one hit, if the ball has to be stopped, or if it counts if the shot is after two touches, etc.), but I only found when to mark an improper free kick and more referee stuff.
    If someone can explain it to know if this goal counts as an indirect free kick or only as a distant shot.

     
  25. MPALACIOS10

    MPALACIOS10 Member

    Barcelona
    Argentina
    Apr 21, 2019
    The goal is in the minute 6:28

     

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